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That’s truly horrifying!!!
The stuff of nightmares ! Aaarrgghh
The leaders of both main parties campaigned to stay in the EU, and have switched sides afterwards, despite having been proven right. I just don't get it.
It’s obvious isn’t it.
Because 52% of the people wanted it, can’t put this on politicians when we had a vote and “more” said yes to leave.
52% of people have voted since for parties that wanted to remain in 2019. My point was actually that there's more information now as to how Brexit pans out, and to change your mind in favour of it, given you were proved right, doesn't really paint a good picture of your ability to judge good decisions
I guess they feel the people and public consensus is still similar and afraid to even deviate from that line of following through what peope voted for.
It’s going to take a brave person to deviate from that and don’t see it happening soon.
The public stood up for the rights of students, fishermen, and irishmen in that second round of voting. Selfless heroes, every last one of them. They made the ultimate sacrifice for the tiniest minority of their population. A sacrifice they will continue to make when some of them quite literally die this winter.
Yeah. But why were they voted in by their parties, why not vote in someone that was pro-Brexit the whole time?
I guess it's admirable to align your position to what the majority vote for.
The actual personal positions of the party leaders (the main ones, that is) and their public positions on Brexit have always been a bit of a mess.
As you say, now we have two people who were publicly pro-remain, presumably also privately pro-remain but are both completely committed to Brexit.
Back at the time of the last election, we had a Labour leader who was personally the biggest Brexiteer going but was leading a party that was pro-remain in terms of it's members and MPs but had to pretend that it pro-Brexit, but not too much, against a Tory leader who probably never cared much either way as long as he was in charge.
As you say, now we have two people who were publicly pro-remain, presumably also privately pro-remain but are both completely committed to Brexit.
Back at the time of the last election, we had a Labour leader who was personally the biggest Brexiteer going but was leading a party that was pro-remain in terms of it's members and MPs but had to pretend that it pro-Brexit, but not too much, against a Tory leader who probably never cared much either way as long as he was in charge.
When you keep saying me your position, do you mean me personally? I voted in.
I think honestly they couldn’t care less but we seem to be letting people who voted off the hook? The decision doesn’t impact big businesss and those that have.
I fucking called it way back in July.
No, I didn't mean your personal opinion on it. I meant your, as in ones position i.e the leaders position.
It's all politics I guess, what do you need to say to get votes.
It's almost as if what they personally believe in and stand for, as well as their concern for how things turn out for the general population and righting errors made in the past take a backseat to other shadowy motives. I, for one, am shocked that we can't rely on our politicians to be competent, show integrity, be consistent and tell the truth. It never used to be like this. Not in the good old days.
Ha, yeah, exactly.
This is too much. I need to just autosave the link to the Thierry Henry gif, you will forgive my laziness on this occasion.
Nah.. the last lot were definitely worse.. bar Mogg and Truss, I don't really hate this lot..
There's still time.
Surely that’s Kenneth Clarke?
Self loathing Kimmy? Useless James? Desperate Suella? Kwasi the shagger? who apparently shagged Liz to get there?
It’s like a competition for biggest cunt.
But you've got to look at the shite they replaced..
Shapps, Raab, Gove, Dorries, Patel.
What?
Obviously criminal people invented woke stuff out of thin air to argue about and steal money under the guise of charities and activism. The people inexplicably fell for it all, in great numbers, which naturally turned it into an industry, to the point that bankers are allocating money according to ESG metrics, instead of actual profits. The people are responsible for this new world.
So now those people have fallen on hard times, and desperately need real action from their leaders. When their leaders invent woke stuff out of thin air to pass the time whilst they steal money under the guise of public service, and the dumb people get mad over it, it elicits the classic thierry henry smirk.
All this happened because idiots fell for milliband can’t eat a bacon butty right.
You'll have to ask these idiots themselves. I believe it has happened gradually as the world has become more connected and complex. In your forefathers day it was simple to identify the chains of cause and effect, and so they didn't make idiotic choices with their voting or with their spending. Since they knew with a high degree of certainty the outcome of their choice. A smart way to go about shit.
Today that chain is far more complicated to understand thanks to global trade, the internet, computers, and so forth, whilst it's inhabitants have simultaneously become far less intelligent. I suspect they don't like that feeling, they want to be able to understand the world, but they're totally out of their depth, and so this woke disease is their solution. They've handwaved away the complexity, and treat everything like it's a question of feels and virtue. It's truly pathetic. Anyway, their detachment from the actual chains of cause and effect is why these woke idiots make comically stupid decisions with their every vote and spending habit. The result is the world you are suddenly afraid to let your kids grow up in now. I'll leave it there before I elicit another thierry henry gif.
