Gary Cahill targeted

[keniget]

It's easy for us to say the season is a write-off but I'm sure Roy doesn't feel he has the luxury of adopting some long-term approach and the likes of Torres, Reina and Gerrard aren't going to be happy with it either.

I'd quite like to see the likes of Wilson and Kelly get a chance, but we definitely do need a new CB at some point. If there is an opportunity to get a good one who is available in Jan, maybe we should take it. Perhaps the right sort of attacking player won't be available in Jan.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Bristow link=topic=43018.msg1227139#msg1227139 date=1291207611]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=43018.msg1227134#msg1227134 date=1291207470]
[quote author=Bristow link=topic=43018.msg1227132#msg1227132 date=1291207135]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=43018.msg1227131#msg1227131 date=1291206953]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=43018.msg1227101#msg1227101 date=1291202781]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=43018.msg1227096#msg1227096 date=1291202438]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=43018.msg1227089#msg1227089 date=1291202001]
Cahill is excellent. Can play football, too. Anything around the £10m mark would represent decent value.

I still worry about the aerial threat though. I want our next defender to be a beast in the air, because none of our current lot are (the Greek aside).
[/quote]You been reading the same 'tabloids' as me?
[/quote]

It would appear so. They must've infiltrated my brain and overpowered my better judgment because KHL reckons that Skrtel and (surprise surprise!) Agger are better.

Damn those evil tabloids with their corrupting messages. I must learn to think for myself.
[/quote]
Anyone stating that Cahill is the better defender is obviously biased towards English players.

He's played 36 games for Bolton so far scoring two in the making. Is about same age as Agger and Skrtel and has also played for Sheffield United, Burnely and Villa, the latter only at a young age before beeing loaned out.

Look I'm not saying he's not a good defender but sometimes views on here just baffles me. Seriously am I the only who think a statement made about Cahill and Dann beeing better defenders than Skrtel or Agger is well odd?
[/quote]

haha, and you aren't at all biased towards Danish players?


I don't even agree that we should be looking at Cahill whilst we have two young centre backs on the fringe of the first team and Skrtel & Greek to also play a part.

Any money we have available on transfers should be put towards a striker or a left winger.
[/quote]
I'm not saying I'm not am I? I'd like to think 'biased' however has got much to with me seeing a lot of players from my region hence I know whether they are good enough (in my opnion). I'm first and foremost judging every player on their skills rather than nationality or anything else not football-related. I've got a few personal favourite players but haven't we all?

Anwyays I am beeing told on daily basis on here that I'm biased however so I should believe I've got every right to claim the exact same when I see statements like the above beeing made. Don't you?
[/quote]

On the other hand, you seem to be getting fed up that your opinions of Danish players are ignored because of your apparant bias, but then when a few posters on here who have followed Cahill throughout his career praise him and say they would like to sign up you immediately claim that it is a national bias. Slightly hypocritical?
[/quote]
Wasn't aware they were beeing ignored rather the opposite actually.

Anyways when people has seen player X play umpteenth times and he's from England they are right but when I've done the same with player Y from say Denmark I'm biased? How's that not hypocritical by your own standards?

Oh my fcuking god this place is doing my head in at times....

NB I've seen Cahill play anough times to know he's a good defender too. Can't say the same with regards to Dann but to say they are both better than what we've got bar Carra seems rather sensationalized.

 

[Akakabooto]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=43018.msg1227146#msg1227146 date=1291207930]
It's easy for us to say the season is a write-off but I'm sure Roy doesn't feel he has the luxury of adopting some long-term approach and the likes of Torres, Reina and Gerrard aren't going to be happy with it either.

I'd quite like to see the likes of Wilson and Kelly get a chance, but we definitely do need a new CB at some point. If there is an opportunity to get a good one who is available in Jan, maybe we should take it. Perhaps the right sort of attacking player won't be available in Jan.
[/quote]

Good post keni. There was talk about Mertesacker demanding a move and possibly going on a relatively cheap price. If it's true we should at least try to get him as we might not get another chance.

