Bye bye Kenny (part 2)!!!!!

[Wizardry]

I see it as giving him absolutely no excuses. You fuck it up from here and there's no one else to blame so you're out the door.

I've got my fingers crossed anyway.

😵

It must have been absolute hell for you in Rafa's final season, mate.

Everybody pointing out his myriad of flaws, failings and mistakes; calling for him to go while you did your best to promote him - and all in vain. Will you feel justified - or perhaps even recompensed - if the owners step in to remove Kenny?


I certainly understand the disappointment in Kenny's reign this year; it's not like he hasn't made some bizzare selections and looked utterly bereft of an effective game plan. That said, how did you feel about our league performances under him last season? His form in the Europa was nothing flash but the league looked very positive to me as the laying of groundwork for future seasons.

 

[Ryan]

You're under some illusion if you think/thought I promoted Rafa as immune to criticism, especially in his final season Wiz.

You've mentioned this before too, from memory. And I've correct you before too, from memory.

I was happy for a change, and think I even suggested a few weeks back in some 'Rafa back?' thread that it was pointless as that ship had sailed entirely. I don't want him back. Nor was I that distraught that he was shoo'd out the door in the first place.

I do want Dalglish out though. I think he's fucking rubbish, and I'm not about to be fooled by some hyperbole from him over a fucking Carling Cup. Alex McLeish won the one before him you know.

 

[Wizardry]

I don't know which memory base you're accessing mate but time to get some better software security or something. You were like a one man vigilante in Rafa's last year and we argued about it various times that you provided almost no balance; it was all 100% RCDNW.

Maybe you didn't care if he went but you sure disguised that feeling pretty well. Saying you don't want Rafa back now is an entirely different scenario.

As for Kenny; my comment had nothing to do with the CC - I just wanted to know your thought on his performances in the league last season.


PS. Alex McLeish - now there's a manager. Time for us to have our own Sir Alex I think. 😉

 

[peterhague]

I see it as giving him absolutely no excuses. You fuck it up from here and there's no one else to blame so you're out the door.

I've got my fingers crossed anyway.

I'll be surprised if it's even that generous towards him. I expect we'll have a new Director of Football appointed fairly soon and he'll be given the lion's share of the power to make transfer decisions. I can't see them abandoning their preferred model and risk wasting millions of pounds just to be seen to have given Kenny a completely unobstructed influence, even if it is just a way to justify sacking him. Too high a cost, surely. If that doesn't happen I'll be fairly horrified.

 

[mr_moo]

I'll be surprised if it's even that generous towards him. I expect we'll have a new Director of Football appointed fairly soon and he'll be given the lion's share of the power to make transfer decisions. I can't see them abandoning their preferred model and risk wasting millions of pounds just to be seen to have given Kenny a completely unobstructed influence, even if it is just a way to justify sacking him. Too high a cost, surely. If that doesn't happen I'll be fairly horrified.

according to the press today, kenny is staying but he will have to work on a very limited budget. now the big question is, if he can't get it right spending £100m, can he possibly get it right spending say £10-15m?

 

[mark1975]

according to the press today, kenny is staying but he will have to work on a very limited budget. now the big question is, if he can't get it right spending £100m, can he possibly get it right spending say £10-15m?

If he buys a couple of good attacking players it'd go a long way to addressing it. He didn't get it completely wrong, I don't think it's benefited us this season but we still have the basis of a very good squad. With a couple of top additions we could change the face of it.

 

[mr_moo]

If he buys a couple of good attacking players it'd go a long way to addressing it. He didn't get it completely wrong, I don't think it's benefited us this season but we still have the basis of a very good squad. With a couple of top additions we could change the face of it.

agree that we are probably only a couple of decent attacking players (striker, playmaker and wide player) from improving the situation. as you started the post it's a 'if', just not sure who he can get for the small sums which he'll have to work with. interesting summer nonetheless.

 

[mark1975]

If he doesn't learn from his mistake last year of not addressing the here and now then he's failed. He can change it though, it's an 'if' either way. Some managers just work better with restrictions anyway, so who knows...

I'm starting to relax about it now the season is nearly over, we can look ahead and hope again.

 

[mr_moo]

If he doesn't learn from his mistake last year of not addressing the here and now then he's failed. He can change it though, it's an 'if' either way. Some managers just work better with restrictions anyway, so who knows...

I'm starting to relax about it now the season is nearly over, we can look ahead and hope again.

true, if he can't see the blinding obvious then he will fail and will quite rightly lose his job. the restrictions may not hinder him, so we have to wait and see, but as you will probably guess, i don't hold much hope.

