[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=40455.msg1111669#msg1111669 date=1275522785]
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40455.msg1111657#msg1111657 date=1275522371]
1) The world recession fucked up the stadium , or did you miss that one whilst on planet fucking Zog. It also fucked up the rest of the yanks finances, just like it did to everyone else particularly DIC by the way, oh and Mr Abramovitch. [/quote]
that recession didn't stop arsenal from building their stadium, but anyway I brought up the yanks because you seem to be under the impression they (the yanks) wont do anything that will harm their investment anything more I say on that subject will be speculation, I'll leave it say and say 'time will time'.
2) Opinion that doesn't fall in with the masses is not thick, as it happens, I was in a fairly small minority for much of his tenure , airing my doubts. Thick is not seeing the blindingly fucking obvious (or is that buildingly fucking obvious), and not being able to change an opinion as it is so deeply entrenched.
bringing up a typo, hilarious. why entrenched? remove last season and rafa's record is excellent.
last season was an absolute disgrace , no argument, who the fuck would argue that point? I just wanted him to given another season to put it right. people thought it was blindingly obvious to get rid of rafa with the horrendous winter slump (season before last) and then we went on an amazing winning run.
loads of people bring up fergie's early seasons, wasn't it blindingly obvious to get rid then?
3) He has earned fuck all.....you are as good as your last match, or in a managers case ....last season. Anyway, he only won what he did with a team based on Houlliers squad anyway and in two brilliant but lucky finals.
so now we're reduced to calling the finals lucky? okay, whatever...
as I said before 'you're only as good as your last season' is a fair point of view, but I and many others don't share that point of view. I think rafa has been an excellent when you view his ENTIRE tenure but we're going to have to agree to disagree.
4) You got a bit right Neil, anyone who comes in will be a better option to be honest. Rafa spent over £36m last window and brought a right back and a crocked midfielder (who may yet come good), and totally forgot about some cunt that could score goals.
the striker was the boards fault as the keane money wasn't reinvested, but I definately agree rafa could have done better in the transfer market but every manager makes mistakes in the transfer market, as I said I am well aware of rafa shortcomings of last season but I still think he had it in him to turn it around. and we are difinately going to have to agree to disagree than ANYONE who comes will be a better option.
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Errrr the Emirates was started in 2004 and finished in 2006 .......recession 2008
The Keane money was re-invested in Johnson and Aqualiani
The Alosnso money wasn't, who only for Rafa being a tool again would have still been here.
He has won us two cups in his time here, both early doors and both using the core of Houlliers team, and did not exactly inherit a team that was mid table, and spent a shit load of money since. Istanbul was a magical night and beating Chelsea before that was even better and I will always be grateful, but shit, we did have some luck.
I do know that whatever he has done he has done in what he genuinely believes are the right reasons for the club.
I liked Houllier up to the day he went, and was really upset then, but could see the logic. With Rafa, he started well, but I have not been convinced for some years, something went wrong when Paco left.
Anyways I will leave it there Neil, sorry if I over-stepped the line with the thick bit, but your comrade in arms was probably influencing me a little on that one
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regards