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If its mothballed now, could you imagine the uproar? "Oh look how many billions have been wasted"
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If its mothballed now, could you imagine the uproar? "Oh look how many billions have been wasted"
That was just one demographic.
What about tourists? There really should be no need to take a plane from London to Manchester, or beyond.
However our slow rail network means its convenient to do so.
Not really. It's only two hours from Liverpool, Manchester or Leeds to London and there's less people using them now than for years.
I'm not anti HS2, the country needs loads more big infrastructure projects, I'm just saying that the trains to London are pretty damn good already.
I'm not anti HS2, the country needs loads more big infrastructure projects, I'm just saying that the trains to London are pretty damn good already.
Even though the place is a political bin fire I'm finding myself regretting not moving to the States twenty years ago when I had the chance. Everyone I know who did is smashing it. Everyone in business over here is talking about riding the next decade out and hoping for the best. And now we're all kinda trapped on dickhead island.
any other third world country in the same circumstances as us right now, the people would have revolted, tried to kill all the government and got the army out on the streets as the coup begins. we are sat here twiddling our thumbs waiting for a general election
Imagine being one of these Tim Nice But Dim Tories whose been burying his head in the sand being a boring constituency MP for twenty years and suddenly having Lee The Twat and Suella ordering you to bulldoze the unemployed into mass graves.
Anyways, I read something the other day saying all the cruel policies of our govt have bitten them on the arse and more people disapprove than approve, their ratings are getting worse by the day, so trying to breitbart us into an American shaped toilet for all this business hasn't worked. I'm really fucking happy about that so I'm choosing to believe it. I'm choosing to believe that people have finally had enough of all this fucking bullshit.
Anyways, I read something the other day saying all the cruel policies of our govt have bitten them on the arse and more people disapprove than approve, their ratings are getting worse by the day, so trying to breitbart us into an American shaped toilet for all this business hasn't worked. I'm really fucking happy about that so I'm choosing to believe it. I'm choosing to believe that people have finally had enough of all this fucking bullshit.
don't do it mate, there's still plenty of cunts out there in the world
It's kinda odd to meet anyone doing better now than they were in 2010. If you're not a disaster capitalist or on a defined benefit pension it's very rare. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's against the odds... Yet they're still in power and still in with a shout of keeping it.
There's piecemeal investment in this country and, where there is money thrown at something, it's usually a bad idea.
The NHS isn't fit for purpose. How much is it going to cost to right that?
Public transport is shite. It needs re-nationalising instead of surplus money being siphoned to shareholders. The service is more expensive than ever and WORSE than ever.
Water is shite. Needs re-nationalising. Dumping shit in rivers due to Victorian infrastructure whilst billions is siphoned to shareholders. How much is that going to cost?
Utilities are shite. Hiding behind a pretend masquerade of excuses to line shareholder profits, they should be re-nationalised. How much is that going to cost?
Telecom should be re-nationalised. The service is better than most other devolved businesses but is still subject to black-spot areas and prohibitive costs.
The Post Office is wank, sort that.
I mean, I remember the aim of privatisation. Competition for service, more choice, better service, lower consumer costs. PURE BOLLOCKS.
We've sold the silver and are paying gold prices for dog turds. Whilst other people (offshore in a lot of cases) are lining their pockets.
But, to pull it back is going to cost hundreds of billions of pounds.
The start has to be taxing big business, taxing the super rich and closing tax loopholes. Virtually every facet of living is broken in this country at the moment, we need an overhaul.
Birmingham is officially broke as of this week, the largest council in Europe. There is some tremendous mis-management there but you have to recognise that councils have been screwed by austerity. The Tories are trying to score points off Birmingham but Tory councils have also enacted bankruptcy notices.
The money has to come from somewhere. We need to start again and reset the model. The Tories won't do this, I don't think Starmer will do this so, fuck knows where we're going but it isn't a good place.
The NHS isn't fit for purpose. How much is it going to cost to right that?
Public transport is shite. It needs re-nationalising instead of surplus money being siphoned to shareholders. The service is more expensive than ever and WORSE than ever.
Water is shite. Needs re-nationalising. Dumping shit in rivers due to Victorian infrastructure whilst billions is siphoned to shareholders. How much is that going to cost?
Utilities are shite. Hiding behind a pretend masquerade of excuses to line shareholder profits, they should be re-nationalised. How much is that going to cost?
Telecom should be re-nationalised. The service is better than most other devolved businesses but is still subject to black-spot areas and prohibitive costs.
The Post Office is wank, sort that.
I mean, I remember the aim of privatisation. Competition for service, more choice, better service, lower consumer costs. PURE BOLLOCKS.
We've sold the silver and are paying gold prices for dog turds. Whilst other people (offshore in a lot of cases) are lining their pockets.
But, to pull it back is going to cost hundreds of billions of pounds.
The start has to be taxing big business, taxing the super rich and closing tax loopholes. Virtually every facet of living is broken in this country at the moment, we need an overhaul.
Birmingham is officially broke as of this week, the largest council in Europe. There is some tremendous mis-management there but you have to recognise that councils have been screwed by austerity. The Tories are trying to score points off Birmingham but Tory councils have also enacted bankruptcy notices.
The money has to come from somewhere. We need to start again and reset the model. The Tories won't do this, I don't think Starmer will do this so, fuck knows where we're going but it isn't a good place.
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There's a dovetail here between this thread and the 'Family members going Q' thread in that, social care costs in this country are now astronomical.
Adult and Children's social care costs are off the fuckin chart. There are so many members of our society who need help and the money just isn't there. And the costs to help them have sky-rocketed. And the Govt have kicked reform into the long-grass, the too-hard basket. See you in 2027 (won't happen either).
