UFC

[Atlas]

You could see why Poirier was so hard on himself after the fight.

I think Khabib's reputation is starting to win these fights. The guys are so worried about containing / defending they neglect their own strengths.
Would've liked to see Poirier really unload after he caught Khabib on the chin.

A - amazing quality on the links thanks, hopefully they stick around til this evening when I'm back from work.

B- On one of the grainy vids I saw on youtube they had the camera in Dustins corner between rounds. That sounded like a man who was like wtf is going on here
'There's no space in there' end of round one
' I cant him the fuck off me' round two.

He tried the Guillotine round two but it was kinda lame and wasn't really on. Round three he went for it trying to rip Khabibs head off but it took it out of him and under that heat in Abu Dhabi under the lights etc he was done... but that's what I couldn't see on the vid how well it was in and how locked up khabibs body was.

Ferguson is the only fight on the cards now, Connor can tweet all he wants but he needs to have a fight or two before getting another chance.

 

[SaRed]

I think he tried to unload, I was really impressed how well khabib swerved away from his punches & gave himself time to recover before getting into range, he got himself a good twenty seconds which was enough to clear his head & get a bit of strength back into his legs.

Yeah, maybe I'm doing Khabib a disservice.
He did recover well, I just thought Poirier was holding back.

After Poirier caught Khabib he tried to land a couple punches but as soon as Khabib started circling, it seemed he only halfheartedly followed him.

I'll have to watch it again.

 

[SaRed]

A - amazing quality on the links thanks, hopefully they stick around til this evening when I'm back from work.

B- On one of the grainy vids I saw on youtube they had the camera in Dustins corner between rounds. That sounded like a man who was like wtf is going on here
'There's no space in there' end of round one
' I cant him the fuck off me' round two.

He tried the Guillotine round two but it was kinda lame and wasn't really on. Round three he went for it trying to rip Khabibs head off but it took it out of him and under that heat in Abu Dhabi under the lights etc he was done... but that's what I couldn't see on the vid how well it was in and how locked up khabibs body was.

Ferguson is the only fight on the cards now, Connor can tweet all he wants but he needs to have a fight or two before getting another chance.

The only place that was lacking space was Poirier's brain.
I think it all just got to him.
So much work and practice and advice on how to counter Khabib and when he got in there it all just got jumbled in his head.

His movement wasn't really there, his boxing either. His defensive wrestling is pretty good, but he still kept looking to his corner for advice. Think he got tripped once while still trying to figure out what his team was saying.

 

[Atlas]

Shout out to Anatomy of a fighter vids.
Plus see how khabibs face changes shape from first vid to last

 

[Roopy]

B- On one of the grainy vids I saw on youtube they had the camera in Dustins corner between rounds. That sounded like a man who was like wtf is going on here
'There's no space in there' end of round one
' I cant him the fuck off me' round two.

And that's basically how Khabib won the fight - he wore out Poirer just through the grappling exchanges.

When Khabib has a hold on you, the way he uses his chest.... then the downward pressure using his hips ... and before you know it your legs are tied up ... at this stage, without any ground and pound & submission attempts, it takes a big toll just trying defend that alone.

And that's exactly why Poirier was annoyed at himself post fight when he was discussing the guillotine he had in place.

He was so tired from the grappling exchanges he was unable to seize that moment by forgetting to go into full mount on the guillotine attempt which would have put Khabib in big big danger of being submitted.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

You could see why Poirier was so hard on himself after the fight.

I think Khabib's reputation is starting to win these fights. The guys are so worried about containing / defending they neglect their own strengths.
Would've liked to see Poirier really unload after he caught Khabib on the chin.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trentr...242-loss-to-khabib-nurmagomedov/#6102567b1883

Poirier got so frustrated between the second and third rounds that he told his coaches, "I can't get him the (expletive) off me, man."
"The guy is good," Poirier said after the fight. "He's a world champ. Maybe I could've done more. Hindsight is 20/20. I was ready to fight 25 minutes. He did exactly what I thought he was going to do. Of course I'm going to beat myself up, and I'm the only one who has to deal with this – me and my family. I'm just wondering if maybe against the fence when I got underhooks if I could've tried a little bit harder to get off the fence maybe. But that's just questions I'm going to have to live with for the rest of my life."
"I thought for sure he was winning the rounds, taking me down and dominating. I thought he was squeezing hard. We were getting slicker. He was getting a little weaker. Coming into this fight later in the third, fourth and fifth were going to be my rounds. I wasn't planning on giving up the first two, but I knew they were going to be tough. I thought the deeper we got into the fight the slicker I was going to be, but that's fighting. It's tough."

