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Re: Re: Liverpool set to sell Naming Rights to new Stadium

[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=38421.msg1444357#msg1444357 date=1324030384]
I don't think we'd sell out 75k every game, we often don't sell out 45k.
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Then club are clearly thinking about the season ticket waiting list.. they don't care if the stadium does not completely sell out every game..

More seasons tickets sold more guarenteed revenue, anything extra is a bonus... The amount of lost revenue over the years because of the stadium nonsense has been our achillies heel. If they really wanted too, for the lower profile games you could sell the extra cheapo seats cheap as chips @ £20 a piece if you want to fill the ground..
 
Re: Re: Liverpool set to sell Naming Rights to new Stadium

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[quote author=Mystic link=topic=38421.msg1444345#msg1444345 date=1324029585]
Cheap seats is a must, it makes sense too, the club will make more money filling out 75k with a load of seats at £20 than filling out 55k with all seats at £45.
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Erm.......

No they wont.

75000x20=150000

55000x45=247500
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He said a load, not necessarily all
[/quote][quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=38421.msg1444357#msg1444357 date=1324030384]
I don't think we'd sell out 75k every game, we often don't sell out 45k.
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Exactly these. We won't sell out a 55k stadium for all games, because as said, we don't sell out all games at 40k, and I don't want all tickets to cost £20, but the 15k or so on top should.

It's not just ticket revenue either, more people in the ground equals more business at the club shop, more people buying burgers etc.
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Yeah. Even Roy keane mentioned the 76.000 eating prawn sandwhiches at old Toilet!!
 
Re: Re: Liverpool set to sell Naming Rights to new Stadium

[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=38421.msg1444357#msg1444357 date=1324030384]
I don't think we'd sell out 75k every game, we often don't sell out 45k.
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i'm not sure exactly what we can or can't fill, but i don't really think the above is true: tickets are like fucking gold dust at the moment. a couple of mates up north who'd go to any game they can have been unable to get a single ticket this season.

i think a lot of people seriously underestimate the demand, and that's before factoring in season ticket waiting list, increased demand if we ever actually start challenging, and the people like me who don't even bother with the official sales process because it doesn't seem worth my time.
 
A lot of the money will be subsidized by corporate boxes that have contracts where an amazing amount of money is paid for every game and then huge catering contracts. Ticket prices depend how close you are. But a lot of cheap seats would be a great idea, should make the atmo better.
 
Taken from another site

(from a source on a lfc website that has been bang on to date on stadium) - New stadium, 75k capacity, naming rights are agreed which was holding it up - Boeing seem to be the one.
 
[quote author=Irish_Red link=topic=47940.msg1444453#msg1444453 date=1324042455]
Taken from another site

(from a source on a lfc website that has been bang on to date on stadium) - New stadium, 75k capacity, naming rights are agreed which was holding it up - Boeing seem to be the one.
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It's good to see that plans to build the stadium are finally taking off.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47940.msg1444454#msg1444454 date=1324042619]
the boeing stadium'


could be worse, I guess. :-\
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Indeed it could be the spider-neil stadium, emphasis of the lower case.

Actually I take it back, that would be awesome haha.
 
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=47940.msg1444451#msg1444451 date=1324042359]
A lot of the money will be subsidized by corporate boxes that have contracts where an amazing amount of money is paid for every game and then huge catering contracts. Ticket prices depend how close you are. But a lot of cheap seats would be a great idea, should make the atmo better.
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another thing i'd say is that i've never understood the almost total absence of a pricing strategy for tickets at anfield.

there should be cheap seats available, and plenty of them. but there should also be expensive seats, for people with money or who rarely get a chance of a ticket (such as me) and who are happy to pay big once or twice a year. why not have a few thousand premium seats for £80-100? i think the demand would be there.

also, most people without a season ticket will struggle to EVER get to a utd or everton game. they'd be willing to pay through the nose for the privelege of doing it just once, imo. i'd therefore investigate the possibility of having, say, 20k seats set aside for those games for such willing customers priced at perhaps £150 each.

etc
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47940.msg1444455#msg1444455 date=1324042632]
[quote author=Irish_Red link=topic=47940.msg1444453#msg1444453 date=1324042455]
Taken from another site

(from a source on a lfc website that has been bang on to date on stadium) - New stadium, 75k capacity, naming rights are agreed which was holding it up - Boeing seem to be the one.
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It's good to see that plans to build the stadium are finally taking off.
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*insert pun that involves, deparature, arrival, landing, run way, (delete as applicable)*
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444461#msg1444461 date=1324042816]
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=47940.msg1444451#msg1444451 date=1324042359]
A lot of the money will be subsidized by corporate boxes that have contracts where an amazing amount of money is paid for every game and then huge catering contracts. Ticket prices depend how close you are. But a lot of cheap seats would be a great idea, should make the atmo better.
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another thing i'd say is that i've never understood the almost total absence of a pricing strategy for tickets at anfield.

