[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44633.msg1332709#msg1332709 date=1305291322]
[quote author=themn link=topic=44633.msg1332655#msg1332655 date=1305288037]
He fucking said that shit, Andy Bell, and if he didn't (but he did) he DID need to make a statement to correct things.
I'm glad he's staying but don't act like Pepe's blameless and people didn't have a right to be fucked off.
I spent the best part of 2 years being a Mad Dog Wolverine at anybody who suggested that Torres was going to Chelsea.
That last Friday in January changed everything for me.
I'll be happy loving The Dirkilizer and the rest of 'em can do whatever.
[/quote]Im not 'acting like hes blameless' im suggesting that i trust Pepe more than the press. And a denial would have made it worse for me.
I dunno if he said that shit, or even what context he said it in, and im not arsed. The fact is promises were made that were broken as Stevie and other players have mentioned.
The americans (by the end of their reign) had presided over a fucking shambles where the likes of Alonso and Mascherano were being sold and Voronin and Poulsen being brought in. We went from being top 4 challenging to bottom 4 with Roy in charge and at that time the future of the club in doubt. This after being told investment was coming (as we all were) by Tom and George. He had every right (as one of only three world class players left in thw squad) to say he was pissed off and/or never say never to leaving and getting the fuck out of dodge and going any-fucking-where. He wasnt employed by the fans he was employed by the club who had LIED to him to get him to sign a new deal. Maybe he said those things IN context, if he did then it was ill advised but IF Tom and George had stayed and we had continued on the downward trend we were on, then ill be honest i would forgive world class players getting the hump and fucking off.
The reason im pissed off with Torres is that he saw the bright new dawn but used the past regime as an excuse to leave like a chief. Thats precisely why im willing to give Pepe the benefit of the doubt, hes seen things change and said fair enough, promises were broken but thats in the past and i like where we are going and want to fight to get us there (in the process miss two years o champions league football) then i say fair enough. We all said some things we shouldnt have but i for one will love Pepe pulling on our shirt next year, and will only remove this love i have for him if he does a Torres.
Hopefully his concerns are being addressed and he can see out his career here winning medals.
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Well said. My sentiments exactly.
[quote author=themn link=topic=44633.msg1332655#msg1332655 date=1305288037]
He fucking said that shit, Andy Bell, and if he didn't (but he did) he DID need to make a statement to correct things.
I'm glad he's staying but don't act like Pepe's blameless and people didn't have a right to be fucked off.
I spent the best part of 2 years being a Mad Dog Wolverine at anybody who suggested that Torres was going to Chelsea.
That last Friday in January changed everything for me.
I'll be happy loving The Dirkilizer and the rest of 'em can do whatever.
[/quote]Im not 'acting like hes blameless' im suggesting that i trust Pepe more than the press. And a denial would have made it worse for me.
I dunno if he said that shit, or even what context he said it in, and im not arsed. The fact is promises were made that were broken as Stevie and other players have mentioned.
The americans (by the end of their reign) had presided over a fucking shambles where the likes of Alonso and Mascherano were being sold and Voronin and Poulsen being brought in. We went from being top 4 challenging to bottom 4 with Roy in charge and at that time the future of the club in doubt. This after being told investment was coming (as we all were) by Tom and George. He had every right (as one of only three world class players left in thw squad) to say he was pissed off and/or never say never to leaving and getting the fuck out of dodge and going any-fucking-where. He wasnt employed by the fans he was employed by the club who had LIED to him to get him to sign a new deal. Maybe he said those things IN context, if he did then it was ill advised but IF Tom and George had stayed and we had continued on the downward trend we were on, then ill be honest i would forgive world class players getting the hump and fucking off.
The reason im pissed off with Torres is that he saw the bright new dawn but used the past regime as an excuse to leave like a chief. Thats precisely why im willing to give Pepe the benefit of the doubt, hes seen things change and said fair enough, promises were broken but thats in the past and i like where we are going and want to fight to get us there (in the process miss two years o champions league football) then i say fair enough. We all said some things we shouldnt have but i for one will love Pepe pulling on our shirt next year, and will only remove this love i have for him if he does a Torres.
Hopefully his concerns are being addressed and he can see out his career here winning medals.
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Well said. My sentiments exactly.
