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So who do we want/expect/hope?

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Ajax manager Frank de Boer insists he wants to stay at the club amidst reported interest from Liverpool.
The Merseyside club sacked Kenny Dalglish last week following a disappointing eighth-placed Premier League finish. And the Dutchman, who is believed to be on the Reds' radar after leading the Amsterdam side to two consecutive Eredivisie titles, insists he is not thinking about moving on yet,

"I am honoured by the request, but I am only just starting with Ajax," he told De Telegraaf.

"In Amsterdam we are on a new path along with the club and Wim Jonk and Dennis Bergkamp, my colleagues on the technical side.

"Thats why I will stay loyal to Ajax in the coming years."

The 42-year-old has been in charge at the Dutch club since December 2010, when he initially took the role on an interim basis following now-Fulham boss Martin Jol's resignation.

He spent time as Netherlands assistant boss at the 2010 World Cup and enjoyed a distinguished playing career in which he won five Eredivisie titles and one Champions League.

- Goal.com
 
Send Luis to talk him round. Apart perhaps from Joachim Low, and on the assumption that Mourinho's out of the question, this guy's the only candidate mentioned so far that I'd be seriously interested in.
 
Ajax manager Frank de Boer insists he wants to stay at the club amidst reported interest from Liverpool.
The Merseyside club sacked Kenny Dalglish last week following a disappointing eighth-placed Premier League finish. And the Dutchman, who is believed to be on the Reds' radar after leading the Amsterdam side to two consecutive Eredivisie titles, insists he is not thinking about moving on yet,

"I am honoured by the request, but I am only just starting with Ajax," he told De Telegraaf.

"In Amsterdam we are on a new path along with the club and Wim Jonk and Dennis Bergkamp, my colleagues on the technical side.

"Thats why I will stay loyal to Ajax in the coming years."

The 42-year-old has been in charge at the Dutch club since December 2010, when he initially took the role on an interim basis following now-Fulham boss Martin Jol's resignation.

He spent time as Netherlands assistant boss at the 2010 World Cup and enjoyed a distinguished playing career in which he won five Eredivisie titles and one Champions League.

- Goal.com

well, that's disappointing
 
Pretty embarrsing FDB has turned us down too

All this seems to point to Martinez becoming our manager

I don't know why people think we'd have our choice of managers any way. If ever there's a poisoned managerial chalice it's us. We're just not that attractive a proposition any more
 
whoa, okay, maybe we were better at keeping things in house.

I know what you mean Neil, but how in house can you keep it? Aside from the misguided Tweet last week, what have we really done? Everything is press speculation. 90% of this thread (and most of the hysterics) are based on stuff that's been in the papers or on Twitter. We know fuck all.
 
Pretty embarrsing FDB has turned us down too

All this seems to point to Martinez becoming our manager

What's embarrassing about it? He's just started a new project, people seem to think every time a top club loses a manager that they can cherry pick the replacement. Hardly.
 
So who's left in the running?

AVB
Martinez
Rafa (but it seems we're reluctant to talk with him)
Lambert (Very quiet on this front leads me to think he's being considered)
Capello (something about him turning down Chelsea?)
Promote in-house?

Who else?
 
They've all knocked us back for interviews, not the job, whereas roma have told the press AVB has said he's unavailable.

It's not a great leap to suggest that these managers all know they're being used to make it look like we haven't already chosen the man & the club are also stalling so we have the GM/DoF roles in place.
 
I don't know why people think we'd have our choice of managers any way. If ever there's a poisoned managerial chalice it's us. We're just not that attractive a proposition any more

Although I disagree with the Interview/selection process we are using, its disheartening to think managers with limited experience are knocking us back
 
Although I disagree with the Interview/selection process we are using, its disheartening to think managers with limited experience are knocking us back

If it is Vilas Boas, as many suggestions lead us to believe, we should be fairly happy with that result. Before he went to Chelsea people would have been creaming themselves if he'd come here. If we end up with a Martinez/Rodgers/Lambert type it would show to me how far we have fallen but my choice out of those would be Lambert
 
I know what you mean Neil, but how in house can you keep it? Aside from the misguided Tweet last week, what have we really done? Everything is press speculation. 90% of this thread (and most of the hysterics) are based on stuff that's been in the papers or on Twitter. We know fuck all.

okay, I have to agree, it was whelen who revealed the approach to martinez not the club. I just expected them to reveal the new guy staight and to be fair to FSG they can take another 2 weeks and still have done it faster than it took to hire rafa.
 
If it is Vilas Boas, as many suggestions lead us to believe, we should be fairly happy with that result. Before he went to Chelsea people would have been creaming themselves if he'd come here. If we end up with a Martinez/Rodgers/Lambert type it would show to me how far we have fallen but my choice out of those would be Lambert

I'll go further, if AVB goes to roma and the choice was purely martinez or rafa who would you want?
 
Maybe the manager knocking us back have considered the enormity of the task. Guardiola, Rodgers, FDB all chalked off.

AVB considering his next move. Martinez still in the running but rumoured to be considering the Villa post. Rafa and Capello? Either way it will come to a head soon enough.
 
Although I disagree with the Interview/selection process we are using, its disheartening to think managers with limited experience are knocking us back

Really? Who's knocked us back? Going off some press reports, Rodgers felt he wasn't ready for the step up, and De Boer is at the beginning of a new project, maybe he doesn't want to let those people down? It's early days and already people are out en force labelling us a disaster. You can't have it both ways, we got shot of the manager you've spent ages reminding us you want rid of, and now (a mere week later) we haven't appointed one yet and a couple of managers are mooted to not want to join (for reasons other than they don't think we're an attractive proposition), suddenly it's 'embarrassing'
 
Dont think AVB has learnt from Chelsea experiences, he dropped the big names and they struggled, di matteo plays them and they win champions league. Lambert seems a good shout, especially if we have limited budget
 
I don't know why people think we'd have our choice of managers any way. If ever there's a poisoned managerial chalice it's us. We're just not that attractive a proposition any more

I'd go further and say we are a very unattractive proposition these days; naive owners, some vague 'going forward' plan that includes lots of talk of Financial Fair Play (which probably equals no real money to spend at the moment), fading stars, a decade of stadium talk and no visible action apart from some fenced-off parkland, a sacked idol on the minds of the fans if things don't start well and the massive weight of history and expectation from one day.

It's a poisoned chalice for any good manager in the middle of his career as it could tarnish him forever. That leaves us with a choice of modestly-rated young managers with nothing to lose as they'll naturally sink back to a lower level team if they fail, or a good manager on his last assignment before retirement. And FSG don't appear (publically) to be looking for the latter.
 
Also Inviting managers for an **Interview** isn't really a ringing endorsement.

I bet Pep was delighted to find out he was short-listed.
 
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