We want 5M for Arbeloa apparently
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I'll be sad to see him go.
One of our better signing based on price and what he brought to the team.
Lets hope Johnson doesn't get injured.
One of our better signing based on price and what he brought to the team.
Lets hope Johnson doesn't get injured.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=34369.msg894665#msg894665 date=1245894573]
It's also ridiculous that we're even considering selling him for 5 million whilst getting JOhnson for 18 million; I don't see him as that much better.
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Johnson's two years younger.
Johnson is English.
Arbeloa has only 1 year left on his contract.
All contributory factors.
It's also ridiculous that we're even considering selling him for 5 million whilst getting JOhnson for 18 million; I don't see him as that much better.
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Johnson's two years younger.
Johnson is English.
Arbeloa has only 1 year left on his contract.
All contributory factors.
£5m for Arbeloa isn't a lot even when you take into account he only has 1 year left on his contract. I think he's a very useful, versatile player but if he wants to leave and return to Spain then there's not much point standing in his way.
Losing Alonso will be a big blow and I'm struggling to think of viable, available options to replace him.
Losing Alonso will be a big blow and I'm struggling to think of viable, available options to replace him.
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£5m for Arbeloa isn't a lot even when you take into account he only has 1 year left on his contract. I think he's a very useful, versatile player but if he wants to leave and return to Spain then there's not much point standing in his way.
Losing Alonso will be a big blow and I'm struggling to think of viable, available options to replace him.
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I just read on the Beeb site that Birmingham are giving Cardiff 5M for Roger Johnson. I'm now not happy with 5M from Real Mardid for Arbeloa.
£5m for Arbeloa isn't a lot even when you take into account he only has 1 year left on his contract. I think he's a very useful, versatile player but if he wants to leave and return to Spain then there's not much point standing in his way.
Losing Alonso will be a big blow and I'm struggling to think of viable, available options to replace him.
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I just read on the Beeb site that Birmingham are giving Cardiff 5M for Roger Johnson. I'm now not happy with 5M from Real Mardid for Arbeloa.
Fuck, when I heard 10 million getting bandied about I said I'd believe it when I saw it. Maybe we'd pay 10 million for him, and it'd somehow make a point about how serious we are, but it sadly rings true that we are talking about half that. I'd be quite happy to get 8.
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Is it because Carra nearly socked it to him during the match?
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definately.
Is it because Carra nearly socked it to him during the match?
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definately.
I really like bob, a little gutted to be honest 🙁
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[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34369.msg894666#msg894666 date=1245894697]
Is it because Carra nearly socked it to him during the match?
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definately.
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What Carra biffed, they dissapear....
[quote author=Y1 link=topic=34369.msg894666#msg894666 date=1245894697]
Is it because Carra nearly socked it to him during the match?
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definately.
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What Carra biffed, they dissapear....
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=34369.msg894681#msg894681 date=1245904896]
£5m for Arbeloa isn't a lot even when you take into account he only has 1 year left on his contract. I think he's a very useful, versatile player but if he wants to leave and return to Spain then there's not much point standing in his way.
Losing Alonso will be a big blow and I'm struggling to think of viable, available options to replace him.
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Shame we let Arbeloa's contract run down. I thought that wasn't supposed to happen anymore?
As for replacing Xabi... I don't think it can be done really. Please don't sell him Rafa.
£5m for Arbeloa isn't a lot even when you take into account he only has 1 year left on his contract. I think he's a very useful, versatile player but if he wants to leave and return to Spain then there's not much point standing in his way.
Losing Alonso will be a big blow and I'm struggling to think of viable, available options to replace him.
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Shame we let Arbeloa's contract run down. I thought that wasn't supposed to happen anymore?
As for replacing Xabi... I don't think it can be done really. Please don't sell him Rafa.
Yeah the contract situation is daft, was he one of the one's 'told' not to sign until Rafa had sorted out his own future?
Anyway, regardless I still think he's one of the best right backs in the league and he was a steal for the price, if he goes we're back down to one right back pretty much, we can't really rely on Carra playing there because we're down to three in the middle.
Anyway, regardless I still think he's one of the best right backs in the league and he was a steal for the price, if he goes we're back down to one right back pretty much, we can't really rely on Carra playing there because we're down to three in the middle.
well, let's hope we've learnt our lessons and anyone who lets their contract dip close to or below two years is offered a contract with the ultimatum of signing or being sold...
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The fee is influenced by the fact Arbeloa has made it clear to Rafa & the club he's homesick & wants to return to Spain, the Spanish clubs are well aware of this.
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The fee is influenced by the fact Arbeloa has made it clear to Rafa & the club he's homesick & wants to return to Spain, the Spanish clubs are well aware of this.
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That's likely why he wasn't offered another contract also.
Although we probably should of sold him last year and recouped a bigger fee and bought Johnson when he was a "£7-10M player. Hindsight's wonderful.
The fee is influenced by the fact Arbeloa has made it clear to Rafa & the club he's homesick & wants to return to Spain, the Spanish clubs are well aware of this.
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That's likely why he wasn't offered another contract also.
Although we probably should of sold him last year and recouped a bigger fee and bought Johnson when he was a "£7-10M player. Hindsight's wonderful.
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[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=34369.msg894767#msg894767 date=1245916234]
That's partly true, but I think the main reason is because he knows his position here is untenable after Carra-gate.
