Brendan Rodgers running out of time as air of resignation engulfs Liverpool
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Tell you what... Go away and win at Chelsea and Goodison and let's think about it
Here he goes again. Repeat the myth that you took over the weakest team in the world? Check (not that eighth is that different to today, is it, except this time I guess it doesn't matter). Repeat the boasts about entertaining the whole of the western world with your football? Check (and tell Barcelona the news). Repeat the claim that the team should have won the league? Check (and why didn't it? Alien laser beams?) And so it goes on. I wish he'd shut it and get on with the job.
Brendan Rodgers would not name names but that did not dilute his point. Rather than slipping away quietly at the end of a difficult week, his message was clear.
Having been pilloried for much of the past month, with his work being dissected on a daily basis, Liverpool’s manager felt the time was right to remind people of his abilities and, more than anything, highlight the campaign he feels is being waged against him.
‘There has been a frenzy, there is no doubt about it, to get me out of here,’ said Rodgers. ‘There is no question about that. Whether that’s a Liverpool hysteria or big club hysteria I am not so sure. The scrutiny here is obviously greater, for me, than any club.
Brendan Rodgers would not name names but that did not dilute his point. Rather than slipping away quietly at the end of a difficult week, his message was clear.
Having been pilloried for much of the past month, with his work being dissected on a daily basis, Liverpool’s manager felt the time was right to remind people of his abilities and, more than anything, highlight the campaign he feels is being waged against him.
‘There has been a frenzy, there is no doubt about it, to get me out of here,’ said Rodgers. ‘There is no question about that. Whether that’s a Liverpool hysteria or big club hysteria I am not so sure. The scrutiny here is obviously greater, for me, than any club.
‘But it is a huge club. As a manager you know that and deal with it. It’s not about proving people wrong. I think I’ve shown in the early stages of my management — without being arrogant — that with a talented group of players I can compete at the top end.
‘There are very short memories in football. The team was eighth when I got here. We built a team to excite people throughout European football that should have won the league.
Then all the good work gets forgotten. The focus has not been on what we have missed but to get me out of the club.’
It was some claim, and, given he has had to contend with frequent stories about Jurgen Klopp and Carlo Ancelotti being linked with his position, he was well within his rights to make it.
But a frenzy? There have been no banners on the Kop asking for his removal, no chants asking for him to go.
Yes, some former players — notably Mark Lawrenson — have said a change should be made but others, like John Barnes, have lent their support.
Rodgers’ point about being deprived of key players is also valid, particularly when you see the difference a fit Daniel Sturridge, scorer of two wonderful goals, made here.
He is wrong, though, if he thinks the criticism has come in isolation.
There have been a number of results over the past 12 months that have ensured his future has been the subject of much discussion and it will take a sequence of sustained improvement to make the noise subside.
With a trip to Goodison Park next, the focus on Rodgers and Liverpool will not go away but if this outpouring is a sign that he has the bit between the teeth, then it will have served a purpose.
‘I’m fine,’ he insisted. ‘You know what comes from leadership and being a manager and the scrutiny.
I’ve never got too carried away when we’ve won, and not too disappointed when we lost. I have a hunger to succeed. There have been a lot of things going against us, but we stick together.’
After James Milner opened the scoring with just over a minute gone it should have been a cruise but Liverpool’s brittle state allowed Villa to get back into the game with two goals from Rudy Gestede, the second a fine header.
‘Collectively we’re not gelling,’ said Villa manager Tim Sherwood. ‘We’re doing it in spasms and it’s not good enough.’
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Pretty much nothing in that post makes sense. Read it back to yourself.
I think this should be referred to as a "Hagueism".
Oh look.... Red Ninja's just had a Hagueism.
Or maybe it should be a "Haguasm".
Maybe someone can do a poll.
But I'm probably the cleverest person on the site and you're below average.
You should have more respect for your betters.
In Larne he was considered a genius.
Based on the evidence of the last few weeks I think we have a few of them on here. Rodgers is like oxygen to some of our little gang.
I learn from you every day, you intellectual colossus.
Yeah. Horrible, but great. 
The Irish education system has a lot to answer for.
Before I did my final year of secondary school I took a nationwide aptitude test to see what I should study at Uni.
The results put me in the 99th percentile for learning ability and intelligence across Ireland.
Was told I could go into any profession I wanted.
Obviously a flawed algorithm must have been used.
It's probably true in Oz though.
Have you ever been to Larne?
They were looking at the results upside down
I stayed in an orphanage one night in Larne when I was about 8
I'm sure it was a very pleasant experience...