And I repeat, stability in our defense and confidence towards it would reflect on other parts of the team improving us more than one might first think.

 

[Asbo]

Martin Kelly is 21 he isn't a 'future prospect' he is here now, and in the Squad.

He is also a better RB than Carra for fucks sake, and a better LB than Agger!

Someone recently posted he was about to sign a new 3 year extention (he has 6 months left on his contract), if he sees another player coming in next month and pushing him down the pecking order, what message to THAT tell him?

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43018.msg1227138#msg1227138 date=1291207595]

Anwyays I am beeing told on daily basis on here that I'm biased however so I should believe I've got every right to claim the exact same when I see statements like the above beeing made. Don't you?

You accused me of that recently, and it all got a bit embarrassing for you. Let's not do it again.
[/quote]
Not anymore embarrassing than you banging on for years that we should buy Lee Cattermole is it?

 

[manwithnoname]

Not anymore embarrassing than you banging on for years that we should buy Lee Cattermole is it?

Yeah. Yeah it is.

Because if we did a poll asking everyone to associate one dreadful, pitiful, embarrassing thing with a poster, yours would be:
"Hilarious, laughable Danish bias".

And mine wouldn't be Lee Cattermole.

You don't help yourself. In fact, I would suggest you do more to make 6CM hate Daniel Agger than his big gob, injury record or general over-ratedness ever could.

See also: Laudrup. Nicky Bender. Anyone Danish linked with us ever.

So all in all, I think you've failed.

Not just yourself, or this website. But the entire Danish nation. So much so, one almost wonders if you aren't actually an undercover Swedish agent.

 

[manwithnoname]

PS KHL

It's at this point that I'd suggest you laugh, take your licks, and give up.

Because otherwise it's just going to get much worse.

 

[the_khl]

I did laugh actually.

This post is about whether Lt. Dann or Cahill is BETTER defenders however than Skrtel or Daniel Agger. I take it your agreeing with Oncy then - which is fair - otherwise your just beeing a twat.

Personally I thought it was sensationalized bollocks and I then aired my views. What happens then?

The usual 6CM bandwagon jumps at every fcuking chance you get. Bunnyman with his stupid neverending not-funny comments and so on. You guys are making this place so extremely boring with your constant negativism and sly digs, much more so than my views on Scandinavian-based or Danish players.

If I'm not agreeing when Squiggles believes O'shea is better than Agger then I'm biased. If I reckon Laudrup would be a better shout than Roy Hodgson or Frank Rijkaard I'm biased. If i believe Kvist would be a better shout than Annan I'm biased. It's laughable because I'm right and you are not.

This site is doing my head in and I'll do myself the favour to keep it low on here for a while, as I'm constantly finding myself beeing extremely bored by all these bitchy never-ending comments.

Still laughing btw.

 

[kingjulian]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43018.msg1227230#msg1227230 date=1291214811]
In fact, I would suggest you do more to make 6CM hate Daniel Agger than his big gob, injury record or general over-ratedness ever could.
[/quote]

TO be fair KHL...i think that is true

I actually think Bendtner is a better player than most of this forum is willing to give Credit, but your inflated opinion of Bendtner drives me up the wall....

 

[kingjulian]

More to the point, if we spunk 15 million on Cahill, i'll give up on football....it's far too painful.

We have 6 central defenders (7 if we include Ayala)on our book. It is the one position where we can actually sell first to bring in a replacement. A 3 month injury to our best defender doesn't change that.

We hang on till summer, we sell a defender in the summer and bring in a better one whose name is not Cahill, and also give the new manager a chance to bring in his player for this key position....simples

 

[TheBunnyman]

[quote author=KHL link=topic=43018.msg1227241#msg1227241 date=1291216468]

You guys are making this place so extremely boring with your constant negativism and sly digs, much more so than my views on Scandinavian-based or Danish players.

[/quote]

Maybe we could do a poll on this, because I'm really not sure that's the general view.

 

[Avmenon]

Kris,the problem isn't that you're being assailed by 'never-ending bitchy comments'; the problem is that you think you're right all the time.

