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Burnley v Liverpool Match Thread
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My recipe for solidifying the midfield was to put Miler there.
Way too much praise for these two imo. Can was moved deeper in the first half as both of them were struggling badly. Klavan should have been closer to Matip for the first goal (and if he didn't then Matip should have been telling him that). Matip looked like he had only started to learn to head the ball today.
Clyne is doing my head in, he's useless going forward. Couldn't beat an egg.
Clyne was nowhere near his man who scored the goal. Tough to blame the CBs
This the way I saw it (excuse the shitty image). Can should be closing down the player with the ball. Milner Can't press the ball due to the winger on his left. Winji should be tracking the central runner and Klavan should be shifting closer to Matip (and Matip should be screaming at him, as he's doing fuck all in that position).
Clyne also has a winger to watch, but he has to cover as he sees the situation in the middle developing, he tries and fails, but if the central defenders had been doing a better job then he shouldn't have had to. Also Can should be doing a better job of stopping the through ball.
This the way I saw it (excuse the shitty image). Can should be closing down the player with the ball. Milner Can't press the ball due to the winger on his left. Winji should be tracking the central runner and Klavan should be shifting closer to Matip (and Matip should be screaming at him, as he's doing fuck all in that position).
Clyne also has a winger to watch, but he has to cover as he sees the situation in the middle developing, he tries and fails, but if the central defenders had been doing a better job then he shouldn't have had to. Also Can should be doing a better job of stopping the through ball.
Dunno. I thought Klavan was too far from Milner and, had he been closer, would have been in position to cut out the throughball. There was a lot of space in between Klavan and Milner for much of the game and Burnley often sought to exploit it.
This the way I saw it (excuse the shitty image). Can should be closing down the player with the ball. Milner Can't press the ball due to the winger on his left. Winji should be tracking the central runner and Klavan should be shifting closer to Matip (and Matip should be screaming at him, as he's doing fuck all in that position).
Clyne also has a winger to watch, but he has to cover as he sees the situation in the middle developing, he tries and fails, but if the central defenders had been doing a better job then he shouldn't have had to. Also Can should be doing a better job of stopping the through ball.
It was a great ball. Inch perfect. The defensive line was decent but too high. The midfielders should have been tracking the fullbacks but they were nowhere near.
Which was exactly the same for Arsenal's goal last week.
There's that old cliche about results being the only important thing that counts at this stage of the season. I think like that all the time. So three points is the most important factor here. Of course, there is much to be discussed besides that, and little of it is positive.
But if we were to distill the issues right down to their essence, it's the usual story: we don't have enough genuinely top quality players, and we pretend we have more than we actually do.
No team who has pretensions to win the title can have footballers like Origi and Klavan EVER starting games. Or have footballers like Lallana, Firmino, Mignolet, Wijnaldum and Matip as guaranteed first team players. Or Milner as the best LB in the team.
We require about 6 signings in summer, and they need to be top quality. Not just 'OK'. Klopp's delusional loyalty and belief in mediocre talent needs to end. Because we may have beaten Burnley, but we were poor in doing so.
Mignolet (6) didn't have many saves to make and was beaten by their only shot on target. But was left totally exposed for the goal. Two fine punched clearances and some slow, inaccurate distribution. Same same.
Clyne (6) didn't track the runner for their goal, and was wasteful in possession. But he made some excellent attacking runs and never stopped working. Sometimes lacks that bit of consistent quality that elevates a good Premiership player into something more special
Matip (5) seems to be taking his 'Poundshop Alan Hansen' impression a bit far by also trying to replicate Jocky's total lack of aerial ability. Some of the most laughable attempts at headers I have ever seen.
Klavan (5) didn't seem to be in the pitch for the first 20 minutes, as an increasingly desperate Emre Can tried to cover the gaps Klavan and Matip were leaving. Once he'd turned up he was wholehearted and made a few solid challenges, but he's clearly not very good.
Milner (5) clump clump clump clump. Clump. Clump clump clump. Will someone please give James Milner a day off!