Enough said.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

As much a love Khabib - I doubt he would maul Ferguson like he has done to the rest.

Ferguson is an absolute beast with world class BJJ - very unconventional BJJ too, receives his training from Eddie Bravo's 10th Planet BJJ.

He's also a very lanky figure - he can pull out arm bars in ridiculous situations even when he's been taken down. Those long arms and legs give him different ammunition when it comes to the ground game.

Poirer is another high level grappler - and to be honest Khabib only really had one moment of ground & pound right at the end of the first round - other than that Poirer did very well to repel the submission & ground n pound attempts.

Of course Khabib got the job done in the end but this was by no means a massacre like he put on Barboza, Conor & Michael Johnson.

Dos Anjos was a BJJ specialist and had good takedown techniques too - completely destroyed by Khabib.

But no doubt, Tony's a beast and should be a no-brainer as Khabib's next challenger. I'd quite like to see Nate Diaz fight Khabib too simply because Nate's such an underrated fighter imo. Nate's got a good guard but Khabib will probably maul him too.

Tony's got that slick move where he spins and slices people with his elbows. I'd like to see how Khabib counters that. Gonna be a heck of a fight for sure.

 

[Roopy]

Dos Anjos was a BJJ specialist and had good takedown techniques too - completely destroyed by Khabib.

But no doubt, Tony's a beast and should be a no-brainer as Khabib's next challenger. I'd quite like to see Nate Diaz fight Khabib too simply because Nate's such an underrated fighter imo. Nate's got a good guard but Khabib will probably maul him too.

Tony's got that slick move where he spins and slices people with his elbows. I'd like to see how Khabib counters that. Gonna be a heck of a fight for sure.

Don't get me wrong Khabib has fought some fantastic BJJ fighters - but they are all conventional BJJ fighters.

The point of difference is just how unorthodox Ferguson is with his striking & wrestling - as you said he'll throw spinning fists/elbows, unpredictable foot movement ... and his BJJ is not conventional either as he plies his trade under 10th Planet which is very different from your traditional BJJ.

He'll unleash the unexpected and I think that's what makes the match up so intriguing.

An unexpected shot is probably the only thing that can defeat Khabib - but whether he can pull it of or not ...

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

Bruce Lee would have whooped all their arses.

 

[Atlas]

I watched the fight again.

I don't think he forgot to go full mount, he's a black belt. Black belts don't forget how to finish a technique. He was upset because he practised and practised for that one change and his body failed him cos he couldn't pull it off. You could see him try the guillotine a couple of times second round it clearly wasn't in so he let go.

He clipped khabib and couldn't follow up and throw a flurry of combos cos khabib backed off. He knew that he practised for the chance and he got it but he couldn't complete it.

His words between rounds just show you khabib is a different beast.
I don't think khabib gets the full credit he deserves.

As mentioned Dos Sanjos is a monster he's a third degree black belt, he a world champ on BJJ and was mauled.
Then it was Barboza is a striker who won't let khabib in..mauled.
Connor He's possibly the GOAT .. mauled

Comment about Ferguson might be right, Eddie Bravo is a bit unorthodox so maybe it might be different and Ferguson does have the ability to cut etc so it remains to be seen if he can stop Khabib.

 

[Rafiagra]

Ferguson need to land one of those elbows and then let’s see where it goes.

However, I think the reality is that if Khabib gets anyone down, he’s dominating. He’s just too good and then he just suffocates the fight out of them. It’s just a matter of time then as Khabib just drains their strength away. He’s so effective it’s unreal, like an anaconda.

 

[Mors]

I'm not saying ferguson is shit, because he's not, but he's not on the level of khabib. He throws about a million light weight shots every fight and it ends up fights via death by paper cuts. He can't do that if he's on his back getting his head smashed in. If this fight happens, I'd suspect his way to win is via submission if he can somehow get out from under khabib and get ontop of him, as a triangle from the bottom is virtually his only way to win from the bottom apart for some random jammy leg lock.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

Ok here’s the massive difference.

I’ve yet to see Khabib end a fight with a nosebleed.

But Tony has bled many times.

Did you all see how Tony beat Pettis ? I wasn’t impressed at all. If it wasn’t for Pettis’ broken hand, who knows what might have been the outcome of that fight. Ferguson was dropped a couple times too. The same Pettis who lost to Dos Anjos and Barboza, both fighters mauled by Khabib.

 

[SaRed]

Yeah, I think Ferguson is bit over hyped.
But then, who next for Khabib?