ALL OF THE TIME.

And that anyone who doesnt agree with you has some 'agenda' against you.

Take Squiggle's comment that you've mentioned.

He didnt say that O'Shea was a better defender than Agger.

He said O'Shea was better value for money; and considering Agger's played less League games than HARRY FUCKING KEWELL, he obviously has a point.

As for Cahill and Dann; they're not 'better' than Agger; but if you reference 'better' as being..oh, I don't know....'not always broken', then Oncy has a point too.

Take your issue now with Lee Cattermole; do you really think Brendan liked Cattermole ONLY because he's English?

You've been here for years; you KNOW what names Bren's come up with for players he didn't like, English or otherwise.

Everyone here likes you, Kris...so don't take yourself so seriously.

More importantly, bear in mind that other people ARE also sometimes right; then I think you'd see a lot less of what you call 'sly digs'.

I was wondering whether I should post anything, because I didn't want to be accused of something again...but you're in danger of painting yourself as a victim and then deciding you've been 'hounded' off...which I think would be a loss to this place.

 

[Hansern]

Isn't Scott Dann a massive red and a scouser aswell? I'd chose him over Cahill and Rami just for that to be honest.

Has impressed me greatly with his defending and is excellent in the air. Bar Carra as Brendan said he would be our best defender if bought. Agger and Skrtel aren't good enough in the air and one of them needs to be moved on.

Cahill is good, but 17 mill? Fuck off. He'll end up in Chelsea or something. Rami? Not convinced.
Buy a Premiership proven scouser. End off. Dann is only 23 aswell.

Edit: just read that Dann is a former season ticket holder at Anfield.

 

[Squiggles]

[quote author=KHL link=topic=43018.msg1227241#msg1227241 date=1291216468]

If I'm not agreeing when Squiggles believes O'shea is better than Agger then I'm biased. I


[/quote]

You're an idiot.

I pointed out that his £80,000 a week contract was arguably better value for United than the contract we have with Agger.

 

[Hansern]

You won't like this KHL;

Despite a nagging fear of having the word 'agenda' thrown at me, been told by an impeccable source the club are looking to sell Daniel Agger

Andy Heaton

And;

Itasportpress is reporting that Liverpool centre back Daniel Agger is the focus of interest from three leading European clubs. According to the report, Juventus, Rafa Benitez’s Inter Milan and Steve McClaren’s Wolfsburg have all contacted the Reds about the price that the Merseyside club would be looking for if they were to let the Dane leave in the January transfer window.

 

[peterhague]

[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=43018.msg1227294#msg1227294 date=1291224078]


Kris,the problem isn't that you're being assailed by 'never-ending bitchy comments'; the problem is that you think you're right all the time.

ALL OF THE TIME.

And that anyone who doesnt agree with you has some 'agenda' against you.

Take Squiggle's comment that you've mentioned.

He didnt say that O'Shea was a better defender than Agger.

He said O'Shea was better value for money; and considering Agger's played less League games than HARRY FUCKING KEWELL, he obviously has a point.

As for Cahill and Dann; they're not 'better' than Agger; but if you reference 'better' as being..oh, I don't know....'not always broken', then Oncy has a point too.

Take your issue now with Lee Cattermole; do you really think Brendan liked Cattermole ONLY because he's English?

You've been here for years; you KNOW what names Bren's come up with for players he didn't like, English or otherwise.

Everyone here likes you, Kris...so don't take yourself so seriously.

More importantly, bear in mind that other people ARE also sometimes right; then I think you'd see a lot less of what you call 'sly digs'.

I was wondering whether I should post anything, because I didn't want to be accused of something again...but you're in danger of painting yourself as a victim and then deciding you've been 'hounded' off...which I think would be a loss to this place.


[/quote]

haha, KHL does have an uncanny ability to make normally reasonable posters break out the block capitals.

he's extremely stubborn, and seemingly unaware that no-one on here bears him any ill will, it's just they find his extreme bias a bit, well, breathtaking.

