Liverpool related transfer speculation

[StevieM]

We don't need both Robbo and Tsimi, one of them has to go. Tsimi would get us £10-15m and open up a non-HG player spot if we need it. If we get Isak and Guehi, it will be a 10/10 window imho

No we don’t “need” both, but we also don’t “need” to sell both Tsimikas & Chiesa even if we sign Isak & Guehi and as @Beamrider has mentioned, there might be more benefit to selling players next season than this.

 

[Frogfish]

No we don’t “need” both, but we also don’t “need” to sell both Tsimikas & Chiesa even if we sign Isak & Guehi and as @Beamrider has mentioned, there might be more benefit to selling players next season than this.

Well that depends on what we're going to save on wages but more importantly they'll both be a year older with little to zero matches this season and plummeting values. Still worth it?

 

[Beamrider]

Well that depends on what we're going to save on wages but more importantly they'll both be a year older with little to zero matches this season and plummeting values. Still worth it?

This is correct. I think my point was more that if we could do a loan with obligation to buy, pushing the profit on sale out a year but preserving the economic benefits (i.e. covering the wage cost and nailing down a fee), then that would be worthwhile.
The difference it would make to FFP in 4 years' time would not justify paying out 3 lots of wages next season for a single position and allowing declining values for the next 12 months, especially when Robbo will be out of contract next summer so will have no re-sale value at that point, unless we give him a new deal (and unless he accepts a Milner role I just don't see that happening).
In an ideal world, we either sell Robbo now when we can get a fee, or we send Kostas out on loan with a view to a sale next summer.

 

[StevieM]

Well that depends on what we're going to save on wages but more importantly they'll both be a year older with little to zero matches this season and plummeting values. Still worth it?

I’m not sure Tsimikas drops that much in value and he seems like a good guy to have around who won’t kick up a fuss about not playing. He’s not likely to be on that much.

Chiesa you absolutely sell as soon as someone offers decent money - his wage will be higher.

 

[dee]

Well that depends on what we're going to save on wages but more importantly they'll both be a year older with little to zero matches this season and plummeting values. Still worth it?

Their sale price dwarfs the wages and you’ve seen the numbers @Beamrider has posted. We need a constant trickle of sales, not a massive glut ‘ to balance the books’ (‘cos they don’t)

 

[bluebell]

We don't need 3 left backs one has to go. After what happened to Jota, I would keep the scot and sell the Greek if it were upto me. Some players are like glue, they bring a team closer, and I think Robbo does this better than Tsimi.

 

[StevieM]

We don't need 3 left backs one has to go. After what happened to Jota, I would keep the scot and sell the Greek if it were upto me. Some players are like glue, they bring a team closer, and I think Robbo does this better than Tsimi.

I think we’ll play Tsimikas by ear - you have to have someone willing to buy in order to sell.

I see Spurs talking about wanting a LB and sniffing around Robinson - I would have thought Tsimikas was a reasonable option for Spurs and a really good one for Fulham if they cash in on Robinson, but we’re in no rush.

 

[bluebell]

I think we’ll play Tsimikas by ear - you have to have someone willing to buy in order to sell.

I see Spurs talking about wanting a LB and sniffing around Robinson - I would have thought Tsimikas was a reasonable option for Spurs and a really good one for Fulham if they cash in on Robinson, but we’re in no rush.

Tsimikas is a good LB for a mid tier club... I think its a case of Hughes getting around to selling squad options who have become surplus to requirements