GSP would be a good fight. Although, he's been out a while, so not sure what sort of shape he's in.
Also, if Khabib loses, that fucks the UFC if GSP doesn't stick around.
So, guess we'll never see that match up.

 

[gytisfromhr]

Give everybody to street Jesus while he's still in his babtising element lol

 

[Mors]

Masvidal is bollocks. He's gone 2-2 in his last 4, gets a flukey buster douglas/mcgregor shot on Askren and all of a sudden he thinks he's fucking bruce lee.
Would not be at all surprised to see Nate beat him, and nate isn't exactly great.

 

[ILD]

Mors, you don't seem to like anyone who has charisma or personality do you? I love Jorge Masvidal. That flying knee was excellent and cannot be called flukey when footage of him practicing it over and over again emerged. The same with Mcgregor. Flukey shot? He said in the build up that Aldo would charge in with a big right and Mcgregor would slip to the left and KO him within one round. It's not flukey when you actually carry out tactics you planned to use.

I think Nate will beat Masvidal on points btw.

 

[Mors]

I like fighters that are talented, have heart, and don't talk shit. Masvidal falls foul of the first one (comparatively, he's currently 2-2), and mcgregor falls foul of the last 2.
Re Masvidal not being flukey, letss him him pull that one off again in the next 10 fights. They practise everything in training, so in theory, any fight they win is because of anything they've practised in training.
Re mcgregor, again, has he ever knocked someone out that quick or will ever again? If he can't do it consistently, it's a one-off/fluke, ala buster douglas. As you should well know, mcgregor says a lottttttt of things in the buildup to fights, all sort of made up shit. A broken clock is right twice a day. It was great shot, no doubt about it, but a fluke.

I agree with you re Nate and him winning, I think he's better than Masvidal, but there's not much in it.

 

[dantes]

Presumably, Adesanya has the requisite amount of talent for you?

 

[gytisfromhr]

Presumably, Adesanya has the requisite amount of talent for you?

It looks like he does lol

 

[Rafiagra]

Adesanya actually rivals McGregor for the amount of shit he talks. His post fight interview was embarrassing. Weird cos he has moments of humility and then just goes total bellend

 

[Mors]

I'd like to see adesanya fight jones tbh, might straighten him out

 

[Mors]

Conor vs Cerrone for Jan then. This is do or die for conor surely, he's not won a fight for nearly 4yrs and he's W2 L3 in his last 5.
Cerrone has immense cardio so surely he'd be looking to drag him out into the later rounds, but can take a while to get going and could get put out early. This feels like a bit of a cherry picked one for conor as Cerrone has lost his last 6 of his last 10, and Dana loves Cerrone so will desperate to give him a money fight.
A Porier rematch, a fight against Gaethje, Edgar, Volkanovski, Ortega etc would all have been better more competitive fights.

 

[dantes]

Conor vs Cerrone for Jan then. This is do or die for conor surely, he's not won a fight for nearly 4yrs and he's W2 L3 in his last 5. Cerrone has immense cardio so surely he'd be looking to drag him out into the later rounds, but can take a while to get going and could get put out early. This feels like a bit of a cherry picked one for conor as Cerrone has lost his last 6 of his last 10, and Dana loves Cerrone so will desperate to give him a money fight.
A Porier rematch, a fight against Gaethje, Edgar, Volkanovski, Ortega etc would all have been better more competitive fights.

He just needs a quick win for the sake of his whiskey. The return on investment is probably less than he hoped, he doesn't want to wait a decade to recover the capital, so beating the shit out of cowboy, who also has a shit drink attached to his name, it makes complete commercial sense. A battle of the drinks. A win. A world tour off the back of it. Sales pick up. Job done.

 

[Mors]

I heard that the whiskey isn't doing as well as made out. He shoulda gone on dragons den with the idea instead.

 

[dantes]

It's an awful excuse for a whiskey, is probably why.

 

[Athens]

I've heard that the whiskey is made by Bushmills, which is a bit weird as their whiskies are nice. Unless they made it shit on purpose, it could be part of the tayto wars. A side campaign, like the invasion of Italy.

 

[ILD]

I heard that the whiskey isn't doing as well as made out. He shoulda gone on dragons den with the idea instead.

Where did you hear that? I've heard the opposite? Truth is prob someone in between.

 

[Athens]

Where did you hear that? I've heard the opposite? Truth is prob someone in between.

I had read that it tasted like crap.

I don't remember where I read that, though.

 

[ILD]

Oh it might taste like crap but I read it was selling.