Rodrygo
Isak
Ekitike
should be the order that we look to buy
Isak
Ekitike
should be the order that we look to buy
Rodrygo Goes to Popworld
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Yes please. I need to replace mine.
Who says we’re signing Isak AND Ekitike? That was never, ever on the cards.
If we really want Rodrygo, we should not delay too much in selling Diaz to Bayern because they would be our main competition for the Brazilian and Madrid would want nothing more than an auction between two big clubs to drive the price into the stratosphere. Replacing Diaz with Rodrygo does seem like a no-brainer, if the money is similar.
That being said, Real are starting the bidding very high (way higher than we will get for Diaz) and this seems like a potential transfer saga that could go down to the last day of the window. So if we sell Diaz, we will have to be cognizant of a very real risk that we will not replace him with anyone until at least January.
That being said, Real are starting the bidding very high (way higher than we will get for Diaz) and this seems like a potential transfer saga that could go down to the last day of the window. So if we sell Diaz, we will have to be cognizant of a very real risk that we will not replace him with anyone until at least January.
There were a couple of Twitter posts which suggested signing Ekitike. Didn’t rule out us still trying to sign Isak.
Those posts were probably made by utter idiots.
Maybe so, but it was said.
It was never on the cards for us to gazump Bayern and sign Wirtz for £116m but we did.
I would have called anyone suggesting that an utter idiot.
We live in dark and uncertain times. Men do unthinkable things.
Not questioning the talent, but given that it's been hard for Rodrygo to nail down a starting spot for real, is he worth the fee being touted? He scores 1 in every 3-4 matches for Real, less for Brazil. He's at a good age still, approaching his prime - but Brazilian prime tends to burn out fast.
If we were getting a discount, it would seem more appealing.
Besides being a few years younger, is he better than Diaz?
If we were getting a discount, it would seem more appealing.
Besides being a few years younger, is he better than Diaz?
80M plus? No for me.
Next year, given the fact that he will need to settle in the PL, I believe he is going to be not as good as Diaz. Just based on trajectory, I also expect the next two years to be the best seasons for Diaz.
But if he settles well, Rodrygo has a higher ceiling, pace, control, goal scoring , adaptability.
does the pope shit in the woods
If Diaz is here, he starts. No doubt about it.
You must be on an alternate universe, where Diaz is starting every game on the left and killing it.
He's not doing that in mine.
Neither is Gakpo though really. I prefer Diaz directness but can see how we might improve that side / backup striker.
9 sorted, 10 seriously sorted, Mo new contract on the right. MF sorted. Full backs sorted. Need a backup CB but its arguably only LW where we can improve the starting XI.
In Moneyball terms Rodriygo makes sense if Bayern are offering £60m+ for Diaz as he's that much younger. I bet Rodrygo is already on big wages though and Diaz allegedly isn't.
Am pissed at Diaz for agitating after we supported him big time last year. Not quite hero to zero.
Nick Pope? Or the guy with the hat?
the man with the hat and the big blinging cross
Good point about Brazilian prime being shorter (for attackers at least). If we buy him at 24, we will probably need to plan to sell him at 27-28 - given he will need a season to adjust to the Premier League and the price, it’s close to being not worth it. Unless he absolutely tears it up in the next 3 years and we can take advantage of his prime years and offload smartly.
So yeah, it’s more of a gamble than seems at first glance... I also hate helping Madrid solve their problems. No one other than us or Bayern will come close to their valuation and he won’t go to Saudi. Let them “start the bidding at €100M for Rodrygo” and then by the end of the window have to loan him to Galatasaray or Juventus.
Diaz has been doing his work on the left for many years under Klopp. It wasn't working that well. His numbers weren't sufficient. Last season Gakpo added goals and assists, while Diaz himself added goals but in the 9 position. He is however not a 9 and if Nunez was any good, Diaz would not be starting.
With that said, if Diaz stays and is still starting regularly in the 9 position come Dec, something has probably gone very wrong with our recruiting.
I think you need to rethink what you think you saw last season.
In the PL.
Diaz scored 8 goals from 20 matches (6 assists) at LW last season. Pretty good. He scored 5 in 13 games (1 assist) at CF, not elite but a decent return for a backup CF. So G x1 = 186 mins, A x1 = 345 mins G+A = 1 every 120.65 mins
Gakpo scored 10 goals from 32 matches (+5 assists) at LW last season. Also a decent return. He scored 0 in 3 games (0 assists) at CF.
So G x1 = 194 mins, A x1 = 388 mins G+A = 1 every 129.2 mins
Diaz 2,413 mins. Gakpo 1,938 mins.
There is no way in hell Diaz scored 8 goals playing on the left wing last season. I don't have to even check. He only got 5 assists in all competitions for the entire season so I am not sure where the 6 assists came from. Anyway I am used to reading wildly contrasting accounts of what Diaz did or did not do here. It's like I have been watching a different game all this while.
Those who still think Diaz is our best starting left forward last season, I encourage you to rewatch our games. Otherwise, I'll just have to agree to disagree.
The whole Diaz thing is personal with you, isn't it? Did he steal your girlfriend or something?
He had 5 goals by the fifth game from lw. There aren't many players better than him in world football, but there are a few, and who he replaced is one of them. He's no mane, but it would be unremarkable if his replacement is worse in terms of numbers. They might integrate better, but it's impossible to know now, because our attack is so different in general. Diaz never really seemed that integrated into our attack but our attack was incredibly asymmetrical down the other side for most of the time he was here, with our fullback sitting in rather than overlapping as much as in the past.
Stats from Transfermarkt. Well respected stat site.
There's a reason BM are willing to pay such a large sum for him and I bet you their scouts have watched him a great deal more (and with far more analysis) than we have. He's greatly undervalued by some on this site.
We're losing two great songs and that should tell you something about the likelihood that our attack is now better.
