Your choice of manager 2.0
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I can't take Klopp off the list, there is no option for that
I can't help feel that we shouldn't go back. I think the issue is we are missing all of the things that Klopp did give us, the unity, the fight, etc. We lack that at the moment. That said, Klopp was not without his flaws and he could be frustrating, many of the issues now with Slot's team were all too apparent when Klopp was here, particularly relating to the highline and how badly it is getting more and more exposed. His blind spot with Trent, and so on.
Would he be as good now? Who knows, but we need to think about someone who has the potential to have longevity with us, we like dynasty's and we have a certain "type" that have to understand the Liverpool way and the class associated with it. Slot has said some good things along the way, but it's almost scripted, when he's had to talk about difficult subjects surrounding the team and it's individual performers, he's smacked of someone who is well out of his depth. Rafa and Klopp had that air of class about them (not to say they didn't have their moments with players, but generally they exuded class).
Host of options on the table, either now or in the summer, probably even better ones than when we went for Slot.
1) Klopp as interim, with the option to stay longer depending on circumstances.
1) Klopp as interim, with the option to stay longer depending on circumstances.
- Alonso, provided he does not move to a back five. There would be similar bumps along the way. That is normal for younger managers. I also think he would eventually tire of the drama at Madrid. Timings may not work out, so it seems unlikely, but maybe in the summer if things go to shit for him
- Iraola - I like him and his football, and the connection to Hughes could make him a good fit. Bournemouth to Liverpool is a massive step up, though.
- Tuchel. He is a bit odd, but I rate him. With supportive owners and a strong structure, it could work. Would have to be post WC, though.
- De Zerbi - Yeah, rate him highly. I've always felt his methods would become even more effective with better players. Pep spoke in awe of what his Brighton team were doing, and whilst he is a snivelling little dog fucker, when he's speaking about football, I do listen.
- Naglesmann is a wild card. Similar to Tuchel, it's a post-WC opportunity. The Bayern sacking was pretty harsh, but it's something all managers need to happen to them. Bayern was a political clusterfuck at the time with delusions they should be winning the CL every year, so I tend not to pay much attention.
Sorry it was you who chose other!I want us to go for someone completely unknown in the world of football. Hell, he might not even have anything to do with professional football.
So I picked Iroala.
It's either him or Benny.
I don't think of Klopp as a permanent solution; someone to navigate this season.
I agree with you, though. Every time we are in trouble, there will be calls for Klopp, and it will be impossible for any young manager to compete with that. We might start becoming a less attractive proposition. Of course, Klopp is only 58, not old for a manager. If he decides he has the energy for another 5 years, then it is a different proposition.
I cannot think of anyone else, though. Klopp and Rafa were natural fits because of their CVs and personalities.
Outside of Enrique, nobody in that list fits us. Yeah, Zidane, Xavi, and Ancelotti have impressive CVs, but you know they won't quite "fit" us. Their successes are with superclubs. Same concern for Enrique.
Though for Zidane, maybe the wages will be less, as he can save on mortgage by finally moving into his house in the Wirral.
Last May's report (some have since taken on new roles while others like Michel has flattered to deceive). Hoeness might be a black horse.
(https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5441110/2024/05/20/liverpool-arne-slot-manager-inside-story/)
While impressed by his record, Edwards and Hughes had doubts about Amorim’s compatibility with the Liverpool job specifically.
They were unconvinced that his preference for a three-man central defence — shared by Alonso at Leverkusen, incidentally — would suit many of the players he would be working with. But more significant was a nagging concern about Amorim’s playing style. Sporting may have scored 96 goals in 34 league matches this season, but theirs is regarded as a slower style that is less front-foot — both in and out of possession.
There were similar conclusions about De Zerbi at Brighton and Germany coach Julian Nagelsmann. Like Amorim, De Zerbi was on a theoretical shortlist but not one of the first names on it. Playing style and compatibility with Liverpool were again considered to be a factor.
Others who were discussed briefly included Iraola, whose Bournemouth contract had been due to expire in 2025 (he signed a new one last week), and Newcastle United’s Eddie Howe, having both worked under Hughes at Bournemouth, together with Stuttgart coach Sebastian Hoeness (whose data scores were closely aligned with Klopp’s, and who had many admirers at Liverpool) and Michel, who has enjoyed a superb season at Girona in La Liga.
