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Not sure we're getting both. Seems like one or the other.
We're just checking if Palace will lower their price.
 
I have zero doubt that that is the case

We spent 20 million on him - he isn't some free transfer

FSG sanctioned that as a solution for the next couple of years. The line that will be peddled is that Caicedo was a player worth spending 100 million on, but since there was no one else on the market good enough to justify such an outlay, we found a capable solution to hold fort for a couple of years.
 
You're all focusing on the wrong thing. We're not going to win the league so chill out. Instead, head over to redcafe and theshedend to see them all crying about the wasted billions they've spent and how they're going to finish below us despite us spending three eighths of fuck all on a DM noone has ever heard of.
 
I have zero doubt that that is the case

We spent 20 million on him - he isn't some free transfer

FSG sanctioned that as a solution for the next couple of years. The line that will be peddled is that Caicedo was a player worth spending 100 million on, but since there was no one else on the market good enough to justify such an outlay, we found a capable solution to hold fort for a couple of years.

It will be until the next window. That would make sense if there aren't any good DMs available now at a good price.
 
If there was someone else than Jimbo Pearce reporting it, it might be worth getting upset over.
But as thing stand it doesnt mean anything. We denied interest in Alisson and Thiago before signing them...

There will be at least one more midfielder signed, but sadly the Andre signing doesnt look like it can happen until January.
 
Endo has been bought to start Liverpool matches – they aren’t targeting another No 6 this summer

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By James Pearce
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This wasn’t the time to judge Wataru Endo. Talk about being thrown in at the deep end.
With just one training session under his belt, Liverpool’s third signing of the summer was handed his debut off the bench against Bournemouth as Jurgen Klopp tried to inject some calm into proceedings. The dismissal of Alexis Mac Allister had been swiftly followed by Diogo Jota firing the hosts into a 3-1 lead.
“Horrible,” was how his manager described the circumstances around Endo’s Anfield bow, given the red card and sudden change of formation.
But the Japan international completed 15 of his 17 passes (88 per cent) and made a tackle, an interception and two clearances during the final half-hour as Bournemouth were kept at bay.
“I spoke this morning (Saturday) with him about how with 11 players his position would look, but a 4-4-1 was not involved in our conversation,” said Klopp. “I don’t think he slept a lot in the last two nights but he threw everything on the pitch he had.”
Klopp has staked a lot more on the signing of Endo than simply the £16.2million fee ($20.7m) Liverpool will pay Stuttgart for the holding midfielder’s services.
It’s a left-field solution to the most glaring weakness in the squad that needed addressing following the departures of Fabinho and Jordan Henderson to Saudi Arabia last month.
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Endo went straight into the thick of the action (Andrew Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images)
The underwhelming reaction in some quarters was understandable. In the space of a week, Liverpool went from agreeing what would have been a British transfer record fee of £111million with Brighton for Moises Caicedo to signing someone nine years older for a seventh of the price.
The hammer blows of first Caicedo and then Romeo Lavia deciding to join Chelsea forced a major rethink. Even Endo himself was surprised, having admitted that at the age of 30, he thought his dream of gracing the Premier League would never be fulfilled.
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GO DEEPER
Endo thought Liverpool had completed Caicedo move before 'crazy' week
Yet Klopp doesn’t view this deal as some kind of consolation prize or merely a stop-gap. The fact the “late bloomer” has been given a four-year contract is telling.
“We really need you, and your heart, your legs, your football ability, your football brain and your desire,” he told Endo after embracing him following his arrival at Liverpool’s training ground.
Klopp had to convince the owners that Endo, who has been used to fighting relegation with Stuttgart, was worth deviating from the club’s usual transfer policy of targeting younger players. Thiago is the only other player over the age of 26 they have paid a fee for since Ragnar Klavan in 2016.
The Liverpool manager has drawn parallels with James Milner, who was 29 when he signed for Liverpool from Manchester City. Having worn the armband for both club and country, Endo is certainly a leader, but it requires a major leap of faith to believe he will prove to be similarly influential.
As things stand, Liverpool don’t intend to recruit another specialist No 6 this summer – another sign of how highly Klopp regards Endo. He’s been bought to start matches.
With Stefan Bajcetic returning to the matchday squad on Saturday after five months out injured, the teenager is viewed as a suitable alternative in that role.
What Liverpool are still in the market for, however, is another multi-functional midfielder. They have a long-standing interest in Ryan Gravenberch but Bayern Munich’s stance all summer has been that he’s not for sale.
The Netherlands international, who was an unused substitute against Werder Bremen on Friday, has found his opportunities limited in Germany since moving from Ajax for £21million last summer. If Bayern’s position changes and they are prepared to consider offers, then Liverpool would be part of that conversation.
Klopp’s squad still has the look of being unfinished. Another option in midfield is crucial to complement what they have. Ideally, they would also reinforce defensively.
After a summer in which Milner, Naby Keita, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Arthur Melo, Henderson, Roberto Firmino and Fabinho all left and Fabio Carvalho was loaned to RB Leipzig, they have recruited Mac Allister, Dominik Szoboszlai and Endo.
The midfield department is still light. Thiago is close to a return but you can’t bank on a player who has been limited to just 71 starts across three seasons. His availability needs to be regarded as a bonus.
If Liverpool can’t get Mac Allister’s red card overturned for his challenge on Ryan Christie, then the Argentine’s absence because of suspension will be keenly felt.
It was a day of contrasting home debuts – the devastation etched on the face of the World Cup winner as he departed down the tunnel compared to the smile and swagger of Szoboszlai, who deservedly walked away with the man of the match award.
The Hungary captain, who combines great athleticism with technical ability, has fitted in seamlessly and was integral in ensuring Liverpool recovered from a wretched, error-strewn start after which they were fortunate not to find themselves more than one goal behind.
Klopp’s side are still worryingly vulnerable to counter-attacks when they lose possession and that has to be addressed before next Sunday’s trip to Newcastle United. The protection and organisation has to be better.
St James’ Park looks set to be the venue for Endo’s full debut. It will be a big week on the training field trying to ensure he’s up to speed.
Klopp loves an underdog story — his admiration for the Rocky film franchise is well known.
If the largely unheralded Endo – who took the long road to Anfield via Shonan Bellmare, Urawa Red Diamonds, Sint-Truiden and Stuttgart – lights up the Premier League and gives Liverpool what they so desperately require in terms of a defensive shield, then it will be a tale to rival Balboa’s.
(Top photo: Andrew Powell/Liverpool FC via Getty Images)
 
