Windbag Wields the Axe
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Some serious arse licking there lad.
I think people have always, generally, misinterpreted what the tag was for. It was for having a large amount of supporters who know their shit, being one of the most atmospheric crowds for big games and those fabulous European nights and generally just having a lot more character and charisma than your average fanbase.
Of course, everyone's got their dickheads, so it's inevitable that filters through on the terraces and on here. Truth is aswell, we've been spoiled over the years, so criticism and impatience is something that's reared it's head on the back of a break in consistent success. Add a new generation who've grown up with 'other' sides being the biggest clubs in the league and the consistent contenders for silverware and it's left us a bit short of where we once where. Just like on the pitch.
Heh I can sympathize with Macca reaching the end of his tether - this whole being shit does make you want to rant at the world every now and again.
I felt the same way with Skully and one or two others last season... I have my limits with the whole positive outlook thing and I find the gallows humour a more enjoyable.
I felt the same way with Skully and one or two others last season... I have my limits with the whole positive outlook thing and I find the gallows humour a more enjoyable.
Yeah. If we lowered the ambitions that easy, animosity shouldn't be a big issue either!!
I understand the point about Rodgers too, I'd rather look at what's happening on the pitch though and that's where I can see alot of promise.
I was as gutted as Doc and Macca over Kenny, he generally talked the talk and gave us a bit of grace back, but on the pitch and in the transfer market last season we failed. Rodgers has made some ill-advised comments, but he's also shown a good solid stern approach which I think we've missed too. Once thing that really grates me though is his ideal that footballers are cogs (a bit like Rafa) and that ego's shouldn't come into it and everyone should be treated equally and not as superstars. And then he shows us around his extensive living room whom's centre piece is a massive canvas of himself.
I get the irritation.
It goes back a long way, Mark, doesn't it? Only recently Hansen was saying how, just after winning the last league title, the players felt flat and the crowd seemed subdued, as it had become so much 'business as usual' much of the old atmosphere had dissipated. Then the complacency turned slowly into frustration and anger as the wins dried up. The one isolated aspect that still can be appreciated is the odd reception for ex-players and opposing teams that have really played well, but even that surprises where it once seemed perfectly natural. I really do think, though, that resisting the nostalgia is important, if only for the mental health of some fans. I don't want to look back, but it's become the line of least resistance. Everyone should be focussing coldly and calmly on the here and now.
RELEGATION super RELEGATION, RELEGATION the game we like to play!
When I go the game, and mostly on here, I don't really meet anyone who likes the discuss the good old days, it's all about the current team. So I think this implication of being wrapped in suffocating nostalgia is nonsense. It's OK to warmly remember good times in our history though at the same time as long as you're not obsessed with it or grimly hanging on in the thought that this history makes you a decent team somehow. We're not. We've a shit team, stupid owners, an unproven manager and some good fans and some really shit ones.
I didn't mean people TALK about the past at a game. I meant too many of them arrive with this perspective, constantly puffed up by the culture industry, that the LFC of now deserves the same status as the ones of yesteryear. All of this 'We're Liverpool!' rubbish as if that's supposed be some special incantation that summons up the old success and respect. Look at the team, look at the squad, look at the position in the league and stop reacting as though it's a top four club.
Agreed
Again, most people I meet don't have that attitude any more and are firmly aware of how mediocre we are. We may be a big club in terms of fan base and income but that's where it ends. The rest is mediocrity although there is nothing wrong in aspiring for some of our former glories. I actually think those days will never come back now and a steady decline is inevitable.
Because we've been steadily declining for years and I see the same mismanagement of the club and poor signings occurring to the point we can no longer rely on our name as a big club to actually attract the right level of talent. Thus said problems will be compounded and decline will continue. Now your turn
Yeah, this is how I feel.
It can be overbearing when comparisons are made to current sides - everyone wants the next player to some through and be the new Rush, Gerrard, Owen etc. That's something I always find when talking to (some) old timers. People might talk about the current side, but I do find comparisons are often made to how things were done, what players we did have, etc.
A guy at the game a few weeks ago was telling me how Jack Robinson is going to be a great left back, probably the best since Rob Jones had a stint there. Then spent the game roaring at him every five minutes, like an over passionate father stood on the side lines living his life through his kid. Funny like, but like I said, everyone's got their dickhead fans.
Who gives a hairy fuck what you think Rael?
I'm not a Calvinist.
I can't tell you how much it's upset me seeing Macca and Sunny squabbling like this. Macca is a true gent and a real asset to this site, as is Sunny, who incidentally also has one of the stiffest penises on Merseyside. Please grow up.
Only when he see you...
Look, I could spend thirty minutes or so discussing how many variables are involved, how each concatenation of them could possibly lead to something good, bad or indifferent, and I could speculate on the many things that would need to happen to create further sustained success. But would you really care? The simple point is I'm not the one regarding anything, positive or negative, as 'inevitable'. I must say it's a bit suspicious how you've gone from berating me for being negative to being too positive, but I'm sure our little spat today is boring everyone else to tears, and I've told Fabio I'm not going to prolong it, so you say what you like but I'm not continuing with this.
What's the unit of measurement for stiffness?
The Bonk.
Me for instant.. I am a softy. only 4 Bonk at the penis. However my neck is a good 6 bonk and back is also reaching 3 bonk. I am sooo glad it is weekend!!!
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