 

[Judge Jules]

£20 mill.or so plus what we make from sales, and possibly from savings on the wage bill if we can offload the likes of Cole and (gulp) Aquilani, should be enough, especially if we can get the squad back to the level of performance it reached in the first few months under Kenny.

 

[mr_moo]

£20 mill.or so plus what we make from sales, and possibly from savings on the wage bill if we can offload the likes of Cole and (gulp) Aquilani, should be enough, especially if we can get the squad back to the level of performance it reached in the first few months under Kenny.

will it be enough though? hopefully he/they have learned, fuck buying english with potential (they won't be able to afford them anyway based on the reports of the possible buget). we will be buying ala newcastle style, hopefully with the same success rate.

 

[keniget]

I think we can make the CL without spending a ton of money.

There are bargains to be had this summer.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Newcastle have shown that you can get good players without spending a fortune. Just look at how much some of our best players, Reina, Skittles and Agger cost, not a lot.

 

[Fabio]

Exactly. It'd knowing when to buy players. 1 year too early its too soon, 1 year too late they cost a bomb.

We can do it!

 

[Y1]

will it be enough though? hopefully he/they have learned, fuck buying english with potential (they won't be able to afford them anyway based on the reports of the possible buget). we will be buying ala newcastle style, hopefully with the same success rate.

We have enough English players!

 

[red_maradona]

With a team Gerets built. 10th in their league currently.

but gerets didn't win it - more than happy for deschamps to come and win here with a team kenny 'built'. they won the cup this year i think, they are doing well overall and deschamps is class.

 

[Modo]

Stan Collymore's six-point plan to save Liverpool

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1. Stadium remodelling​

2. Making their brand global​

3. The continuum of youth​

4. World class manager​

5. Flexible football policy on the pitch​

6. Revamp media relations​

​

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

@FenwaySportsMgt @John_W_Henry Dalglish has given us amazing performances, next season it will be same performances with results #stability

Retweeted by Fenway Sports Mgt

 

[Modo]

@FenwaySportsMgt @John_W_Henry Dalglish has given us amazing performances, next season it will be same performances with results #stability

Retweeted by Fenway Sports Mgt

It's a retweeted message from a fan called Stephen Hall.
It doesn't mean anything.
Henry didn't acknowledge it.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I didn't say it did mean anything.

 

[localny]

Stan Collymore's six-point plan to save Liverpool

​

1. Stadium remodelling​

2. Making their brand global​

3. The continuum of youth​

4. World class manager​

5. Flexible football policy on the pitch​

6. Revamp media relations​

​

7. Pre game dogging in the car park.

 

[gkmacca]

Stan Collymore's six-point plan to save Liverpool

​

1. Stadium remodelling​

2. Making their brand global​

3. The continuum of youth​

4. World class manager​

5. Flexible football policy on the pitch​

6. Revamp media relations​

7. Commute from Cannock.​

​

 

[Judge Jules]

Stan Collymore's six-point plan to save Stan Collymore would be a good start.

 

[Modo]

I didn't say it did mean anything.

Well then it's back to status quo.

 

[Sunny]

but gerets didn't win it - more than happy for deschamps to come and win here with a team kenny 'built'. they won the cup this year i think, they are doing well overall and deschamps is class.

He's won the league once. Dalglish has won a cup also this season and got us to a final also. I don't see how they are doing well overall if they're lying 10th in their league or what makes Deschamps so attractive to be honest. If Marseilles are doing well we must be.

 

[Sunny]

Anyway. Dalglish is staying. Lock the thread

 

[Fabio]

Very surprised I'm first to like that post

 

[Oncy]

The problem with what you've done there is effectively simplify the three things we were competing for as if they were all the same: one good, one nearly good, one bad.

The Carling fucking Cup is a bag of complete balls, and shouldn't even be in the same stratosphere as the league, so don't imply that it is. Birmingham won the cunting thing before us, and what did it do for them?

Fuck the fucking Carling fucking Cup. It's pointless, and an utter waste of time even remarking upon.

We'll finish 8th.

After spending 100 million pounds. That's what this season is about.

No I havnt. Ive added the two things we did really well in and countered the one that didnt.
And im not really arsed enough to continue a debate about it. Our season has been ok.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Well then it's back to status quo.

But it was retweeted by FSG Modo. Why would they do that?

 

[spider-Neil]

according to the press today, kenny is staying but he will have to work on a very limited budget. now the big question is, if he can't get it right spending £100m, can he possibly get it right spending say £10-15m?

hoilet on a free would be good. I would also look to keep maxi.