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[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40683.msg1124246#msg1124246 date=1277123022]
It's all too simple to shit on Terry, cause he's an easy target chav. Whilst it's not exactly smart to 'spill the beans' to the circling media vultures, he's got a point that it's also
England and the Player's World Cup too - and if the system is not working, something needs to be said.
The margin of error in these tournaments is so slim, without addressing problems immediately, chances are they will be heading home pretty sharp.
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you're confused about this point. for liverpool the system, tactics and team selections were at fault. but england is different. don't let liverpool's season bias that fact. the reason england are struggling is because the players just aren't up to it.
yet john terry is so arraogant and deluded that he is unable to accept that. no, instead he choses to believe some ridiculous fantasy that the manager, the tactics, the fans the team selections, the traning regime is all at fault. and john terry is the hero and englands saviour trying to change the faulty system. don't make me puke. don't you realise what he is saying? john terry and his team cannot be at fault, it is rather the rest of the world that must be fault... which is a symptom of insanity isn't it.
capello is right about them having mental issues.
It's all too simple to shit on Terry, cause he's an easy target chav. Whilst it's not exactly smart to 'spill the beans' to the circling media vultures, he's got a point that it's also
England and the Player's World Cup too - and if the system is not working, something needs to be said.
The margin of error in these tournaments is so slim, without addressing problems immediately, chances are they will be heading home pretty sharp.
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you're confused about this point. for liverpool the system, tactics and team selections were at fault. but england is different. don't let liverpool's season bias that fact. the reason england are struggling is because the players just aren't up to it.
yet john terry is so arraogant and deluded that he is unable to accept that. no, instead he choses to believe some ridiculous fantasy that the manager, the tactics, the fans the team selections, the traning regime is all at fault. and john terry is the hero and englands saviour trying to change the faulty system. don't make me puke. don't you realise what he is saying? john terry and his team cannot be at fault, it is rather the rest of the world that must be fault... which is a symptom of insanity isn't it.
capello is right about them having mental issues.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40683.msg1124246#msg1124246 date=1277123022]
It's all too simple to shit on Terry, cause he's an easy target chav. Whilst it's not exactly smart to 'spill the beans' to the circling media vultures, he's got a point that it's also
England and the Player's World Cup too - and if the system is not working, something needs to be said.
The margin of error in these tournaments is so slim, without addressing problems immediately, chances are they will be heading home pretty sharp.
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There are ways of addressing problems though. One is to show a bit of class and do things behind closed doors, the other is to be a cunt, like John Terry.
It's all too simple to shit on Terry, cause he's an easy target chav. Whilst it's not exactly smart to 'spill the beans' to the circling media vultures, he's got a point that it's also
England and the Player's World Cup too - and if the system is not working, something needs to be said.
The margin of error in these tournaments is so slim, without addressing problems immediately, chances are they will be heading home pretty sharp.
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There are ways of addressing problems though. One is to show a bit of class and do things behind closed doors, the other is to be a cunt, like John Terry.
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=40683.msg1124249#msg1124249 date=1277123475]
Barry at centre back and Terry on the bench hopefully
Capello has got to show who is boss.
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Great idea. Cut your nose to spite your face.....
You do realize that England will likely be going out if they don't win?
Barry at centre back and Terry on the bench hopefully
Capello has got to show who is boss.
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Great idea. Cut your nose to spite your face.....
You do realize that England will likely be going out if they don't win?
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=40683.msg1124249#msg1124249 date=1277123475]
Barry at centre back and Terry on the bench hopefully
Capello has got to show who is boss.
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Barry at centre back? Are you insane?
Actually, don't answer that question.
Barry at centre back and Terry on the bench hopefully
Capello has got to show who is boss.
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Barry at centre back? Are you insane?
Actually, don't answer that question.
I'd have wanted Dawson in there, but I bet it'll be Upson, in which case one of our CBs will be Motormouth Terry, the other will be not good enough for international football IMO and they both prefer to play left-side CB, so one of them's going to have to play an unfamiliar role.
Oh, sugar.
Oh, sugar.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40683.msg1124246#msg1124246 date=1277123022]
It's all too simple to shit on Terry, cause he's an easy target chav. Whilst it's not exactly smart to 'spill the beans' to the circling media vultures, he's got a point that it's also
England and the Player's World Cup too - and if the system is not working, something needs to be said.
The margin of error in these tournaments is so slim, without addressing problems immediately, chances are they will be heading home pretty sharp.
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Addressing them to the press and addressing them behind closed doors are completely different things and Terry knew that, it was more than just ill advised. To suggest that it is the "players" world cup is true but they wouldnt call it England duty if it wasn't just that. There are many many people at home who would happily swap places.
The damage to his ego over the fall out from his own adultery should not be used to derail the team mid tournament, that is not the action of a leader, leaders should not have self interest as their number 1 priority.