Have FSG really put a break on the spending? If so that's outrageous and I take back anything good I said about these lizards.
 
Failed to land 1st choice targets > Move for alternative option > Stress how the manager has faith/pushed to sign that player

"see, we give in to your request, if it doesn't work, the fault is yours"
 
It sounds like we’re in for Gravenberch ‘if’ Bayern make him available…and then Andre in January.

Let’s hope Endo makes the most of his chance here and that Badger stays for and offers the huge potential he seems to hold.
 
We are in a chronic habit of punting on entire seasons waiting for the right player. As if there is no cost to giving up on a season.

The club exists to try and win trophies every year, and not to constantly take some misconceived long-term view.

In the short-term, other teams strengthen, and your own players become older leaving you with a whole new area to strengthen later. It's a vicious cycle, and FSG (and possibly Klopp) never seem to learn.
 
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You're all focusing on the wrong thing. We're not going to win the league so chill out. Instead, head over to redcafe and theshedend to see them all crying about the wasted billions they've spent and how they're going to finish below us despite us spending three eighths of fuck all on a DM noone has ever heard of.

No, no you’re missing an even bigger point.

Caicedo, most expensive player in PL history, not forgetting Lavia too, their new team of galacticos were trashed by David Moyes.

And in other news, BlueShite are early contenders for relegation.

So I don’t know what we’re all moaning about.
 
No, no you’re missing an even bigger point.

Caicedo, most expensive player in PL history, not forgetting Lavia too, their new team of galacticos were trashed by David Moyes.

And in other news, BlueShite are early contenders for relegation.

So I don’t know what we’re all moaning about.
I wouldn't say trashed. Chelsea could have won that game.
 
One thing I don't understand about the potential Gravenberch transfer is why would he want to join us?
The problem at Bayern is that he's not getting time on the pitch. Will he get that here if he's not playing as a 6?

Considering the Ajax connection, why doesn't Ten Hag want him?

I prefer Doucoure to be honest, but with Gravenberch there's no AFCON to consider and we've already got two Dutch players and a few Dutch staff members so he'll fit right in.

Lots to consider.
 
One thing I don't understand about the potential Gravenberch transfer is why would he want to join us?
The problem at Bayern is that he's not getting time on the pitch. Will he get that here if he's not playing as a 6?

Considering the Ajax connection, why doesn't Ten Hag want him?

I prefer Doucoure to be honest, but with Gravenberch there's no AFCON to consider and we've already got two Dutch players and a few Dutch staff members so he'll fit right in.

Lots to consider.

We should probably just sign Thuram instead.
 
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