Yes quite.
Brilliant.
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Brilliant.
So it's a Ryan thing and the way he expresses himself, not about Coutinho then
Coutinho is in a rich vein of form, however there was a period this season where he was fucking shite. Over hitting passes, wasting possession, etc. It's only the last 4-6 weeks he's become consistently brilliant.
Did I think Coutinho had a poor game against Bolton? No, but he faded dramatically in the second half, and I only noticed him at the end with that shot.
That's a good point - and also, how often they manage it. Some examples of existing Premier League players, and how many times they've scored 10 or more in a season across all competitions (while playing for a club in the top division in Europe). Italicized, red = recorded while playing in the Premier League.
- Nasri: twice - Arsenal (15), City (11)
- Silva: once - Valencia (10)
- Cazorla: once - Arsenal (12)
- Fabregas: 5 times - Arsenal (13, 19), Barca (15, 14, 13)
- Hazard: 6 times - Lille (10, 12, 22), Chelsea (13, 17, 11 - current season)
- Oscar: twice, Chelsea (12, 11) - currently on 7
- Ozil: thrice, Werder Bremen (11), Real Madrid (10, 10)
- Modric: twice, Dinamo Zagreb (14, 17)
- Ramsey: once, Arsenal (16)
- Mata: 4 times - Valencia (14, 14), Chelsea (12, 20)
- Eriksen: thrice - Ajax (13), Spurs (10, 11 - current season)
Fabregas' record is actually quite interesting. I remember when he was younger, the main criticism of him was that he didn't score enough. Then he exploded in the season Henry left, going from 4 goals to 13 in a season. The next season, hit by injuries, he slumped to 3, only to explode again and hit 19 the following season (despite playing about the same number of games as the season before). He finished with 9 the following season before leaving for Barca.
Also interesting that the ones who do it with an English club often do so while playing for Arsenal or Chelsea.
Mate, I can't be arsed with this - you said people are getting defensive about the criticism, as though people are abusing Coutinho and being unfair, well yes, at least one of you are. People know he can improve, pointing it out in the way it's been done throughout this thread has seriously lacked perspective. It's not just been a fair, "he's great isn't he, but if he wants to be World Class he has to...", it's been more a case of dumbing down his quality.
Agree to disagree so. Ryan started the "he doesn't score important goals" debate and said it a few times. If Dreamy had said it and Ryan thought the other way he would have ripped Dreamy to fucking shreds.
I agreed above that people are being too precious. This thread didn't seem like it was supposed to be about comparing players and I hate when people bring up other player's failings to make a point. It's as if being right is more important than a player doing well for us. Modo...I mean Sherman is ridiculously guilty of it. Phillipe is a gem and I'm delighted he signed a contract. If Sterling follows suits we'll have a fearsome front 3 for the foreseeable future with a lot of potential to back it up.
Hahahhaha.
I never said you, Ryan or anyone else didn't praise Him I was merely pointing out Ryan's post was incorrect and as usual he proves he can never admit he got something wrong. And if you want to talk about constant points scoring or hammering home a point have a look at any post I've made about strikers this year and you'll quick fire find a post from Ryan telling me how I wanted Torres for 10m instead of Mario. There must half a dozen of the same post.
Ryan made a point which I said was incorrect, he made his usual 'you are a moran and wrong ' comment. I backed up my point with clear facts. Ryan chooses to ignore it as usual. That's it.
The fact you singled me out just shows you really dislike me more than anything else, which is fair enough but that post was strange in a thread full of similar posts.
But I'll leave you to your opinions.
I dont dislike you at all Pat. I think your ace.
Dont mix football opinion with personal opinion.
Hahahahahaha
You made a fair point DB, a few people have, in response to some of the outlandish claims in this thread and elsewhere, but they haven't been acknowledged either, or they've been ridiculed like yours was.There were some pretty daft claims about what he does and doesn't do, which were pissed on with facts, yet the comments were completely ignored. Quelle Surprise.
People think his critics are being over the top, well yeah, read some of the quoted posts. No one this side of the fence is defending him to the hilt. Like I said, he's a great little player with the potential to be top drawer, but he needs to keep improving and iron out a few issues, the same can be said of most young attackers - that's not the same as what his critics have been saying here. People seem to look at players who play at other clubs, with rose tinted spectacles, while picking the bones out of our own. It does my fucking head in. Even more so when Average Joe's like Allen & Borini have been afforded a disproportionate level of faith, backing and championing.
Isn't it time for you to start saying we need Rafa back?
If you are who people think you are then its wonderful irony that you're banging on about agendas. You were the most agenda driven poster on the fucking site.
I really don't know what you're talking about.
The only reason I posted that rant about Coutinho is because I was baffled to see a thread where he's being criticised during a time when he arguably is our most in form player along with Sterling, Lucas, Sakho and possibly Mignolet.
It's true, I've been to this forum before but I'm not who you think I am.
The only reason I posted that rant about Coutinho is because I was baffled to see a thread where he's being criticised during a time when he arguably is our most in form player along with Sterling, Lucas, Sakho and possibly Mignolet.
It's true, I've been to this forum before but I'm not who you think I am.
Lallana should be here in place of Coutinho. I'm not sure why he's relatively shielded from criticism. Maybe it's because he can't even make the bench.
Supporters innit? I find it odd that you champion Borini and Balotelli while criticising Gerrard and Coutinho, but until this post I just left it be, 'cos ya know, some people are odd.
Don't fret. My support of balo and Borini has long since departed. It's all for the Lulz now
I never fret.
Except when it comes to tony. I just want to make a bad ass burger and shove in that guys face.
Do you mean a burger that's badass or a burger that's bad and made out of your ass?
take that brioche shit off and you're on
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