In doing what he has done he has shown everyone just what a piece of work he is, and lets not get to thinking this is some superstar player we are talking about, we are talking about a highly commited somewhat technically limited slowish centre back who has quite clearly lost a little bit of perspective.
It's all too simple to shit on Terry, cause he's an easy target chav. Whilst it's not exactly smart to 'spill the beans' to the circling media vultures, he's got a point that it's also
England and the Player's World Cup too - and if the system is not working, something needs to be said.
The margin of error in these tournaments is so slim, without addressing problems immediately, chances are they will be heading home pretty sharp.
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Addressing them to the press and addressing them behind closed doors are completely different things and Terry knew that, it was more than just ill advised. To suggest that it is the "players" world cup is true but they wouldnt call it England duty if it wasn't just that. There are many many people at home who would happily swap places.
The damage to his ego over the fall out from his own adultery should not be used to derail the team mid tournament, that is not the action of a leader, leaders should not have self interest as their number 1 priority.
In doing what he has done he has shown everyone just what a piece of work he is, and lets not get to thinking this is some superstar player we are talking about, we are talking about a highly commited somewhat technically limited slowish centre back who has quite clearly lost a little bit of perspective.
Very good post.
His actions now have made Capello's position almost untenable.
Even if Capello was planning on going back to Rooney as a lone striker on Weds, if he does it now, it will look like he's succumbed to pressure by Terry.
If he resists to prove a point, then we could be stuck with an unhappy team who give up before they start (pathetic as that attitude would be).
The best thing Capello could do would be to swallow his pride, go 4-2-3-1 for the Slovenia game. If we win then great, if not, then hang Terry out to dry. Ideally, if we win, get all the way to the final, announce Terry is going to be captain, and then drop him.
Even if Capello was planning on going back to Rooney as a lone striker on Weds, if he does it now, it will look like he's succumbed to pressure by Terry.
If he resists to prove a point, then we could be stuck with an unhappy team who give up before they start (pathetic as that attitude would be).
The best thing Capello could do would be to swallow his pride, go 4-2-3-1 for the Slovenia game. If we win then great, if not, then hang Terry out to dry. Ideally, if we win, get all the way to the final, announce Terry is going to be captain, and then drop him.
Or just drop Terry and win without him. Let the twat sit on the bench being 'a big personality'.
No offence but did anyone actually hear what he said?
BBC Sport - Football - World Cup 2010: John Terry news conference in full
That article is absolutely shocking, total crap. I'm glad I don't read the papers...
BBC Sport - Football - World Cup 2010: John Terry news conference in full
That article is absolutely shocking, total crap. I'm glad I don't read the papers...
Yeah, I must admit when I saw the video I couldn't really see what all the fuss was about. Maybe we're talking about two different interviews though. The print journalists are usually done separately from the TV and radio journalists, aren't they?
As I understand it he did two or three separate interviews.
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=40683.msg1124363#msg1124363 date=1277141882]
As I understand it he did two or three separate interviews.
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Yeah, it was reported like that this morning.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40683.msg1124335#msg1124335 date=1277137072]
Or just drop Terry and win without him. Let the twat sit on the bench being 'a big personality'.
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^This^
As I understand it he did two or three separate interviews.
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Yeah, it was reported like that this morning.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40683.msg1124335#msg1124335 date=1277137072]
Or just drop Terry and win without him. Let the twat sit on the bench being 'a big personality'.
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^This^
[quote author=kule link=topic=40683.msg1124346#msg1124346 date=1277138729]
No offence but did anyone actually hear what he said?
BBC Sport - Football - World Cup 2010: John Terry news conference in full
That article is absolutely shocking, total crap. I'm glad I don't read the papers...
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it is not about what he said in that interview. he then done a separate interview to the written press where he said all the things they are talking about namely when he listed the 9 players he was chatting to ETC ETC
Now Capello is fighting back, why did he feel the need to do this. Hardly helping morale ETC
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/fifaworldcup/news/capellolaysdownthelawtoterry/#intcmp=783526_123_1
No offence but did anyone actually hear what he said?
BBC Sport - Football - World Cup 2010: John Terry news conference in full
That article is absolutely shocking, total crap. I'm glad I don't read the papers...
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it is not about what he said in that interview. he then done a separate interview to the written press where he said all the things they are talking about namely when he listed the 9 players he was chatting to ETC ETC
Now Capello is fighting back, why did he feel the need to do this. Hardly helping morale ETC
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/fifaworldcup/news/capellolaysdownthelawtoterry/#intcmp=783526_123_1
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=40683.msg1124249#msg1124249 date=1277123475]
Barry at centre back and Terry on the bench hopefully
Capello has got to show who is boss.
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Oh FFS. Barry at CB? Are you fucking mad? Actually don't answer that.
If he decides not to play Terry, then he should at least play Upson or Dawson dependent who is not playing instead of Carrag...
Actually what's the point of trying to reason with you.
Barry at centre back and Terry on the bench hopefully
Capello has got to show who is boss.