Inter Milan’s Simone Inzaghi (a well-respected coach whose lack of English was potentially problematic) and Lille’s Paulo Fonseca (now interesting AC Milan) were also considered, but they were never seriously in the frame.
Bayern’s outgoing coach Thomas Tuchel, who succeeded Klopp at Dortmund in 2015 and won the Champions League with Chelsea in 2021, was not in contention. Indeed, many of the names linked to the job were either never in the frame due to being incompatible with Liverpool’s criteria or were simply pushing their candidatures.
The claims of Ernesto Valverde, however, were regarded by Liverpool as much stronger. The 60-year-old was a leading contender, having won two league titles at Barcelona, three championships in Greece with Olympiacos and recently ended Athletic Bilbao’s 40-year wait for a major trophy by winning the Copa del Rey last month. He would also have fitted the ‘brave’ ‘criteria laid out by Hughes and Edwards.
Luciano Spalletti, 65, was also of significant interest. Last season, he guided Napoli to their first Serie A title since 1990, but he had only been appointed to manage the Italy national team last August. The fact that both men were seriously considered, however, suggested that age was not a major consideration in Liverpool’s thinking.
(https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5441110/2024/05/20/liverpool-arne-slot-manager-inside-story/)
While impressed by his record, Edwards and Hughes had doubts about Amorim’s compatibility with the Liverpool job specifically.
They were unconvinced that his preference for a three-man central defence — shared by Alonso at Leverkusen, incidentally — would suit many of the players he would be working with. But more significant was a nagging concern about Amorim’s playing style. Sporting may have scored 96 goals in 34 league matches this season, but theirs is regarded as a slower style that is less front-foot — both in and out of possession.
There were similar conclusions about De Zerbi at Brighton and Germany coach Julian Nagelsmann. Like Amorim, De Zerbi was on a theoretical shortlist but not one of the first names on it. Playing style and compatibility with Liverpool were again considered to be a factor.
Others who were discussed briefly included Iraola, whose Bournemouth contract had been due to expire in 2025 (he signed a new one last week), and Newcastle United’s Eddie Howe, having both worked under Hughes at Bournemouth, together with Stuttgart coach Sebastian Hoeness (whose data scores were closely aligned with Klopp’s, and who had many admirers at Liverpool) and Michel, who has enjoyed a superb season at Girona in La Liga.
Inter Milan’s Simone Inzaghi (a well-respected coach whose lack of English was potentially problematic) and Lille’s Paulo Fonseca (now interesting AC Milan) were also considered, but they were never seriously in the frame.
Bayern’s outgoing coach Thomas Tuchel, who succeeded Klopp at Dortmund in 2015 and won the Champions League with Chelsea in 2021, was not in contention. Indeed, many of the names linked to the job were either never in the frame due to being incompatible with Liverpool’s criteria or were simply pushing their candidatures.
The claims of Ernesto Valverde, however, were regarded by Liverpool as much stronger. The 60-year-old was a leading contender, having won two league titles at Barcelona, three championships in Greece with Olympiacos and recently ended Athletic Bilbao’s 40-year wait for a major trophy by winning the Copa del Rey last month. He would also have fitted the ‘brave’ ‘criteria laid out by Hughes and Edwards.
Luciano Spalletti, 65, was also of significant interest. Last season, he guided Napoli to their first Serie A title since 1990, but he had only been appointed to manage the Italy national team last August. The fact that both men were seriously considered, however, suggested that age was not a major consideration in Liverpool’s thinking.
We should team up - I could provide the lorry.
I've got no idea who we should get. Pretty wary of Tuchel and Nagelsmann though.
Also, inclined to agree that perhaps it's best to leave things as they are with Klopp - Liverpool legend. I'd hate for him to come back and have to watch him struggle / lose with this lot.
Also, inclined to agree that perhaps it's best to leave things as they are with Klopp - Liverpool legend. I'd hate for him to come back and have to watch him struggle / lose with this lot.
Maybe not him, he's Aussie Arne.
We should have a cheeky punt and land. Zidane.
Failing that Iraola
Failing that Iraola
Why would Poch come in as an interim manager? Glasner would make us defensively more solid
Ribena's all round!
Klopp. Just Klopp.
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