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What constitutes a red card these days?

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I'm not really sure whether it was a red card or not (who knows these days? etc) but surely the much more important point is that it was no worse than Evans's, so we shouldn't have been a man down either way.

This. And if it *was* a red, Van Persil should have gone later in the game if Halsey was going to be consistent.
 
Hugely disappointed in Halsey today. He's normally such a sensible bloke but he went mental today.
 
If Shelvey was a red card offence then Evans should have gone too. Played ok today but its hard to beat a referee
 
The same kind of problem will happen again against the bluenoses unless Rodgers really works hard with the players. Gerrard has acted like a gullible loon in the past in this kind of big game and invited refs to reach for the red card. You just can't make it easy for them.
 
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And as usual, Ginsoak says the opposite and gets away without anyone pointing out what a lying git he is.
 
Ive just got in and watched it.
I can see why he got sent off.

Hes a dumb cunt who is lucky not to be sent off more than he does.
 
Disagree, he was facing Evans
Forget I spoke mate, ive just read the other thread. I see the sites in full on conspiracy and paranoi mode.
I'll nip off out.
Probably have a look next time we get a decision or two we shouldnt have got.
 
Forget I spoke mate, ive just read the other thread. I see the sites in full on conspiracy and paranoi mode.
I'll nip off out.
Probably have a look next time we get a decision or two we shouldnt have got.

It's got fuck all to do with conspiracy. I've said Shelvey should have gone and I've also said Evans should have gone. You said Halsey couldn't see and I disagree with that. I've just watched a replay of the incident and he had a good enough view. I don't see what your problem is with that.
 
It's got fuck all to do with conspiracy. I've said Shelvey should have gone and I've also said Evans should have gone. You said Halsey couldn't see and I disagree with that. I've just watched a replay of the incident and he had a good enough view. I don't see what your problem is with that.
Im not talking about your post mate.
I just realise this will end in me arguing with people about the MEGAPOWERS fergie wields over the FA, Refs, The government etc.
And I cant be arsed.
 
Im not talking about your post mate.
I just realise this will end in me arguing with people about the MEGAPOWERS fergie wields over the FA, Refs, The government etc.
And I cant be arsed.

Oh god, no. I wasn't serious when I said Halsey was on a payroll y'know. He was fucking shocking today and completely inconsistent though. Doesn't stop Fergie being a manipulating cunt though with his comments - he's very good at it and a lying twat as well.
 
I have to be honest and say I wouldnt argue with the red for Shelvey. But I'd like to know why Evans and VP didnt receive the same treatment. If Halsey watches the video of that match and is honest with himself, then he will say that he got some very important decisions wrong.

Yep, and then David Luiz yesterday. Consistency please referees.
 
Oh god, no. I wasn't serious when I said Halsey was on a payroll y'know. He was fucking shocking today and completely inconsistent though. Doesn't stop Fergie being a manipulating cunt though with his comments - he's very good at it and a lying twat as well.

This. When this subject comes up Oncy's invariably to be found parroting the word "conspiracy", when he himself is just about the only person who's ever said that. No way is it as organised as that. It doesn't need to be.
 
This. When this subject comes up Oncy's invariably to be found parroting the word "conspiracy", when he himself is just about the only person who's ever said that. No way is it as organised as that. It doesn't need to be.

Influential is probably the word, and i fuckin loathe people saying we are paranoid.
 
This. When this subject comes up Oncy's invariably to be found parroting the word "conspiracy", when he himself is just about the only person who's ever said that. No way is it as organised as that. It doesn't need to be.

Suspicious of their influence.
He makes the comment, they get the outcome.
Turned on its head by someone meant to be impartial.
Halsey isnt even trying to hide it.
Its either inept or corrupt.
Halsey was either on drugs or someone else payroll.
He did it to cheat them out of it.

Just a few comments from ONE single page on here JJ.
Typical of our support. And a bit tragic.

And this is why i didnt want to do this.
Because im not up for spats anymore.

If you want to think im bandying conspiracy about then thats fine.
Ive no reason to carry this on.
 
Is it fuck tragic, and i'm actually really shocked, angered and frustrated that u feel the need to slate that.
 
I've said I wasn't serious about the payroll thing you fucking div
Maybe EVERYONE is joking mate.
That makes me the asshole I guess.

Coz i thought we failed to take our chances and didnt get the rub of the green with the big decisions. And lost.
 
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