Take Peterson/Green or someone and get Luck next year?
NFL Off-Season 2011
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Nobody is going to pay $60m for a player other teams can just throw away from. Green (or Jones) would be a great pick except for that they have nobody to throw for. I'm not sure you can plan this year's draft based on what you expect from next year. Luck will go number one, so should Carolina not try to win a game all season? Should they pick Green and say "just hang around a bit, it'll all be fine next year. Assuming we lose very game and our presumptive pick doesn't blow out his knee or demand to play for someone else"? That type of planning is madness. What if St Louis had said the same about Jake Locker last year? How hard would we be laughing now?
I'm not advocating him as the number one best player in the world ZOMG!, but if they are dead set on bringing in a QB this year, then I don't see what the fuss about. He's a good player and has great potential. Anyone who says otherwise is blind. All QBs have bust potential (Tim Couch?) but I think a little too much is being made of some pretty spurious reporting about the lad. He's clearly not NFL ready, and you wonder whether he has the dedication to spend his early years doing nothing but watching tape, but the natural ability is there. If Carolina think they can make it work (and at this point it's pretty moot - I think the decision is made. Let's just hope they don't make us wait seven minutes) then it makes as much sense to me as any other pick.
A more interesting issue to me is whether Denver will take Dareus or unload both barrels into their foot again. Denver and Buffalo at two and three has the potential to be hilarious, but you'd fancy it's Dareus/Miller in whatever combination for the two of them. Arizona is also interesting, especially with Larry more or less saying he doesn't want Gabbert.
I'm not advocating him as the number one best player in the world ZOMG!, but if they are dead set on bringing in a QB this year, then I don't see what the fuss about. He's a good player and has great potential. Anyone who says otherwise is blind. All QBs have bust potential (Tim Couch?) but I think a little too much is being made of some pretty spurious reporting about the lad. He's clearly not NFL ready, and you wonder whether he has the dedication to spend his early years doing nothing but watching tape, but the natural ability is there. If Carolina think they can make it work (and at this point it's pretty moot - I think the decision is made. Let's just hope they don't make us wait seven minutes) then it makes as much sense to me as any other pick.
A more interesting issue to me is whether Denver will take Dareus or unload both barrels into their foot again. Denver and Buffalo at two and three has the potential to be hilarious, but you'd fancy it's Dareus/Miller in whatever combination for the two of them. Arizona is also interesting, especially with Larry more or less saying he doesn't want Gabbert.
Yeah was gonna say Peterson is unlikely due to his position and the salary involved. I know waiting for Luck is a dangerous game, but I just don't see it with Newton.
It's a pretty bad year, to be honest, exacerbated by the lack of free agency. I'm not sure what the court ruling is going to do, whether teams are suddenly going to go FA spastic in the hours leading up to the draft. Everything seems a bit up in the air.
Personally, I hope Carolina take Dareus, then Denver take Newton and take to the field with a wildcat double-double-threat line up next year.
Good that ESPN are covering the draft though.
Personally, I hope Carolina take Dareus, then Denver take Newton and take to the field with a wildcat double-double-threat line up next year.
Good that ESPN are covering the draft though.
I'm hoping that they're gonna allow players to be traded in the draft. Any chance of that still being agreed beforehand?
The league are saying thy can't draw up or implement rules until their appeal is heard, so I don't think player trades will be on the board. I expect a piss load of pick trades though. Especially from the Pats. It's like they love holding the best hand year after year but never really cash it in.
and he is.
If we hadn't have turned good in the last month he'd have been ours
If we hadn't have turned good in the last month he'd have been ours
Falcons trade up for Julio Jones
1st round pick (#6) for 1st round (#27), 2nd round, 4th round, and 2012 1st round and 4th round.
Insane.
Still, if it wins them the Superbowl...
Insane.
Still, if it wins them the Superbowl...
That is a crazy trade, that should propel Matt Ryan into the elite conversation with elite numbers. They gave up a lot but now have the best WR core in the NFL, and they are both very good blockers and should draw a lot of attention so it should improve their run game also. I see a lot of uncalled offensive pass interference from their team next year.
Cowboys pick coming up is big for Detroit... they could either take Tyron or Prince...
Tyron Smith to Dallas.
Gabbert drops to Minnesota... meaning Prince to the Motor City?
Gabbert drops to Minnesota... meaning Prince to the Motor City?
Got a bad feeling it's Fairley
we have a chap called Ndamukong Suh though
we're trying to trade down apparently.
Looks like Jimmy Smith then?
we're trying to trade down apparently.
Looks like Jimmy Smith then?
Panic pick by Vikings.
Vikings go Ponder QB, a real run on QBs... Panic pick is probably right.
yeah I know who Suh is, but if you got Fairley also you'd be the number 1 run defense for the next 5 years. That kind of dominance is always good. But yeah you guys are really hard to predict here but the CBs are there.
yeah I know who Suh is, but if you got Fairley also you'd be the number 1 run defense for the next 5 years. That kind of dominance is always good. But yeah you guys are really hard to predict here but the CBs are there.
and still no secondary
I guess it stops Suh from being double teamed
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thought prince would go sooner
and still no secondary
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thought prince would go sooner