Can (6) oh Emre. Lots of industry and a fantastic winning goal. What more could we ask for? Well, let's see: winning more tackles, not bottling it, passing to your own players more than the opposition, and being a calm, reassuring influence. Not sure we will ever trust him.
Wijnaldum (7) the ultimate homer scores again. We should try and get a good enough squad so that he doesn't actually have to play away from home ever again. Got a bit lucky with his goal, but scored with his second attempt. Needs to show a bit more aggression and nastiness in midfield.
Lallana (5) he's either very good, mediocre or totally shite. This was one of his more mediocre displays, with some halfhearted buzzing around, a few nice turns, and not much else.
Mane (5) we probably expect too much from Mane, but the burden of being our only reliable goal scorer and attacker with any pace creates its own expectations. Very ordinary, but that's atypical.
Coutinho (3) dreadful
Origi (5) He's not really very good, as we all know, so this wasn't exactly a surprise. Not sure he even had a shot on target. Should join Klavan, Lucas, Moreno, Mignolet, Karius, Firmino, Can, Stewart, and the rest in the summer exodus.
But if we were to distill the issues right down to their essence, it's the usual story: we don't have enough genuinely top quality players, and we pretend we have more than we actually do.
No team who has pretensions to win the title can have footballers like Origi and Klavan EVER starting games. Or have footballers like Lallana, Firmino, Mignolet, Wijnaldum and Matip as guaranteed first team players. Or Milner as the best LB in the team.
We require about 6 signings in summer, and they need to be top quality. Not just 'OK'. Klopp's delusional loyalty and belief in mediocre talent needs to end. Because we may have beaten Burnley, but we were poor in doing so.
Mignolet (6) didn't have many saves to make and was beaten by their only shot on target. But was left totally exposed for the goal. Two fine punched clearances and some slow, inaccurate distribution. Same same.
Clyne (6) didn't track the runner for their goal, and was wasteful in possession. But he made some excellent attacking runs and never stopped working. Sometimes lacks that bit of consistent quality that elevates a good Premiership player into something more special
Matip (5) seems to be taking his 'Poundshop Alan Hansen' impression a bit far by also trying to replicate Jocky's total lack of aerial ability. Some of the most laughable attempts at headers I have ever seen.
Klavan (5) didn't seem to be in the pitch for the first 20 minutes, as an increasingly desperate Emre Can tried to cover the gaps Klavan and Matip were leaving. Once he'd turned up he was wholehearted and made a few solid challenges, but he's clearly not very good.
Milner (5) clump clump clump clump. Clump. Clump clump clump. Will someone please give James Milner a day off!
Can (6) oh Emre. Lots of industry and a fantastic winning goal. What more could we ask for? Well, let's see: winning more tackles, not bottling it, passing to your own players more than the opposition, and being a calm, reassuring influence. Not sure we will ever trust him.
Wijnaldum (7) the ultimate homer scores again. We should try and get a good enough squad so that he doesn't actually have to play away from home ever again. Got a bit lucky with his goal, but scored with his second attempt. Needs to show a bit more aggression and nastiness in midfield.
Lallana (5) he's either very good, mediocre or totally shite. This was one of his more mediocre displays, with some halfhearted buzzing around, a few nice turns, and not much else.
Mane (5) we probably expect too much from Mane, but the burden of being our only reliable goal scorer and attacker with any pace creates its own expectations. Very ordinary, but that's atypical.
Coutinho (3) dreadful
Origi (5) He's not really very good, as we all know, so this wasn't exactly a surprise. Not sure he even had a shot on target. Should join Klavan, Lucas, Moreno, Mignolet, Karius, Firmino, Can, Stewart, and the rest in the summer exodus.
But we scored two and won!
Despite having Origi instead of Firmino.
Stop that Jack, Brendan's head might explode.
He made two assists apparently. Awesome.
Brendan, for the most part I do like you and you can one of the better posters on 6CM. But when you post shite like that you really let yourself down.
As for the goals, yeah we got 2, but we were awful up front. Very lucky to come away with all 3 points.
I know. We were shit. And so was Origi.
True, but Gini seems to like it.
Footballers are complete fucking dickheads.
Gini the Pooh..
With to much money and time to waste.
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