there should be cheap seats available, and plenty of them. but there should also be expensive seats, for people with money or who rarely get a chance of a ticket (such as me) and who are happy to pay big once or twice a year. why not have a few thousand premium seats for £80-100? i think the demand would be there.

also, most people without a season ticket will struggle to EVER get to a utd or everton game. they'd be willing to pay through the nose for the privelege of doing it just once, imo. i'd therefore investigate the possibility of having, say, 20k seats set aside for those games for such willing customers priced at perhaps £150 each.

etc
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Fucking Hell peter, that posts sums up exactly whats wrong with football.....

I got an Idea, how about if you go the match every week on the trot you can show your match ticket stubs and get 1st choice for cup matches?

Or shall we just let all the rich fuckers turn up and take any seat they want
 
This will give us a much needed lift.

Seriously though, this would be brilliant news. 75K! Delighted. The bigger the better, IMO.
 
It's a brave move when attendances are generally falling around football.

And increased TV coverage is not going to make it easier to get people to go, particularly at current ticket prices.
 
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47940.msg1444471#msg1444471 date=1324043247]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444461#msg1444461 date=1324042816]
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=47940.msg1444451#msg1444451 date=1324042359]
A lot of the money will be subsidized by corporate boxes that have contracts where an amazing amount of money is paid for every game and then huge catering contracts. Ticket prices depend how close you are. But a lot of cheap seats would be a great idea, should make the atmo better.
[/quote]

another thing i'd say is that i've never understood the almost total absence of a pricing strategy for tickets at anfield.

there should be cheap seats available, and plenty of them. but there should also be expensive seats, for people with money or who rarely get a chance of a ticket (such as me) and who are happy to pay big once or twice a year. why not have a few thousand premium seats for £80-100? i think the demand would be there.

also, most people without a season ticket will struggle to EVER get to a utd or everton game. they'd be willing to pay through the nose for the privelege of doing it just once, imo. i'd therefore investigate the possibility of having, say, 20k seats set aside for those games for such willing customers priced at perhaps £150 each.

etc
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Fucking Hell peter, that posts sums up exactly whats wrong with football.....

I got an Idea, how about if you go the match every week on the trot you can show your match ticket stubs and get 1st choice for cup matches?

Or shall we just let all the rich fuckers turn up and take any seat they want
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it is to some extent what's wrong with football, yep.

but i don't think you're really being fair. i said there should be plenty of cheaper seats, to recognise the good of getting in younger and poorer fans. but, at the same time - and to compensate for lost revenue - i see no harm AT ALL in catering for people who are happy to pay more but who just can't get a fucking ticket.

i mean what exactly is 'fair' about the same guys going to the big games, year in, year out, and getting the tickets well below what they'd actually be prepared to pay for them, while tens of thousnds of others NEVER get to go to certain matches even once despite being prepared, imo, to pay big big money?

sorry, i guess you won't agree mate, but i'm absolutely convinced that that's a reasonable pricing strategy.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=47940.msg1444478#msg1444478 date=1324043416]
It's a brave move when attendances are generally falling around football.

And increased TV coverage is not going to make it easier to get people to go, particularly at current ticket prices.
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Didn't they do a kids special?

Maybe they are going to have a kids section again, serve your apprenticeship in the Boys pen, and move on to the Kop when you grow up 😉

75k seating we can do Dads and kids too, we need the next generation to get blooded and start coming ......

Grass roots and all that
 
Peter isn't that what the executive boxes and the Matchday meals days are for?

I have no problem with that at all .....

If 6 rich fellers want to hire a box to see us playing United and get meals and drinks served while doing it, and pay premium prices, good luck to them, and all I can say is Jammy Bastards 😀
 
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=47940.msg1444459#msg1444459 date=1324042758]
*runs out to buy 747 to support the sponsors*
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Haha
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444484#msg1444484 date=1324043592]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47940.msg1444471#msg1444471 date=1324043247]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444461#msg1444461 date=1324042816]
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=47940.msg1444451#msg1444451 date=1324042359]
A lot of the money will be subsidized by corporate boxes that have contracts where an amazing amount of money is paid for every game and then huge catering contracts. Ticket prices depend how close you are. But a lot of cheap seats would be a great idea, should make the atmo better.
[/quote]

another thing i'd say is that i've never understood the almost total absence of a pricing strategy for tickets at anfield.

there should be cheap seats available, and plenty of them. but there should also be expensive seats, for people with money or who rarely get a chance of a ticket (such as me) and who are happy to pay big once or twice a year. why not have a few thousand premium seats for £80-100? i think the demand would be there.

also, most people without a season ticket will struggle to EVER get to a utd or everton game. they'd be willing to pay through the nose for the privelege of doing it just once, imo. i'd therefore investigate the possibility of having, say, 20k seats set aside for those games for such willing customers priced at perhaps £150 each.

etc
[/quote]

Fucking Hell peter, that posts sums up exactly whats wrong with football.....

