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Mark: largely agree but I've got some misgivings about the Moreno link. From what I can gather, his strengths are heavily weighted towards the attacking side of his game. If we sign him, might we be getting - OK, the same strengths, but also the same problems as we have with Magic?
 
KopRed said:
Was Remy in the French world cup squad? If he was why wasn't he playing? If he wasn't playing why would we want him? A reserve striker (with personal issues) for 8 million. We certainly need better.
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It's not really a fair perspective, there were plenty of good players infront of him for France who would cost 5 times the price, one's playing for Madrid, the other for Newcastle, which do you pick? His record for Newcastle was 8 in 10, we need depth, for £8m it's worth it - a French International with good goalscoring pedigree, experienced, fits what we need. People just see it as face value and see Suarez out/Remy in, it's not really a case of that, we'll be bringing in others and we've already brought in Markovic.

Like I said, whoever we buy is on a hiding to nothing. If we spend £8m on him and ship out Assaidi and Borini for a combined £20m, then to bag a good striker and make a profit of £12m, it's great business.

I know we need to add *another* top class player, but like I said, stop taking it at face value, he gives us quality in depth, for a good price.
 
Judge Jules said:
Mark: largely agree but I've got some misgivings about the Moreno link. From what I can gather, his strengths are heavily weighted towards the attacking side of his game. If we sign him, might we be getting - OK, the same strengths, but also the same problems as we have with Magic?
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I know, that's why I said I'd rather have Davies, tsk 😉
 
I figure we can cope with 3 good strikers. Sturridge isn't entirely made of glass - yeah, he'll miss games, but it's not like he missed a dozen games each season for the last few years to injury. The ankle sprain that took 8 games out of him last season was probably the longest injury stretch he's suffered.

The season before that (2012/13), he lost 5 games at Chelsea due to a hamstring injury, and couldn't get back into the matchday squad after that. He lost one game to a groin strain and then one other game after joining us.

In 2011/12, he played 30 games for Chelsea. In 2010, he played 13 games for Chelsea (+ 5 unused sub appearance) and 12 games for Bolton (missed out on 2 games probably due to injury). Again, he played or was eligible for 30 games.

So, say he's playing 30 league games a season + the majority of the CL group games, that leaves about 8 games for the likes of Lambert and one other to fill in for the league games and probably the cup games as well.

4 strikers for one position (assuming that's how we'll play) seems a luxury. 3 is about right IMO, unless we go with two up front most of the time, in which case then the 4th striker makes more sense. If unfortunately one of them goes down to a long injury, then we'll work on getting a fill in during the winter transfer window, or call up a youngster. How I think it'll work anyway.
 
If he is to replace Borini then that is just fine..

Which means we still need another striker, which hopefully will be an elite player.. But probably will be Bony..
 
Three strikers is a little scary. All it takes is Sturridge and say Remy out for a while to leave us with a mini-striking crisis.
 
TSD said:
Three strikers is a little scary. All it takes is Sturridge and say Remy out for a while to leave us with a mini-striking crisis.
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You can say that about any position though. If your first two choices are out you're going to struggle no matter who you are.
 
studsup said:
I figure we can cope with 3 good strikers. Sturridge isn't entirely made of glass - yeah, he'll miss games, but it's not like he missed a dozen games each season for the last few years to injury. The ankle sprain that took 8 games out of him last season was probably the longest injury stretch he's suffered.

The season before that (2012/13), he lost 5 games at Chelsea due to a hamstring injury, and couldn't get back into the matchday squad after that. He lost one game to a groin strain and then one other game after joining us.

In 2011/12, he played 30 games for Chelsea. In 2010, he played 13 games for Chelsea (+ 5 unused sub appearance) and 12 games for Bolton (missed out on 2 games probably due to injury). Again, he played or was eligible for 30 games.

So, say he's playing 30 league games a season + the majority of the CL group games, that leaves about 8 games for the likes of Lambert and one other to fill in for the league games and probably the cup games as well.

