Post Match EPL Fulham (A) 2-2 Sunday 4th January 15:15

[Best Believe It]

Is anyone else completely sick of the whole xG thing?

 

[Hansern]

I'm about 0,50 xG sick of it.

 

[Markeh]

what i’m getting right now is that fulham probably should have won that match 2-1 with a last minute worldie.

slot should thank his luck for the draw

 

[Hansern]

We could check the match stats but that's frowned upon. In all seriousness I think a draw was fair. Fulham the better side in the first half and we improved in the second. Pretty poor regardless.

 

[Irishanfield]

Having issue with our style of football is fine. A lot of what gets posted here lately is fucking shite and I had come to expect more from a bunch of middle aged men. This place is like reddit at times. It’s very bizarre.

Im 55 bud, I've only ever wanted 2 managers sacked before slot, Rodgers and the fucking face slapping owl who I never wanted getting the job in the first place.. Didn't call for Souness, Evans, Rafa or other previous managers heads despite the fact that their times were up because at least we could actually play some sort of attacking football. What we are seeing now is some of the worst attacking displays I'm my memory and
They were worse squads that what we have now
I would have excepted transitional year if the football was better but this is a non description Al football that has gotten worse when after 6 months it should have somewhat improved. It's 100% on the manager

 

[tomasjj]

It's shorthand for 'it's not my fault'

Sure.
I also thought it meant he stuck to his philosophy even if he didn’t have the played for it, which goes against the key rules of management.

 

[tomasjj]

We allow teams to still be in games though going into the last few minutes. We give them hope and we don't create chances to put them away. Every now and then, a set piece or a worldie is going to go in. We bring it on ourselves.

Compare that with under Rafa, defending a one goal lead.
The banks of four would be solid, aggressive and so drilled that the opponents wouldn’t get a sniff even if it was juve away.
It is possible with coaching and organisation

 

[tombrown]

Im 55 bud, I've only ever wanted 2 managers sacked before slot, Rodgers and the fucking face slapping owl who I never wanted getting the job in the first place.. Didn't call for Souness, Evans, Rafa or other previous managers heads despite the fact that their times were up because at least we could actually play some sort of attacking football. What we are seeing now is some of the worst attacking displays I'm my memory and
They were worse squads that what we have now
I would have excepted transitional year if the football was better but this is a non description Al football that has gotten worse when after 6 months it should have somewhat improved. It's 100% on the manager

I'm 60 and Woy is the only manager I ever wanted sacked. Slot In

Does that make me better than you?

 

[LeTallecWiz]

I'm 60 and Woy is the only manager I ever wanted sacked. Slot In

Does that make me better than you?

We have another grandfather on the site?

How many of you are there? 🙂

 

[Irishanfield]

I'm 60 and Woy is the only manager I ever wanted sacked. Slot In

Does that make me better than you?

Lol alot to unpack here...

The point I was actual trying to make was I've seen alot of good managers and some not so good but when you can see some positive things to their football I was always willing to support them or towards the end I wasn't going to call for the sack unless things just looked that bad that there isn't anything positive at all and that's where I feel we are with slot.
He has a style of play that just doesn't work in the prem lge once it got found out and he hasn't a clue how to fix it

And if it makes you feel better then ya you can be a better fan than me

 

[Momo]

We have another grandfather on the site?

How many of you are there? 🙂

To be fair, they were in their 40s when we all first formed together.

 

[Frogfish]

And since the call on the pitch was offside, being within the margin of tolerance should have seen it waved off.

When it comes to offsides the pitch call is irrelevant. VAR make the call.

 

[Frogfish]

According to the BBC, the original rule (pre semi automated) was:

So from the start of the 2021-22 season all leagues added a tolerance level, or benefit of the doubt, of about 5cm to the old offside technology. It meant that if the two lines touched, the player would be given onside regardless of the on-field decision.

When they introduced SAOT the FA decided to stay with the same tolerance & interpretation.

Why did Florian Wirtz's 'offside' equaliser for Liverpool at Fulham stand?

Florian Wirtz thought his goal for Liverpool in the 2-2 draw at Fulham was offside - so how did technology allow it to stand?

www.bbc.com

EDIT: And then @Hansern posted the same article as I was typing that ...

With both of you quiffing me from 8 hours earlier !

 

[Sammy LFC]

Bad result, we have dropped 4 points over the past two home games, we might lose another 3 points on Thursday? LFC is going nowhere under this idiot Slot! God Help Us. Urgent changes are needed.

 

[tombrown]

With both of you quiffing me from 8 hours earlier !

I believe there is a 7.5 hour timeout for quiffs

 

[darkstarexodus]

From Dale Johnson's VAR review.

Wirtz looked offside. And he was - just. So why was his goal allowed to stand after a VAR review?

In the first two seasons of VAR there were some very confusing offside decisions. The lines drawn to the defender and the attacker would be on top of each other.

There were many complaints that this was against the spirit of the offside law.

So from the start of the 2021-22 season all leagues added a tolerance level, or benefit of the doubt, of about 5cm to the old offside technology. It meant that if the two lines touched, the player would be given onside regardless of the on-field decision.

This was because of inaccuracies in the technology, like the correct moment the ball has been passed.

In effect a player could now be marginally offside on the technology, but onside when the tolerance level was applied.

At the time, referees' body Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) estimated it could lead to an additional 20 goals a season.

The advent of semi-automated offside technology (SAOT) changed all that. Other leagues, including the top flights in Germany, Spain and Italy, have gone back to offside by the millimetre.

But when the Premier League introduced SAOT it wanted to continue with the tolerance level, to give some leeway to the attacker. That is because there are still questions about treating this new technology as flawless.

It is also why you will get situations like Wirtz, who appears to be just offside, but SAOT will give him the benefit of the doubt.

Fair enough. Still think it's kinda stupid. But it seems to be correct, so here we are.

 

[LarryHagman]

So this tolerance that was implemented in 2022 that means you can be offside and yet onside at the same time, how come I've not heard of it before now? Has it lead to the 20 extra goals a season they forecast? New one on me.
I think they've ballsed this, they made a meal of it during the game.

 

[darkstarexodus]

So this tolerance that was implemented in 2022 that means you can be offside and yet onside at the same time, how come I've not heard of it before now? Has it lead to the 20 extra goals a season they forecast? New one on me.
I think they've ballsed this, they made a meal of it during the game.

Schrodinger's offside.