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Oh FFS. Barry at CB? Are you fucking mad? Actually don't answer that.
If he decides not to play Terry, then he should at least play Upson or Dawson dependent who is not playing instead of Carrag...
Actually what's the point of trying to reason with you.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=40683.msg1124397#msg1124397 date=1277146840]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40683.msg1124144#msg1124144 date=1277107815]
I pledge here and now, in front of my peers and the Lord almighty, that I will support England for the rest of the tournament if they send Terry home.
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Tempting, but no deal.
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Not even if we apologise for the 800 years of rape and pillage?
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40683.msg1124144#msg1124144 date=1277107815]
I pledge here and now, in front of my peers and the Lord almighty, that I will support England for the rest of the tournament if they send Terry home.
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Tempting, but no deal.
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Not even if we apologise for the 800 years of rape and pillage?
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=40683.msg1124405#msg1124405 date=1277147134]
Throw in the famine too and we'll start talking
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Was that our fault too? That Cromwell chap again?
Ok its fashionable to do deals with the Irish now so why not. I'll throw in the famine too.
XXL England top is in the post for Weds. We expect picture as part of the deal. Smiling is essential in the pictures or the deal is off!
Throw in the famine too and we'll start talking
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Was that our fault too? That Cromwell chap again?
Ok its fashionable to do deals with the Irish now so why not. I'll throw in the famine too.
XXL England top is in the post for Weds. We expect picture as part of the deal. Smiling is essential in the pictures or the deal is off!
You'd wonder whether he was using the royal "we", till you remember he's also as thick as a donkey's donger.
Welcome to the forum BTW.
Welcome to the forum BTW.
"This is the big mistake, this is the very big mistake," Capello told ITV1.
Clearly, Capello is incredulous that his authority should be challenged by a player - his captain until he stripped him of the honour in February over well-publicised personal issues - in a public forum.
"My door is always open. If people want to speak with me they can speak with me," added the Italian.
"Every time we have a meeting I ask the captain, problems? You want to say something? Never.
"Then I read yesterday that John Terry said this, I don't understand why he doesn't speak with me.
"When you speak you have to speak privately, not with the media.
"I think he is more disappointed. I know sometimes players want to speak more with you (the media) than with the other players.
"But the mistake is that you have to speak with the players, with me, with the dressing room."
It has already been suggested Terry was only acting in exactly the same manner he is used to at Chelsea.
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Clearly, Capello is incredulous that his authority should be challenged by a player - his captain until he stripped him of the honour in February over well-publicised personal issues - in a public forum.
"My door is always open. If people want to speak with me they can speak with me," added the Italian.
"Every time we have a meeting I ask the captain, problems? You want to say something? Never.
"Then I read yesterday that John Terry said this, I don't understand why he doesn't speak with me.
"When you speak you have to speak privately, not with the media.
"I think he is more disappointed. I know sometimes players want to speak more with you (the media) than with the other players.
"But the mistake is that you have to speak with the players, with me, with the dressing room."
It has already been suggested Terry was only acting in exactly the same manner he is used to at Chelsea.
Football365
[quote author=keniget link=topic=40683.msg1124492#msg1124492 date=1277154964]
Pity Capello didn't take his own advice though, isn't it?
What a mess this tournament has become. Just recall them and be done with it - disgraceful antics.
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have a little faith. if one of the players can score an individual wonder goal, then they'll get through. and in the knock out stages even a dumb cunt like john terry will realise england are underdogs and maybe like i was saying they will start to work harder
Pity Capello didn't take his own advice though, isn't it?
What a mess this tournament has become. Just recall them and be done with it - disgraceful antics.
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have a little faith. if one of the players can score an individual wonder goal, then they'll get through. and in the knock out stages even a dumb cunt like john terry will realise england are underdogs and maybe like i was saying they will start to work harder
what really fucking infuriates me all season long we've had to watch a hugely talented liverpool team reduced to working hard and fucking wasting their talent.
and now, now a fucking shit england team do the fucking opposite, overestimate their talent and fail to work hard enough. its a fucking joke. fucking retarded cunt footballers and managers. all of them.
and now, now a fucking shit england team do the fucking opposite, overestimate their talent and fail to work hard enough. its a fucking joke. fucking retarded cunt footballers and managers. all of them.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=40683.msg1124397#msg1124397 date=1277146840]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40683.msg1124144#msg1124144 date=1277107815]
I pledge here and now, in front of my peers and the Lord almighty, that I will support England for the rest of the tournament if they send Terry home.
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Tempting, but no deal.
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to be fair I wouldn't have. Sorry God.
Sorry my peers.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40683.msg1124144#msg1124144 date=1277107815]
I pledge here and now, in front of my peers and the Lord almighty, that I will support England for the rest of the tournament if they send Terry home.
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Tempting, but no deal.
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to be fair I wouldn't have. Sorry God.
Sorry my peers.
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