I got an Idea, how about if you go the match every week on the trot you can show your match ticket stubs and get 1st choice for cup matches?

Or shall we just let all the rich fuckers turn up and take any seat they want
[/quote]

it is to some extent what's wrong with football, yep.

but i don't think you're really being fair. i said there should be plenty of cheaper seats, to recognise the good of getting in younger and poorer fans. but, at the same time - and to compensate for lost revenue - i see no harm AT ALL in catering for people who are happy to pay more but who just can't get a fucking ticket.

i mean what exactly is 'fair' about the same guys going to the big games, year in, year out, and getting the tickets well below what they'd actually be prepared to pay for them, while tens of thousnds of others NEVER get to go to certain matches even once despite being prepared, imo, to pay big big money?

sorry, i guess you won't agree mate, but i'm absolutely convinced that that's a reasonable pricing strategy.
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Couldn't disagree with this more, it's not an auction and it's not Liverpool fault there is more demand than supply, however if someone goes to ten games a year they in my mind have much more right to go to the bigger games, finances aside.
 
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I think what Peter is suggesting is somewhat inevitable. Personally I'd prefer we stay as close to our working class roots as possible with cheap tickets, but doubt that's realistic. I'm sure I'm biased as I started going to Anfield in the 80's when you could get on the Kop for a fiver and the whole stadium rocked every game.
 
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47940.msg1444498#msg1444498 date=1324044176]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444484#msg1444484 date=1324043592]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47940.msg1444471#msg1444471 date=1324043247]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444461#msg1444461 date=1324042816]
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=47940.msg1444451#msg1444451 date=1324042359]
A lot of the money will be subsidized by corporate boxes that have contracts where an amazing amount of money is paid for every game and then huge catering contracts. Ticket prices depend how close you are. But a lot of cheap seats would be a great idea, should make the atmo better.
[/quote]

another thing i'd say is that i've never understood the almost total absence of a pricing strategy for tickets at anfield.

there should be cheap seats available, and plenty of them. but there should also be expensive seats, for people with money or who rarely get a chance of a ticket (such as me) and who are happy to pay big once or twice a year. why not have a few thousand premium seats for £80-100? i think the demand would be there.

also, most people without a season ticket will struggle to EVER get to a utd or everton game. they'd be willing to pay through the nose for the privelege of doing it just once, imo. i'd therefore investigate the possibility of having, say, 20k seats set aside for those games for such willing customers priced at perhaps £150 each.

etc
[/quote]

Fucking Hell peter, that posts sums up exactly whats wrong with football.....

I got an Idea, how about if you go the match every week on the trot you can show your match ticket stubs and get 1st choice for cup matches?

Or shall we just let all the rich fuckers turn up and take any seat they want
[/quote]

it is to some extent what's wrong with football, yep.

but i don't think you're really being fair. i said there should be plenty of cheaper seats, to recognise the good of getting in younger and poorer fans. but, at the same time - and to compensate for lost revenue - i see no harm AT ALL in catering for people who are happy to pay more but who just can't get a fucking ticket.

i mean what exactly is 'fair' about the same guys going to the big games, year in, year out, and getting the tickets well below what they'd actually be prepared to pay for them, while tens of thousnds of others NEVER get to go to certain matches even once despite being prepared, imo, to pay big big money?

sorry, i guess you won't agree mate, but i'm absolutely convinced that that's a reasonable pricing strategy.
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Couldn't disagree with this more, it's not an auction and it's not Liverpool fault there is more demand than supply, however if someone goes to ten games a year they in my mind have much more right to go to the bigger games, finances aside.
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i disagree. loyalty should be recognised, but i'd still point out that many - perhaps most - fans who rarely go are not uninterested or fair weather but just completely unable to get a ticket.

and even though loyalty should be rewarded, i still don't see why they should necessarily get tickets for the few games like utd, everton and big cup games at maybe a third of their true market value. all i'm saying is to exploit the market a bit more: get poorer fans in with cheap seats, regular fans in with regular seats, and rich (or rarely able to get tickets) fans in with expensive seats.