In fact, I'd wager that the 'homesick' story is a tad exaggerated.
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The "home sick story" is years old and is no way connected to 'Carra-gate'
And it can't be suggest his position certainly isn't "untenable" after that incident because nobody knows what happened in the aftermath. It wasn't *that* bigger deal, and I certainly don't think it's why he's leaving.
That's partly true, but I think the main reason is because he knows his position here is untenable after Carra-gate.
In fact, I'd wager that the 'homesick' story is a tad exaggerated.
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The "home sick story" is years old and is no way connected to 'Carra-gate'
And it can't be suggest his position certainly isn't "untenable" after that incident because nobody knows what happened in the aftermath. It wasn't *that* bigger deal, and I certainly don't think it's why he's leaving.
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[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=34369.msg894767#msg894767 date=1245916234]
That's partly true, but I think the main reason is because he knows his position here is untenable after Carra-gate.
In fact, I'd wager that the 'homesick' story is a tad exaggerated.
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The "home sick story" is years old and is no way connected to 'Carra-gate'
And it can't be suggest his position certainly isn't "untenable" after that incident because nobody knows what happened in the aftermath. It wasn't *that* bigger deal, and I certainly don't think it's why he's leaving.
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Are you suggesting that his possible departure is not linked to either the Carragher incident or being homesick?
I was being speculative,but alternative reasons are a little thin,Squiggs.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=34369.msg894767#msg894767 date=1245916234]
That's partly true, but I think the main reason is because he knows his position here is untenable after Carra-gate.
In fact, I'd wager that the 'homesick' story is a tad exaggerated.
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The "home sick story" is years old and is no way connected to 'Carra-gate'
And it can't be suggest his position certainly isn't "untenable" after that incident because nobody knows what happened in the aftermath. It wasn't *that* bigger deal, and I certainly don't think it's why he's leaving.
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Are you suggesting that his possible departure is not linked to either the Carragher incident or being homesick?
I was being speculative,but alternative reasons are a little thin,Squiggs.
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No, I do think he's missing some Spanish sun and lifestyle, and has done for a while. And we've just signed a £17M fullback - who will play regardless of form to justify his fee (like Berbz at United), leaving Arbeloa with no room in the team.
Plus he's got the 'greatest team in the world' coming in for him, who've signed some of the worlds best players.
They're reasons enough without bringing 'Carra-gate' into it, because like I said, I don't think that's a big deal; especially when you consider the above factors.
Plus he's got the 'greatest team in the world' coming in for him, who've signed some of the worlds best players.
They're reasons enough without bringing 'Carra-gate' into it, because like I said, I don't think that's a big deal; especially when you consider the above factors.
Perhaps not, but I think we're bringing in Johnson because Arbeloa is leaving; rather than a case of Arbeloa leaving because Johnson is coming.
You're right though, that there are lots of possible reasons why Arbeloa would want to leave.
Who knows?
Maybe Arbeloa won't leave after all and we'll have RB set for a while.
After all, RB was NOT a priority 2 months ago; LW and a second striker was a bigger priority.
In fact, as you've suggested yourself; LB was more of a problem than RB with Insua being unproven, Aurelio being made of glass, and Dossena being rubbish.
You're right though, that there are lots of possible reasons why Arbeloa would want to leave.
Who knows?
Maybe Arbeloa won't leave after all and we'll have RB set for a while.
After all, RB was NOT a priority 2 months ago; LW and a second striker was a bigger priority.
In fact, as you've suggested yourself; LB was more of a problem than RB with Insua being unproven, Aurelio being made of glass, and Dossena being rubbish.
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No, I do think he's missing some Spanish sun and lifestyle, and has done for a while. And we've just signed a £17M fullback - who will play regardless of form to justify his fee (like Berbz at United), leaving Arbeloa with no room in the team.
Plus he's got the 'greatest team in the world' coming in for him, who've signed some of the worlds best players.
They're reasons enough without bringing 'Carra-gate' into it, because like I said, I don't think that's a big deal; especially when you consider the above factors.
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Keane wasn't played regardless of form to justify his fee, so why would Johnson.
No, I do think he's missing some Spanish sun and lifestyle, and has done for a while. And we've just signed a £17M fullback - who will play regardless of form to justify his fee (like Berbz at United), leaving Arbeloa with no room in the team.
Plus he's got the 'greatest team in the world' coming in for him, who've signed some of the worlds best players.
They're reasons enough without bringing 'Carra-gate' into it, because like I said, I don't think that's a big deal; especially when you consider the above factors.
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Keane wasn't played regardless of form to justify his fee, so why would Johnson.
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I think it suits both parties to an extent and isn't the case of 'one or the other'.
Rafa clearly wants fullbacks who can contribute more over the half-way line, so maybe Rafa wouldn't seek to improve on Arbeloa anyway. I do think, however, that Johnson was prioritised in terms of timing - and perhaps funding - because of Arbeloa's effectively forced his hand.
'Cos like Ryan says, his departure looks pretty ominous
Rafa clearly wants fullbacks who can contribute more over the half-way line, so maybe Rafa wouldn't seek to improve on Arbeloa anyway. I do think, however, that Johnson was prioritised in terms of timing - and perhaps funding - because of Arbeloa's effectively forced his hand.
'Cos like Ryan says, his departure looks pretty ominous
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