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She's dead

The problem with her handling of the hunger strikes was that, it is generally accepted that, she became the best recruiting officer the IRA ever had.
 
I can see your point, and I agree that the reason for the bombing was political.

However I don't agree that the hunger strikers should have special privileges in prison because of the political nature of their crimes. Bombing is such a coarse and indiscriminate way of making a point. You can plant a bomb in any location with a target in mind, but there is no way to stop it killing men, women or children, innocent or otherwise, Protestant or Catholic that just happen to be in the same location.
Which reminds me. I watched Scarface last night. Tony Montana had the right idea when he used a manual trigger for a bomb. He was able to prevent the women and children being killed.
 
lol and lefties don't think.

Now I know where your fucked up justification for Rafa's spending comes from.


But it is irrelevant. It'd be like you caring about Rafa buying one too many paper clips.

I think this thread has shown pretty conclusively that you and others simply refuse to think about the nuances of the issues, and prefer the comforting myths. Barely a response to the stuff about Wilson closing more mines, about the Tony Benn anecdote, about the offer to the miners. Not even rejection or denial, just pig headed refusal to engage. What can I do but despise what is so clearly despicable?
 
But it is irrelevant. It'd be like you caring about Rafa buying one too many paper clips.

I think this thread has shown pretty conclusively that you and others simply refuse to think about the nuances of the issues, and prefer the comforting myths. Barely a response to the stuff about Wilson closing more mines, about the Tony Benn anecdote, about the offer to the miners. Not even rejection or denial, just pig headed refusal to engage. What can I do but despise what is so clearly despicable?

I've said something had to be done about the unions Peter - but she went too far even with that. As for the Tony Benn anecdote I really just don't give a fuck whether she cried at someones funeral or not. The Wilson closing mines thing I'd be interested in reading more. As for the so-called myth debunking from the impartial "London Loves Business" weekly - it's a lame article.
 
But it is irrelevant. It'd be like you caring about Rafa buying one too many paper clips.

I think this thread has shown pretty conclusively that you and others simply refuse to think about the nuances of the issues, and prefer the comforting myths. Barely a response to the stuff about Wilson closing more mines, about the Tony Benn anecdote, about the offer to the miners. Not even rejection or denial, just pig headed refusal to engage. What can I do but despise what is so clearly despicable?
I think you live in your own little world Peter.
 
I wish I had an irrelevant £8m lying about. Maybe I could build some housing with it.
 
I've said something had to be done about the unions Peter - but she went too far even with that. As for the Tony Benn anecdote I really just don't give a fuck whether she cried at someones funeral or not. The Wilson closing mines thing I'd be interested in reading more. As for the so-called myth debunking from the impartial "London Loves Business" weekly - it's a lame article.

I wasn't directing it at you. I think you're probably the single one who has engaged.

The Benn thing I posted because others denied Spion's story about the Falklands. They get a better example and ignore it. I think that's pathetic and craven.
 
The problem with her handling of the hunger strikes was that, it is generally accepted that, she became the best recruiting officer the IRA ever had.

And now they're in government. Something unthinkable in the 70s but inevitable after her ham fisted approach to the hunger strikes created the Sinn Fein we know.
 
I wasn't directing it at you. I think you're probably the single one who has engaged.

The Benn thing I posted because others denied Spion's story about the Falklands. They get a better example and ignore it. I think that's pathetic and craven.

Well you know my stance on the Falklands. Although a Falklands themed funeral as is the rumour seems a bit weird to say the least. It's like they're burying some kind of pagan war chief
 
Peter - I'm certainly not offering any party or politician as a comparison or defense nor did I say others haven't made mistakes, I'm not banging Labour's drum. What are you saying? That Wilson's actions justify Thatcher's? That he's not getting the same level of criticism? It's not just about the pits is it?

What comforting myths are you on about? Living through it first hand? I've provided enough personal accounts of the Tories impact on welfare and social living.

We're all ignorant yet you post that £8m is irrelevant.
 
Peter - I'm certainly not offering any party or politician as a comparison or defense nor did I say others haven't made mistakes, I'm not banging Labour's drum. What are you saying? That Wilson's actions justify Thatcher's? That he's not getting the same level of criticism? It's not just about the pits is it?

What comforting myths are you on about? Living through it first hand? I've provided enough personal accounts of the Tories impact on welfare and social living.

We're all ignorant yet you post that £8m is irrelevant.


It is irrelevant!!!
 
£8m is 0.00001% of total public spending. 0.00001% of a relatively average salary of £25k is (I think) 0.25p


It is a clearly irrelevant figure.
 
£8m is 0.00001% of total public spending. 0.00001% of a relatively average salary of £25k is (I think) 0.25p


It is a clearly irrelevant figure.

I look forward to similarly irrelevant amounts being kindly deposited in my bank account.
 
£8m is 0.00001% of total public spending. 0.00001% of a relatively average salary of £25k is (I think) 0.25p


It is a clearly irrelevant figure.

It would run patient family care at alder hey children's hospital for 70 parents year round & the support around that for 16 years.

It would keep 1000 women suffering from breast cancer alive by treating & paying for all their care & drugs throughout their recovery.

But yeah, it's irrelevant.
 
Hey cancer patients, you can't have those drugs, they're too expensive. But what about the £8m you spent on Maggie's funeral? Pffft, what would £8m have got you?

Hey kids we would have refurbished your crumbling school but hey....*shakes piggy bank*

Can you re-open our library for us? Soz. No. We're skint. *shrugs*.

What about some new housing? Oops, all gone.

No doubt you're unaffected by such trivial things but to me, that money could be spent doing far more good than burying an already wealthy person who hasn't even been Prime Minister for over two decades.
 
It would run patient family care at alder hey children's hospital for 70 parents year round & the support around that for 16 years.

It would keep 1000 women suffering from breastfeeding cancer alive by treating & paying for all their care & drugs throughout their recovery.

But yeah, it's irrelevant.


It's irrelevant because that money is already being spent on those things. Why? Because a government as well funded as the UK's will never ever be stuck for £8m. Why? Because it's an irrelevant number in public spending terms.
 
It's irrelevant because that money is already being spent on those things. Why? Because a government as well funded as the UK's will never ever be stuck for £8m. Why? Because it's an irrelevant number in public spending terms.

So treatments for cancer are never turned down for lack of 'a few million'?

That's bollocks.

Schools close for much less cash.

Police stations have been closed fucking everywhere for less cash each. That 8m could have kept my local station open for 4 years. A girl was attacked & sexually assaulted yards away from it a few weeks ago.

You're either on a huge wind up or you're very misguided.
 
When the Witch said 'There is no such thing as society', society's money shouldn't have been factored into her burial.

Unless of course we could tie her corpse to a stake and all watch it burn.

It's funny watching all these politicians praising the Witch, lots of them the ones who kicked her out when she was in power.

Maggie tears, the only time the fucker cried when when she left Downing Street and got in thatcar, and those tears where for herself.
 
And what would you spend that 1/4 of a pence on?

£8m of public spending goes alot further than 1/4 pence. When the government is handing out cuts that are effecting communities and public health, of course it's relevant. It's selective, disproportionate and frankly, unjustifiable spending.
 
@peterhague

Btw, you said hospitals already have that cash.

The example I used was alder hey patient family care & support. The reason I did that is I know it costs just under 500m for 70 parents per annum, cos I have to done fundraising for the CHARITY that runs the facility at alder hey. The charity does so as the hospital can't afford to.
 
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