 

[Oncy]

Its not his fault our Danes keep turning out to be fucking useless.
Bless im.

 

[mark1975]

I hope no one blames Hodgson for selling Agger because in the interests of the club at least, he's not representing value for money, he's costing us a 1/3 of a £million every month, which in the current financial climate is plain stupid. Yeah he might go on and have an injury-free run, but it's not looking likely based on his injury record overall for us.

 

[Oncy]

Na. Fuck him mate.

 

[Hansern]

When I saw he had played less games then Harry Kewell over his 5 years spell here enough was enough...

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43018.msg1227372#msg1227372 date=1291230078]
When I saw he had played less games then Harry Kewell over his 5 years spell here enough was enough...
[/quote]

Yep, though I hated Kewell because he was spineless, Agger clearly does give a fuck when he pulls on the shirt.

 

[Hansern]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=43018.msg1227389#msg1227389 date=1291233318]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43018.msg1227372#msg1227372 date=1291230078]
When I saw he had played less games then Harry Kewell over his 5 years spell here enough was enough...
[/quote]

Yep, though I hated Kewell because he was spineless, Agger clearly does give a fuck when he pulls on the shirt.
[/quote]

Agreed mate, but if we looked at what he has cost us per minute on the pitch it would be a horrific result.
He does care though, but I also think he doesn't get along with Roy.

 

[reuque]

That Pault86 lad on Twitter saying we've come with an improved offer for Cahill.

 

[Modo]

[quote author=reuque link=topic=43018.msg1347906#msg1347906 date=1307896405]
That Pault86 lad on Twitter saying we've come with an improved offer for Cahill.
[/quote]


YES!!! GET IN!!!

 

[OLD_Lewy]

if we get into a bidding war there is only going to be one winner, n it aint us

 

[Peatcheo]

[quote author=Modo link=topic=43018.msg1347910#msg1347910 date=1307897109]
[quote author=reuque link=topic=43018.msg1347906#msg1347906 date=1307896405]
That Pault86 lad on Twitter saying we've come with an improved offer for Cahill.
[/quote]


YES!!! GET IN!!!


[/quote]

PaulT says a lot of things...

 

[Modo]

[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=43018.msg1347916#msg1347916 date=1307897742]
[quote author=Modo link=topic=43018.msg1347910#msg1347910 date=1307897109]
[quote author=reuque link=topic=43018.msg1347906#msg1347906 date=1307896405]
That Pault86 lad on Twitter saying we've come with an improved offer for Cahill.
[/quote]


YES!!! GET IN!!!


[/quote]

PaulT says a lot of things...
[/quote]

boooooo...

 

[Judge Jules]

[quote author=Lewy link=topic=43018.msg1347912#msg1347912 date=1307897515]
if we get into a bidding war there is only going to be one winner, n it aint us
[/quote]

You reckon? Have another look at the Phil Jones saga. Maybe things aren't quite that simple any more.

 

[PaulGorst]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43018.msg1227335#msg1227335 date=1291225998]
Isn't Scott Dann a massive red and a scouser aswell? I'd chose him over Cahill and Rami just for that to be honest.
Has impressed me greatly with his defending and is excellent in the air. Bar Carra as Brendan said he would be our best defender if bought. Agger and Skrtel aren't good enough in the air and one of them needs to be moved on.

Cahill is good, but 17 mill? Fuck off. He'll end up in Chelsea or something. Rami? Not convinced.
Buy a Premiership proven scouser. End off. Dann is only 23 aswell.

Edit: just read that Dann is a former season ticket holder at Anfield.
[/quote]

I'm a massive Red and a Scouser but I don't expect to lining up alongside Carra in August. Being a boyhood fan shouldn't be a pre-requisite. Quality first and foremost, god knows we've had many boyhood fans who've tuned out to be wrong for us. In all honesty though, I don't really know who I want for our defence. I don't really notice defenders, nless they're really top drawer like Nemanja Vidic (as much as it pains me to say that, but he is.)

 

[mark1975]

Arsenal are after Dann now aswell appaz.