Jermaine Jenas:
[article=https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/exclusive--jermaine-jenas---brendan-rodgers-is-the-right-man-for-liverpool-but-enemies-are-plotting-against-him---121653020.html]When Brendan Rodgers talks about a "campaign" to get him out of Liverpool, I have some sympathy for him. The Liverpool manager said after Saturday's win against Aston Villa that "there is a group of people that don’t want me to be here ", although he didn't name names.
I think the people he is referring to, in a subtle way, are various influential Liverpool ex-pros who have damned him - more than anything - with their silence.
When the pressure has built on Rodgers in recent weeks, he hasn't got any help. I haven't heard any of Liverpool's ex-players - and there are many distinguished names whose opinions have clout on Merseyside - coming out to defend him.
It creates a sense that people are simply sitting back and waiting for him to get the chop. If was it Kenny Dalglish, for instance, I'm sure we'd hear those familiar voices saying he needs more time, or that he's the right man for the job. But Rodgers seems to be on his own.
It says a lot that the only person I've heard coming out in support of Rodgers in recent weeks is a rival manager - Tim Sherwood - when he said his counterpart "could be managing Real Madrid".
I believe Rodgers has done a very good job at Anfield. Some may disagree, especially with regards to his signings (although we don't knows exactly how much control he had over each one) and there's no denying that last season was a disaster. But when he had Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge at their peak, he showed what he is capable of, despite falling just short of winning the league.
Rodgers remains one of our most progressive coaches, and he has done things the right way, coming through the ranks at Chelsea, Watford and Swansea. Even if he doesn't survive at Liverpool, I can see things working out for him over the next five or 10 years, wherever he goes. The methods he has tried to implement are modern and advanced, maybe too advanced for some.
He's not happy to sit with a certain style or formation. He's well travelled; he speaks fluent Spanish. He could manage anywhere and communicate with all types of players, which is impressive, especially for a British manager. This is almost the next generation of manager we're talking about. Sure, signing Mario Balotelli was a howler, but it was almost as if some people couldn't wait for the Italian to fail so they could use it against Rodgers.
Liverpool Football Club is a monster, and I mean that in a positive way, but right now it's a club that can't attract - or keep - the world's best players. And replacing those players gets harder and harder. Rodgers went from Suarez and Sturridge to Balotelli and Lambert, so it's hardly surprising they weren't as successful on the pitch last season.
I don't think Rodgers's job is under immediate threat, and he has said his only detractors are "outside the club", but the problem he has is that the more that pressure builds, it is bound sooner or later to affect the players. In fact, judging by their current form it already is. They are playing like a team feeling the strain the manager is under. Even when Liverpool were 2-0 up against a struggling Villa side, they still didn't look at all convincing.
The Reds were leading that game within two minutes - the perfect opportunity to go and express themselves - but they just couldn't.
If the manager is under fire, which Rodgers clearly is, that can filter down to the squad. We had a similar situation with Martin Jol at Tottenham. He ended up essentially getting sacked at half-time of a Uefa Cup game against Getafe.
I remembering speaking to him before the game because I was carrying an injury and his face was just blank, as if he was looking right through me. In the weeks leading up to that, you could tell something had changed within him.
It was leaked in the papers that Spurs were speaking to Juande Ramos. We'd seen it, he had obviously seen it, so it was impossible to ignore. As players, we were trying to concentrate on doing our jobs - and we all liked Martin - but there's no doubt it was distracting.
There are people in and around Liverpool who could neutralise a lot of these issues for Rodgers, but they're staying silent. It was always going to be hard to fill Dalglish's shoes in terms of popularity, but it seems that no matter what Rodgers does he is fighting a losing battle because nobody likes him.
Rodgers was onto something good 18 months ago, and it all came crashing down when Suarez left and others followed. His gameplan was destroyed and he had to start again, which is not easy. The difference Sturridge made against Villa was a reminder of just how much Liverpool have been missing. Now that the England striker is back, there aren't many stronger front threes in the league than Sturridge, Coutinho and Benteke.
The least Rodgers deserves is some time with that trio playing together.
The club's owners have stood by him for now, and given him money to spend, when they could easily have sacked him at the end of last season. But what will make Liverpool even stronger is if everyone connected with the club starts pulling in the same direction.[/article]
[article=https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/exclusive--jermaine-jenas---brendan-rodgers-is-the-right-man-for-liverpool-but-enemies-are-plotting-against-him---121653020.html]When Brendan Rodgers talks about a "campaign" to get him out of Liverpool, I have some sympathy for him. The Liverpool manager said after Saturday's win against Aston Villa that "there is a group of people that don’t want me to be here ", although he didn't name names.