Ergo, councils are spending 80% of their budgets on looking after people. So your bins, weeds, potholes etc. stand no fuckin chance. And that's what gets people's goats up.
Council grants are down by (average) 50% since Osborne and 2010. Councils seek alternative income methods and some/a lot fuck that up. It should never have been devolved to councils, they don't have the skillset. Councils should look after bin days and fetes and fuck all else. But this is where we're at.
Effectively most council money is going on looking after people now and the other statutory services i.e. bins. Start to expect your council tax to rise by 15% when your council cries poverty a la Birmingham.
Adult and Children's social care costs are off the fuckin chart. There are so many members of our society who need help and the money just isn't there. And the costs to help them have sky-rocketed. And the Govt have kicked reform into the long-grass, the too-hard basket. See you in 2027 (won't happen either).
Ergo, councils are spending 80% of their budgets on looking after people. So your bins, weeds, potholes etc. stand no fuckin chance. And that's what gets people's goats up.
Council grants are down by (average) 50% since Osborne and 2010. Councils seek alternative income methods and some/a lot fuck that up. It should never have been devolved to councils, they don't have the skillset. Councils should look after bin days and fetes and fuck all else. But this is where we're at.
Effectively most council money is going on looking after people now and the other statutory services i.e. bins. Start to expect your council tax to rise by 15% when your council cries poverty a la Birmingham.
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We're not taking back control of anything, we never will, we never would. But Brexit isn't the worst thing in our world at the moment, it's the legacy of austerity; it's killing us. If we could get over that we'd really see how bad Brexit was making things.
The last 13 years is going to fuck the country for generations.
The last 13 years is going to fuck the country for generations.
Don’t disagree.
The general view is - Brexit doesn’t cause all the problems, it’s just makes them worse and seemingly doesn’t make anything better.
Meanwhile, Starmer has conducted a campaign to rid the Labour party and its cabinet of left-wing MPs (unless you count Ed, who's just happy to have a job). He's overhauled his cabinet with a mixture of Blairite dinosaurs and their younger groupies and his strategy is to look as inoffensive to tory voters as possible. So I wouldn't get too excited about the prospect of change if I were you.
What a sorry state of affairs for the British public.
I hope this is just to appeal to centre right voters for next years election. It's really the only way it can be done with 90% of the media being tory fan boys.
Wishful thinking. This is his politics and how he intends to govern.
By the time they've gone from central London to any of the small airports that fly regionally, and then from those airports to the respective city centre they will have taken lots more time than just getting on a train from Euston/Kings Cross.
HS2. What a wank-fest of a vanity project. Funnelling people to London when the Govt are pretending they're channelling a levelling-up project PLUS flexible working means that this just isn't the modern working model anymore. First cut-back, stops at Manchester. Second cut-back, stops at Birmingham. By the time they've finished, this will have been an overhaul of Network South-East. To the tune of £100B. I mean, fuck me. It's not as if this wasn't obvious.
Anyone in the North of England who was duped by the levelling-up lie, and there was millions, hang your heads in shame. You thick fuckers, they're laughing at you.
Anyone in the North of England who was duped by the levelling-up lie, and there was millions, hang your heads in shame. You thick fuckers, they're laughing at you.
So now we're binning our green policy aspirations. Why?
Is this to save you money, to avoid overloading the common person in the midst of this cost-of-living crisis?
Nothing so laudable. An attempt for votes on the back of an unexpected ULEZ revolt in Uxbridge. A vote-grabber aimed at the climate deniers. That's where Tory policy is at these days. The dying embers of a failed administration fishing for votes.
The motor industry has been investing in this for years. We've just bribed Tata to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds to invest here. But, a whiff of a few votes and it's a complete 180.
Whether you think 2030 was achievable or not, what we're seeing here is short-term reactionary vote fishing. The short-termism in this country is scandalous. But as much as I hate the Tories for doing it, I hate Starmer for not calling it. The bloke's a cunt.
Nothing's going to change in this country, just let's get rid of these horrible parasites for a start then move on.
Is this to save you money, to avoid overloading the common person in the midst of this cost-of-living crisis?
Nothing so laudable. An attempt for votes on the back of an unexpected ULEZ revolt in Uxbridge. A vote-grabber aimed at the climate deniers. That's where Tory policy is at these days. The dying embers of a failed administration fishing for votes.
The motor industry has been investing in this for years. We've just bribed Tata to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds to invest here. But, a whiff of a few votes and it's a complete 180.
Whether you think 2030 was achievable or not, what we're seeing here is short-term reactionary vote fishing. The short-termism in this country is scandalous. But as much as I hate the Tories for doing it, I hate Starmer for not calling it. The bloke's a cunt.
Nothing's going to change in this country, just let's get rid of these horrible parasites for a start then move on.
Part of the rhetoric in the early days after Russia invaded Ukraine was about weaning ourselves off the Russian oil and gas.
There was a push towards creating our own and reducing it.
Spent a bundle on the various cost measures last winter and maybe there's a feeling of well we need that Russian gas this winter otherwise we're gonna have to keep forking out loads.
Blame it on those pink hair gender binary 7 bin using climate loons and we might be able to avoid any significant backlash.
There was a push towards creating our own and reducing it.
Spent a bundle on the various cost measures last winter and maybe there's a feeling of well we need that Russian gas this winter otherwise we're gonna have to keep forking out loads.
Blame it on those pink hair gender binary 7 bin using climate loons and we might be able to avoid any significant backlash.
