The new number 9…

[Fabio]

Lots of noise that we will make a push for Isak as hes stalling on a new deal.

Can't see it myself.

I've seen that. I'm similar in that I can't see it. I would imagine that we would be pitching it as "now or never" to him

 

[Buddha]

Lots of noise that we will make a push for Isak as hes stalling on a new deal.

Can't see it myself.

 

[Hyena]

So here's one. The dog in asterix is called dogmatix, and when I was a little kid I just took the dog thing and didn't worry about the true meaning, although I'm sure my dad explained it to me. But in the original french he's called idefix, a pun on fixed idea, so the translation is dogmatix, which coincidentally has the dog prefix.

So.
I read your post and it dawned on me that thw druid is called Getafix. I'm officially an idiot.

 

[Hyena]

I've seen that. I'm similar in that I can't see it. I would imagine that we would be pitching it as "now or never" to him

Yup.

What's Isak going to do about it though? He belongs to the richest autocracy in the world.

 

[StevieM]

Yup.

What's Isak going to do about it though? He belongs to the richest autocracy in the world.

Avoid Saudi Embassies for the rest of his life?

 

[Fabio]

Personally, I still wouldn't overly want Isak for the cost of him

 

[keniget]

The resigning of VVD and Salah coupled with the statement signing of Wirtz would suggest that we're looking to maximize our current position (if only we could've done the same under Klopp) so spending 100M on someone super raw feels like it perhaps wouldn't strike the right balance between short term and medium/long term. But then neither does spending a large sum on Gyokeres or even more on Isak.

I'd like to believe there is some moneyball signing that 6 months into next season will have us all saying "damn, shoulda signed that guy" but yeah it's looking pretty thin on the ground.

Maybe the best move is to wait.

 

[Hyena]

Wait and sign a seasoned stop gap is what I think we will do.

 

[Frogfish]

The resigning of VVD and Salah coupled with the statement signing of Wirtz would suggest that we're looking to maximize our current position (if only we could've done the same under Klopp) so spending 100M on someone super raw feels like it perhaps wouldn't strike the right balance between short term and medium/long term. But then neither does spending a large sum on Gyokeres or even more on Isak.

I'd like to believe there is some moneyball signing that 6 months into next season will have us all saying "damn, shoulda signed that guy" but yeah it's looking pretty thin on the ground.

Maybe the best move is to wait.

Waiting may be the prudent move. I can hear the wailing in my ears from some SCM quarters already.

That would likely mean keeping Diaz and Jota and maybe Danns will get a few games too.

 

[Fabio]

Waiting may be the prudent move. I can hear the wailing in my ears from some SCM quarters already.

That would likely mean keeping Diaz and Jota and maybe Danns will get a few games too.

If we're going to be reliant on shite at the 9 then we may as well keep Nunez as well.

 

[Beamrider]

Yup.

What's Isak going to do about it though? He belongs to the richest autocracy in the world.

Newcastle belongs to the Saudis, not the Americans.

 

[Hansern]

Ekitike is probably the one we go for. Isak sounds like a pipe dream which will be extremely expensive and probably not worth the risk in all honesty. Martinez isnt what we need or should go for financially.

 

[Frogfish]

If we're going to be reliant on shite at the 9 then we may as well keep Nunez as well.

Well we won the PL with 'shite' at #9 last season !

I still think we need a 5th, very good, CB.


Gakpo/Diaz ------- Diaz/Jota ------------- Salah/Frimpong (AFCON)

--------------------------------- Wirtz/Szobo

------------ Macca/Jones

------------------- Gravy / Baj or Endo

Kerkez / Robbo ------------------------------ Bradley / Frimpong

--------- VvD/Gomez ------ Konate / Quansah

---------------------- Ali / Mash

 

[tomasjj]

Seško, please.

 

[Hansern]

He seems to be headed to Arsenal I think.

 

[keniget]

He's probably the best value given the release clause but his numbers are a kinda on the low side. Maybe next season will be his break out numbers wise.

 

[Hansern]

Leipzig want 80 mill for him, or that his release clause is paid in full, 65 mill £.
He'll be very expensive as well.

 

[Fabio]

It's a sellers market. If we want a striker we're paying big bucks. The longer we leave it the higher the numbers will go

I still think we'll go for Ekitike, as he's cheaper than Isak.

 

[KopRed]

If we can't shift Nunez or Diaz for what we want, I suspect it will be Jota, Diaz false 9, Wirtz false 9 as our main strikers. We won't bring anyone else in up front.

Darwin will be offloaded to some chancer club on loan with an option to buy near the end of the window.

 

[Frogfish]

Leipzig want 80 mill for him, or that his release clause is paid in full, 65 mill £.
He'll be very expensive as well.

Is that very expensive in this market?

 

[peterhague]

It's a sellers market. If we want a striker we're paying big bucks. The longer we leave it the higher the numbers will go

I still think we'll go for Ekitike, as he's cheaper than Isak.

That's like having Pedigree Chum for tea because it's cheaper than fillet steak.

 

[singlerider]

I wonder how football transfer inflation stacks up against regular inflation?

Like it seems as though a £30M player ten years ago is like an £80-90M player these days, but other stuff whilst it's gone up loads - hasn't tripled in cost

 

[Frogfish]

I wonder how football transfer inflation stacks up against regular inflation?

Like it seems as though a £30M player ten years ago is like an £80-90M player these days, but other stuff whilst it's gone up loads - hasn't tripled in cost

The BoE inflation calculator says £30m in 1995 should be £61.49m today.

 

[Fabio]

That's like having Pedigree Chum for tea because it's cheaper than fillet steak.

Nah. He's better than that.

End of the day, right now we do not have a consistent 9, and we have all the tools to maximise a consistent 9.

 

[Hansern]

Is that very expensive in this market?

Its close to what Frankfurt want for Ekitike, 85 mill £. Its pretty expensive given that your basically buying potential at this stage.

 

[MomoWASright]

I wonder how football transfer inflation stacks up against regular inflation?

Like it seems as though a £30M player ten years ago is like an £80-90M player these days, but other stuff whilst it's gone up loads - hasn't tripled in cost

I’m sure I saw something saying Shearer’s transfer to Newcastle is the equivalent of £200m in today’s market.

 

[Frogfish]

I’m sure I saw something saying Shearer’s transfer to Newcastle is the equivalent of £200m in today’s market.

Nowhere near ! £15m in 1996 would be £30.02m today (adjusted for inflation).

 

[MomoWASright]

Nowhere near ! £15m in 1996 would be £30.02m today (adjusted for inflation).

Football inflation not actual inflation

 

[peterhague]

Football inflation not actual inflation

Yeah. Price inflation is basically a function of the amount of money chasing particular goods or assets. In football's case it's almost exactly correlated with the tv money clubs earn, and that's gone up way beyond general price inflation. Firstly because of Sky, then Sky squeezing its customers ever harder, then finally the global audience for PL exploding and foreign TV rights with it.

I think prices have settled down recently, though, tbf. I don't think Wirtz would've been that much cheaper 5 years ago. Didn't Grealish go to City for £100m 4 years ago?

 

[Beamrider]

Football inflation not actual inflation

Yeah, the previous record had been Collymore to us for £8.5m the year before. Shearer's was a massive jump up in just 12 months.