4 strikers for one position (assuming that's how we'll play) seems a luxury. 3 is about right IMO, unless we go with two up front most of the time, in which case then the 4th striker makes more sense. If unfortunately one of them goes down to a long injury, then we'll work on getting a fill in during the winter transfer window, or call up a youngster. How I think it'll work anyway.
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Thats why the fourth will be someone who can play all three forward positions, that's why we were so keen on Sanchez, and why we'll sign Reus.
 
Remy seems a natural fit IMO, for reasonable dosh too, and with being a right-footer he should be able to complement Studge when they play together. I agree that we could use a fourth option given the importance of this year and the comps we face.
 
Lippy said:
I think we need the right players for the team. The price is immaterial. People are too hung up on landing these superstar names a lot of whom are just overpriced in relation to what they actually bring
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I know and I think Remy is great value at the price and one of those players that could work but it's just one of those signings that seems like a quick fix even though if it happens I obviously hope it is a massive success. Some of the superstars are over priced yes, but that's the market isn't it and we cant moan about it if we continue to miss out on targets to teams that are willing to spend big while we finally have the money to land these players. I'd prefer if we could splash on a few of them rather than buying bargain basements the whole time as we've been hit and miss on them. For every Coutinho and Sturridge there's an Aspas and Alberto. You pay for proven class and if we want it in the starting 11 now we need to fork out!
 
Tottenham paid for supposed proven class last year and were shite as they failed to address their defensive issues. That's another conversation of course
 
If we sign Remy, which looks very likely now, we wont sign another striker imho. Apart from Origi maybe.
We'll spend some serious dosh on another attacking midfielder who can play in a lot of different positions.

Remy sounds very underrated by some on here. Hopefully he can step up and score goals for us.
Rumoured deal is 60k pr week.

I dont agree about going after the superstar names either. Spending 60-70% of our budget on one player is just stupid.

Get Remy in the bag and then shift focus to our defence. Thats were the biggest improvement can be done and where we'll pick up more points.
 
Frogfish said:
That has nothing to do with having 2 injured though 😉
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I have confidence in Rodgers' tactical nous and man-management ability to get the most out of 3 strikers over a long arduous campaign, but Suarez was an abnormally fit individual and he was our main man in a much shorter season.

I'd be a little worried relying on Sturridge as the main man in this regard. How's the fitness record of Lambert and Remy like?
 
Does he really have the capability to operate across the front three?

I've seen it mentioned a lot, but if you watch his goal compilations the majority are coming from poaching positions in the central area. If he's going to get a game for us out there then he's going to be in competition with Lallana and Sterling, meaning he has to be up to a good standard.

Nothing wrong with being back-up to Sturridge, but I'm curious what else Remy offers.
 
Centrally and left of a front 3, his approach play can be excellent at times, he is a reasonably classy striker.
 
Liverpool tell Loic Remy to lower his wage demands if he wants £8million Anfield move
The Reds are willing to meet the escape clause in French striker's QPR contract, but do not want to break the bank when it comes to wages


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Cool it: Liverpool want the French striker to lower his wage demands
Loic Remy has been told to drop his wage demands to secure a dream £8million move to Liverpool.
Liverpool are in pole position to sign Remy after Tottenham pulled out of the race and Arsenal cooled their interest.
The Reds have spoken to QPR and the France World Cup striker has an £8million escape clause in his contract at Loftus Road for Champions League clubs.
However Liverpool have been put off by Remy's personal terms and it is understood he is demanding between £80-90,000-a-week.
Liverpool are reluctant to pay this amount for a player who will be back up to Daniel Sturridge and are content to wait.
Remy, 27, who scored 14 goals on loan at Newcastle last season, is one of several options Brendan Rodgers is considering as he decides how to spend his £75million windfall from Luis Suarez's sale to Barcelona.
Rodgers would like another striker because Belgian teenager Divock Origi will return to Lille on loan for next season when he completes his £9.8million switch.
Liverpool have also looked at Swansea's Wilfried Bony, but the Welsh club want at least £19million for the Ivorian international.
 
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