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The last round there was Hunt and Boris in the final, with Javid, Gove, Hancock, Raab, Stewart involved in the later stages.
I bet Sunak and Javid will have a go. Maybe Hunt again.

Sunak will almost certainly put his name forward, as will Truss.

There will be various others. Mordaunt probably, Braverman and Baker already kinda declared, Javid possibly, Wallace possibly, Kwarteng possibly.

They tend to spend a few days phoning around trying to get support before declaring properly.
 
Sunak will almost certainly put his name forward, as will Truss.

There will be various others. Mordaunt probably, Braverman and Baker already kinda declared, Javid possibly, Wallace possibly, Kwarteng possibly.

They tend to spend a few days phoning around trying to get support before declaring properly.

Who do you think will get it?
 
Truss will probably still be around, and quite probably Raab. I imagine Patel will get the boot and Mogg and Dorries almost certainly will.
Truss who doesn't know where the Rostov-on-Don is.. but incredibly is the foreign secretary.

You couldn't make it up.
 
Javid and Sunak have a pact, pretty sure of it. Both are rightwingers who will cut help to the poor and reduce taxes for the rich.
 
Shes a braver man than me.



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Seriously what a predictable shite load of candidates…
Rory Stewart would be my choice if I had to pick but then he’s no longer a Tory.
 
I can see him doing well if he's one of the final two. What his chances may be of getting that far, I'm not sure. From a distance I'd have guessed a number of other candidates might have more of a power base among the parliamentary party.
 
The final choice comes down to 100,000 daily mail reading old farts, so whoever that is will talk more about hating on minorities than talking about policies
 
If Boris stays on till October, is he not likely to try and engineer a further extension? Regardless him staying on feels like will do cause more chaos than just replacing him now.
 
I doubt he'll be allowed to stay on till October. Now he's made that choice, I'm betting the 1922 Committee will change its rules next week to allow a second No Confidence vote, he'll lose it and he'll have to go. I say that because I strongly suspect most of his party agree with what you say in your second sentence.
 
I doubt he'll be allowed to stay on till October. Now he's made that choice, I'm betting the 1922 Committee will change its rules next week to allow a second No Confidence vote, he'll lose it and he'll have to go. I say that because I strongly suspect most of his party agree with what you say in your second sentence.

They need to change the rules anyway from the no more votes within 12 months.
It didn't work with May or Boris. May left 4 months after the vote and Boris just 4 weeks after.
 
I doubt he'll be allowed to stay on till October. Now he's made that choice, I'm betting the 1922 Committee will change its rules next week to allow a second No Confidence vote, he'll lose it and he'll have to go. I say that because I strongly suspect most of his party agree with what you say in your second sentence.

I'm not sure if that will make a difference at this point. If the 1922 Committee/Tory MPs vote no confidence in him he would need to resign as Tory leader and PM, that is true, but he has already done that essentially.

It's very standard for PMs to stay on while a successor is chosen. They tend to resign as party leader to trigger a contest and then when the contest is over they go to the Queen, resign and recommend that the Queen asks the winner to form a govt. It is what Cameron did, what May did, what Blair did and what Thatcher did. Otherwise our history would have a number of PMs that were only there for a month or so.

What Boris has done isn't any different. I can see why people might be suspicious, and I wouldn't put it past him either to change his mind, but I imagine he probably won't.
 
If Boris stays on till October, is he not likely to try and engineer a further extension? Regardless him staying on feels like will do cause more chaos than just replacing him now.

If he's here until October, he'll be in office longer than Theresa May, in fact he only needs to hold on another month. That, or he wants his wedding to go ahead in Chequers...
 
tom tugendhat seems like the least worst choice to me. Ok he's big into the military and he's got a stake in a company that supplies loads of stuff to the NHS so he's well and truly in the trough, but unlike all the others I believe what comes out of his mouth and I don't want to vomit when he turns up on TV. So he's got no chance. It'll be Truss.
 
The most frustrating part is that now they won't do a fucking thing to try and help anyone. At least pressure was mounting on sunak and johnson to help with the cost of living crisis.

Now they don't have to do a fucking thing
 
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What Jurgen Klopp has said on Boris Johnson as Prime Minister resigns


Boris Johnson has finally resigned as UK prime minister, amid an unprecedented collapse of his cabinet, with Jurgen Klopp no doubt among those delighted.
More than 50 MPs quit their posts within the government earlier this week in a show of zero faith in Johnson as prime minister, with chancellor Rishi Sunak and health secretary Sajid Javid among those to depart.
On Wednesday evening, cabinet minister Michael Gove was sacked after urging Johnson to resign, but less than 24 hours later, the 58-year-old has now done so.
Johnson announced his decision in a brief address outside 10 Downing Street on Thursday afternoon, with his exit not before time following a heinous reign in charge.
No Tory MP, even those who have resigned, should come away from this situation with any credit, and the UK remains in a state of flux in terms of its leadership in what can safely be described as a crisis.
But Johnson’s resignation is undoubtedly a positive one for the public, with Klopp among those to have spoken out against his position in the past.
“Obviously people with common sense are not needed – or used, at least – in this time,” the Liverpool manager told Gabby Logan on her podcast The Mid-Point in November.


“They should be, but what is the problem, the people we vote for or the whole system which gives us the opportunity to vote for these kinds of people?
“I really have to say that the last two elections, the first with Donald Trump and then with Boris Johnson, that’s really a bad sign for the whole world, that something like this can happen.
“Because everybody knew beforehand that it would not work, but we still let it happen as a society.
“I cannot believe that. But [Trump] is now gone, the other one struggles still. It’s incredible.”
Klopp added: “We have to find a system where we can bring people in the position to sort all our problems, or help us with sorting the problems, who are the best possible people.
“And not the most funny or the weirdest haircut or whatever, you have to have the right people in that.
“[We should] not [be] voting for them and accepting for this specific amount of time that they are there now, and you look at it and go ‘oh my god, that’s not funny anymore’.”
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Johnson and Trump were not the only politicians in Klopp’s firing line, either, with the German questioning the ability of the outgoing prime minister to survive along with Nigel Farage.
“Why do we let people like Farage and Johnson lead any kind of group of people in any direction?” he asked.
“And the day after [a problem] happens, they disappear – and one of them comes back!
“How can we forget? It’s like ‘where has he been?’, that’s absolutely insane. Then we sit here and think ‘it’s not that bad’.”



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Quite a lot of this sort of chatter about, reckoning it's a ploy to hang in there and roll the dice further down the line, because he hasn't *actually* resigned:



 
Boris made a bad enemy when he got rid of Cummings, who's behaved ever since like a jilted ex who turns up on your doorstep with a pair of garden shears.
 
I hope the next person in has the same taste as Johnson and his current wife’s home decor, otherwise a lot of waste for all thay hassle.
 
Turmoil across the world it seems, Japans former PM shot dead during a speech.

Yet more lockdows in China for Covid
 
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