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So who do we want/expect/hope?

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Are these the women you have shrunk for your plan ?
 
I think Villas Boas has demonstrated that he didn't cope with the PL style which has much more pace an power than i n Portugal. In Portugal you meet teams who first will lie pretty low waiting, and second they will be less eager to take counters rapidly, which means a superior team like Porto can stand very high with their back four.
 
I think Villas Boas has demonstrated that he didn't cope with the PL style which has much more pace an power than i n Portugal. In Portugal you meet teams who first will lie pretty low waiting, and second they will be less eager to take counters rapidly, which means a superior team like Porto can stand very high with their back four.

So he can't learn from his mistakes then?
 
I think Villas Boas has demonstrated that he didn't cope with the PL style which has much more pace an power than i n Portugal. In Portugal you meet teams who first will lie pretty low waiting, and second they will be less eager to take counters rapidly, which means a superior team like Porto can stand very high with their back four.
Half a season and that demonstrates he can't cope? His first season as well. Same goes for Kenny and he's had 1.5 seasons in the PL. We got 8th.
 
Fair point Mark, but do you think he didn't learn from his first season in the PL? He certainly won't believe the likes of Stoke are a push over. As for his man-management, well, our players aren't like those at Chelsea.



Then again Agger did voice his concerns with Woy so maybe they are....

I for one have no idea whether, or how much, he's learned from the experience, mate. His time at Chelsea suggested there's more than a touch of Rafa-type inflexibility about him and, if he has in his own mind the sheer variety of excuses made for him by those on this site who want him, he won't have learned much. I'd also have been happier if more time had elapsed since he got the boot from Abramovich and he'd therefore had more of an opportunity to reflect on where he went wrong. He's an able guy, but I simply don't think he's ready for a job this big.

But, like others have said, I'll support him if he does arrive, though I'll be hoping he doesn't until I hear otherwise.
 
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I wish AVB would have stayed at Chelsea as we would have won the FA Cup and they would have been beaten in the quarters of the CL.

And this is the guy you some of you want.

WEIRD
Tbf Andre would have probably played carroll

*not digging up the bones*
 
Do you believe it was down to bad luck that his defenders was all over the place for half a season?
Do you believe it was bad luck that we hit the woodwork with almost every shot? Or could put the majority of our penalties away? For a whole season!

We need a change, the 'old' style doesn't work. It's insanity to think that trying again will yield different results.
 
Tbf Andre would have probably played carroll

*not digging up the bones*

They wouldn't have been in the final. They'd have been beaten in the 3rd round. They were complete and utter shit. We beat them twice at the bridge - and we're bollocks - so how shit were they?

Very fucking shit.

And then the same side wins the CL just coz he fucks off. He's a wankbag. AVOID.
 
We need the right change. There's more than enough evidence from Villas Boas' performance at Chelsea to suggest that that isn't what he can provide.
 
Do you believe it was bad luck that we hit the woodwork with almost every shot? Or could put the majority of our penalties away? For a whole season!

We need a change, the 'old' style doesn't work. It's insanity to think that trying again will yield different results.

Well we don't necessary "need" a change to Villas Boas?
 
B/c some of us still want to believe that this team demands something different - I guess, as I've said in other threads, we're like everyone else.
I know what you mean, but sadly we are just going to have to accept reality.
 
So he can't learn from his mistakes then?

Course he can, but you can say that about loads of managers. Many of us said Kenny deserved a season to put right his wrongs. He didn't get it though did he?

We're saying we want to progress, now we're looking at a manager who's had one good season in management, in Portugal and one poor stint over here. His reputation is massively exaggerated because of the Mourinho link. Steve Clarke's had a successful career as an Assistant, would you appoint him?
 
I for one have no idea whether, or how much, he's learned from the experience, mate. His time at Chelsea suggested there's more than a touch of Rafa-type inflexibility about him and, if he has in his own mind the sheer variety of excuses made for him by those on this site who want him, he won't have learned much. I'd also have been happier if more time had elapsed since he got the boot from Abramovich and he'd therefore had more of an opportunity to reflect on where he went wrong. He's an able guy, but I simply don't think he's ready for a job this big.

But, like others have said, I'll support him if he does arrive, though I'll be hoping he doesn't until I hear otherwise.
I'll support whoever the new manager is as well JJ. I didn't even moan when Woy was in charge because I find it distasteful.

Kenny was also inflexible - just look at Downing and Henderson playing week in week out. The reason I think he's appropriate for the job is because LFC need a change in the way they conduct their work. LFC are restructuring big time, if we bring him now, he can work with the owners in the restructuring. With the DOF responsibilities being divided amongst several people, AVB will have more support around him and avoid the player clique and management structure that ultimately lost him the dressing room at Chelsea.
 
Probably not. But he's a step in the right direction. Probably a better step then Martinez.

They both have pros and cons. Martinez definately knows this league better, while Villas showed in Porto he can have a good group performing... Difficult one. It is nice if it works out, but they are both even younger than me even!! That make them very very young 😉
 
Course he can, but you can say that about loads of managers. Many of us said Kenny deserved a season to put right his wrongs. He didn't get it though did he?

We're saying we want to progress, now we're looking at a manager who's had one good season in management, in Portugal and one poor stint over here. His reputation is massively exaggerated because of the Mourinho link. Steve Clarke's had a successful career as an Assistant, would you appoint him?

He didn't, but he's 61. Villa Boas is 34 and starting out in his career.

I'm not getting your point regarding Steve Clarke? It's positive news that he's staying on btw, he has a good reputation as an Assistant Manager.
 
The Porto side with which Villa Boas built his reputation by going undefeated all season, romped to the title this season as well losing only once.
 
His record for Porto was amazing. The team played excellent attacking football and we're extremely hard to beat. The Portugeese league isnt the best, but you have Braga, Sporting and Benfica who certainly showed in the CL and EL that there is quality there. Porto also won the EL, and did so with some really fantastic performances. 10-3 against Spartak Moskva over two games, beating Sevilla away and knocking out Villareal.

He's the manager a lot of us wanted last summer. And in my opinion hasnt been tainted by his stint at Chelsea. Given the job to take over an ageing Chelsea squad and given 6 months to rebuild it. As soon as he benched the senior players the squad divded. Players texting former managers, talking to the owner about their issues with tactics etc. That job is a joke at the moment and Di Matteo sticks with the old boys and has gotten good results. But that doesnt hide the fact that large parts of the squad needs rebuilding.

He obvs made mistakes and I dont think Chelsea were the right club for him in the end.
But he's the sort of gamble we should be making, and he now knows what the EPL is all about.

You just know he'll have a great manager career. This is exactly what we need imho.
 
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