I think the people he is referring to, in a subtle way, are various influential Liverpool ex-pros who have damned him - more than anything - with their silence.
When the pressure has built on Rodgers in recent weeks, he hasn't got any help. I haven't heard any of Liverpool's ex-players - and there are many distinguished names whose opinions have clout on Merseyside - coming out to defend him.
It creates a sense that people are simply sitting back and waiting for him to get the chop. If was it Kenny Dalglish, for instance, I'm sure we'd hear those familiar voices saying he needs more time, or that he's the right man for the job. But Rodgers seems to be on his own.
It says a lot that the only person I've heard coming out in support of Rodgers in recent weeks is a rival manager - Tim Sherwood - when he said his counterpart "could be managing Real Madrid".
I believe Rodgers has done a very good job at Anfield. Some may disagree, especially with regards to his signings (although we don't knows exactly how much control he had over each one) and there's no denying that last season was a disaster. But when he had Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge at their peak, he showed what he is capable of, despite falling just short of winning the league.
Rodgers remains one of our most progressive coaches, and he has done things the right way, coming through the ranks at Chelsea, Watford and Swansea. Even if he doesn't survive at Liverpool, I can see things working out for him over the next five or 10 years, wherever he goes. The methods he has tried to implement are modern and advanced, maybe too advanced for some.
He's not happy to sit with a certain style or formation. He's well travelled; he speaks fluent Spanish. He could manage anywhere and communicate with all types of players, which is impressive, especially for a British manager. This is almost the next generation of manager we're talking about. Sure, signing Mario Balotelli was a howler, but it was almost as if some people couldn't wait for the Italian to fail so they could use it against Rodgers.
Liverpool Football Club is a monster, and I mean that in a positive way, but right now it's a club that can't attract - or keep - the world's best players. And replacing those players gets harder and harder. Rodgers went from Suarez and Sturridge to Balotelli and Lambert, so it's hardly surprising they weren't as successful on the pitch last season.
I don't think Rodgers's job is under immediate threat, and he has said his only detractors are "outside the club", but the problem he has is that the more that pressure builds, it is bound sooner or later to affect the players. In fact, judging by their current form it already is. They are playing like a team feeling the strain the manager is under. Even when Liverpool were 2-0 up against a struggling Villa side, they still didn't look at all convincing.
The Reds were leading that game within two minutes - the perfect opportunity to go and express themselves - but they just couldn't.
If the manager is under fire, which Rodgers clearly is, that can filter down to the squad. We had a similar situation with Martin Jol at Tottenham. He ended up essentially getting sacked at half-time of a Uefa Cup game against Getafe.
I remembering speaking to him before the game because I was carrying an injury and his face was just blank, as if he was looking right through me. In the weeks leading up to that, you could tell something had changed within him.
It was leaked in the papers that Spurs were speaking to Juande Ramos. We'd seen it, he had obviously seen it, so it was impossible to ignore. As players, we were trying to concentrate on doing our jobs - and we all liked Martin - but there's no doubt it was distracting.
There are people in and around Liverpool who could neutralise a lot of these issues for Rodgers, but they're staying silent. It was always going to be hard to fill Dalglish's shoes in terms of popularity, but it seems that no matter what Rodgers does he is fighting a losing battle because nobody likes him.
Rodgers was onto something good 18 months ago, and it all came crashing down when Suarez left and others followed. His gameplan was destroyed and he had to start again, which is not easy. The difference Sturridge made against Villa was a reminder of just how much Liverpool have been missing. Now that the England striker is back, there aren't many stronger front threes in the league than Sturridge, Coutinho and Benteke.
The least Rodgers deserves is some time with that trio playing together.
The club's owners have stood by him for now, and given him money to spend, when they could easily have sacked him at the end of last season. But what will make Liverpool even stronger is if everyone connected with the club starts pulling in the same direction.[/article]
What a shite article that is. A million holes in the every argument.
If only we'd have had sturridge against Stoke, though. We might have only lost 6-3.
This is no doubt what Brendan hoped would be argued, but it's bollocks. Jamie Redknapp has urged FSG and fans to keep faith in him, Aldo has said the same, Molby has said the same, Carra has said the same, Fairclough has said the same, Jimmy Case has said the same, and so has Gary Gillespie, and so has John Barnes. That's a fair list. Some of them have admitted, when asked, that he'll need to start getting results, but that's always the case. It's a crap argument.
The idea that mere silence in the media from ex-pros could constitute a "campaign" against Rodgers, and the statement that "He's not happy to sit with a certain style or formation", really are the sheerest piffle. Jenas does actually have a bit more between the ears than a lot of players, but he was obviously short of stuff to write about with a deadline looming.
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