Asbo: possibly you have a point about exec boxes: i've never pursued the idea of taking one. my suspicion, however, is that they'd be much more expensive than double ot treble a seat in the kop, per person.
 
kids under a certain age should get in free. you fill seats that increase atmosphere and you are creating conveyor belt of new fans
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47940.msg1444508#msg1444508 date=1324044738]
kids under a certain age should get in free. you fill seats that increase atmosphere and you are creating conveyor belt of new fans
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I don't completely agree, if you buy a ticket you should be able to bring a kid under 14 with you for free.

Half price tickets for under 16 year olds and 25% off those under 18 too.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=47940.msg1444508#msg1444508 date=1324044738]
kids under a certain age should get in free. you fill seats that increase atmosphere and you are creating conveyor belt of new fans
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i've never been convinced by that argument. i don't think it would create very many additional future match goers, if any.

it's a nice gesture though, but again would have to investigated for affordability.
 
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444507#msg1444507 date=1324044640]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=47940.msg1444498#msg1444498 date=1324044176]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444484#msg1444484 date=1324043592]
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=47940.msg1444471#msg1444471 date=1324043247]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=47940.msg1444461#msg1444461 date=1324042816]
[quote author=Shelvey link=topic=47940.msg1444451#msg1444451 date=1324042359]
A lot of the money will be subsidized by corporate boxes that have contracts where an amazing amount of money is paid for every game and then huge catering contracts. Ticket prices depend how close you are. But a lot of cheap seats would be a great idea, should make the atmo better.
[/quote]

another thing i'd say is that i've never understood the almost total absence of a pricing strategy for tickets at anfield.

there should be cheap seats available, and plenty of them. but there should also be expensive seats, for people with money or who rarely get a chance of a ticket (such as me) and who are happy to pay big once or twice a year. why not have a few thousand premium seats for £80-100? i think the demand would be there.

also, most people without a season ticket will struggle to EVER get to a utd or everton game. they'd be willing to pay through the nose for the privelege of doing it just once, imo. i'd therefore investigate the possibility of having, say, 20k seats set aside for those games for such willing customers priced at perhaps £150 each.

etc
[/quote]

Fucking Hell peter, that posts sums up exactly whats wrong with football.....

I got an Idea, how about if you go the match every week on the trot you can show your match ticket stubs and get 1st choice for cup matches?

Or shall we just let all the rich fuckers turn up and take any seat they want
[/quote]

it is to some extent what's wrong with football, yep.

but i don't think you're really being fair. i said there should be plenty of cheaper seats, to recognise the good of getting in younger and poorer fans. but, at the same time - and to compensate for lost revenue - i see no harm AT ALL in catering for people who are happy to pay more but who just can't get a fucking ticket.

i mean what exactly is 'fair' about the same guys going to the big games, year in, year out, and getting the tickets well below what they'd actually be prepared to pay for them, while tens of thousnds of others NEVER get to go to certain matches even once despite being prepared, imo, to pay big big money?

sorry, i guess you won't agree mate, but i'm absolutely convinced that that's a reasonable pricing strategy.
[/quote]


Couldn't disagree with this more, it's not an auction and it's not Liverpool fault there is more demand than supply, however if someone goes to ten games a year they in my mind have much more right to go to the bigger games, finances aside.
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i disagree. loyalty should be recognised, but i'd still point out that many - perhaps most - fans who rarely go are not uninterested or fair weather but just completely unable to get a ticket.

and even though loyalty should be rewarded, i still don't see why they should necessarily get tickets for the few games like utd, everton and big cup games at maybe a third of their true market value. all i'm saying is to exploit the market a bit more: get poorer fans in with cheap seats, regular fans in with regular seats, and rich (or rarely able to get tickets) fans in with expensive seats.


Asbo: possibly you have a point about exec boxes: i've never pursued the idea of taking one. my suspicion, however, is that they'd be much more expensive than double ot treble a seat in the kop, per person.
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I think Peter's point is defensible. Most fans with means will find a way to get a ticket if they want one, but will likely pay a hefty price to tout. And, I think those fans would much rather pay that fee to the club. I know I would and have purchased tickets for too much money on a couple of occasions in the past.
 
I have a membership card which allows me to buy match tickets.
At most I would get over two or three times a year but I had five tickets bought on the card last season.
Because of that I would have been able to get tickets for the Man U match plus the upcoming derby this season.
I have also been able to get tickets for the upcoming Arsenal and Chelsea matches without any requirement for previous match attendance.
The card cost £30.
If people want to get to any match and are prepared to shell out £30 for a membership then they will have no problem in getting a ticket if they are prepared and know what they are doing
 
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