This thread is disgusting but I really shouldn't be surprised, those on the left who claim to be so loving and caring are always the most savage and revolting when they let their true colors show.
She's dead
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Not about people dying I don't, no.
Get told fox.
Yeh I'm sure she was bouncing her kids on her knee whilst knitting them a nice Arran cardie and sucking on a Werthers original. She's the epitome of motherly love. What's savage Fox? - seeing people lose their jobs, homes and self respect due to this womans policies ? She was the cause of that. Or perhaps whole cities brought to their knees living in shite when the other half of the country lived it up in comparable luxury ? She wreaked havoc on our education system, destroyed local democracy, lifted the mortgage restrictions that caused the housing boom and inevitable crash in 1989 and introduced the world to negative equity. She destroyed unions and industries via the massive unemployment she caused. She also hung this city and fans of it's football club out to dry in 1989 and governed over the lies that hung over dead people and their families for a quarter of a century. So sorry if some of us don't have the same rose-tinted view of the witch as those of you fortunate to have been born and working in the South of this wonderful country.
Savage ? Maybe but if that's the case she was a fucking vampire of the worst kind.
I guess she may have done some positive things over the years.Today was one of those.
In terms of world politics I agree, and I don't care how unfashionable it may be to say so. IMO in foreign and defence matters she was right more often than not.
As far as domestic politics are concerned, I'm less convinced than you that history's overall verdict will be favourable. The changes she instituted probably were necessary, but she took them too far for too long and did corresponding long-term damage in the process.
A fair summary from JJ.
I'll try to keep this as neutral as possible.
She "took on" the unions that controlled the huge state industries in the 1970's/early 1980s. She won. Huge social and industrial change ensued, with the large industrial areas of Britain being affected the most. You should read independently and draw your own conclusions about why she did it, and whether it was the right thing to do, bearing in mind the situation and the other options available at the time.
She did a number of other things that, according to some theories, liberated people to improve their own existence through their own efforts, which is where, I think, the 'no such thing as society' came from, as people were encouraged to fend for themselves entirely as individuals and not collectively. Most notable of these policies was the sale of council houses at a reduced price to their residents (which was actually devised by Michael Heseltine, who you should read about as he has an interesting political history in relation to Liverpool, ironically).
These measures clearly resonated with the public because she won elections with massive landslide victories. Many, many people gained to do some degree or other. However, even though a smaller number of people lost, they did so to a much greater degree, so one has to judge her in that context, was the pain worth the gain on a national level?
What you should also do is try to avoid blaming her for things being as they are now because she left power in 1990, and the Conservatives in 1997, so we've had a long time to repair the mistakes that were made. On that note, you should pay attention to that fact that none (that I can recall) of her major policies were ever reversed (I'm more than happy to be corrected on this) and to this day, Labour are very careful to keep the unions at arm's length because of the collective memory the country has of the time before Thatcher came to power.
That made me roar. I'd retweet that if I was on twitter.
Well, I don't care what any of you say, she was great for Tonbridge Wells.
I am not so sure about her foreign policy either...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/nov/22/books.france
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/nov/22/books.france
They best not spend a penny of public money on that despicable cunt.
but she grew to be an old woman. all cuddly like.
Posh boy Fox telling us to shut up. Get your butler to write a letter of complaint to the 6CM management.
People in Sheffield won't have given a fuck that there was 23 increase in GDP or increases in the median wage though will they ? Median wage counts for shit when you don't earn a wage. They will have given a shit that they struggled to feed and clothe their families.
For 20 odd years she was responsible, in collusion with the South Yorkshire Police, for blackening the name of the 96 dead, the survivors, LFC and indeed the people of Liverpool in general. Her and that fat fuck PR guy Ingham.
I dont think anyone should rejoice in the death of another, lets face it, its going to happen to us all sooner or later.
But I wont lose any sleep over her departure.
I dont think anyone should rejoice in the death of another, lets face it, its going to happen to us all sooner or later.
But I wont lose any sleep over her departure.
Although I often hear that said, I have never seen one iota of evidence that Thatcher felt that way about Liverpool. In fact, in 1982 after the Toxteth Riots, she sent Michael Heseltine up here to set up the Merseyside Development Corporation with a budget of some £500 million. No other Northern city received that sort of treatment.
And she raised such nice kids . There was the one sacked for racism and the other one who was an arms dealer .
Prob already has. Is fox actually posh? Or just one of them cunts that acts posh but isn't? Like a wool. A political and social wool?
And the point is? If you need your city developed start a riot?
They didn't earn a wage before: living off an unsustainable, loss-making, nationalised industry is just a glorified life on benefits.
Incidently no post in the Football Forum for nearly 2 hours...
Someone must of died or something..
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Someone must of died or something..
er... oh....
Good swap . Yin and yang .
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