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Gary Speed - RIP

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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]


Errr... I think it's obvious that oncey was trying to move on there DB.
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=47683.msg1433605#msg1433605 date=1322443918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]


Errr... I think it's obvious that oncey was trying to move on there DB.
[/quote]

What he talks about wanking as a possible part of death and then finishes his post with 'Lets get back the topic at hand?'

Hidden message much?
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=47683.msg1433605#msg1433605 date=1322443918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]


Errr... I think it's obvious that oncey was trying to move on there DB.
[/quote]

What he talks about wanking as a possible part of death and then finishes his post with 'Lets get back the topic at hand?'

Hidden message much?
[/quote]

LOL

Fuck me. If that was intentional you are a comic genius.
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=47683.msg1433605#msg1433605 date=1322443918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]


Errr... I think it's obvious that oncey was trying to move on there DB.
[/quote]

What he talks about wanking as a possible part of death and then finishes his post with 'Lets get back the topic at hand?'

Hidden message much?
[/quote]

LOL

Fuck me. If that was intentional you are a comic genius.
[/quote]

Fair enough and I hope you are right as I think these are threads that humour should be left out of.
 
A lot of people don't know Oncy as well as they should, despite being on here for a hell of a long time.

I actually think it might be better if that was the reason he died; i'd much rather know he died out of some sort of weird misadventure like David Carradine rather than deliberately taking his own life out of feeling that he had nothing to live for.
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]I didnt mean what you think I meant. So with that in mind please go and fuck yourself.
I simply was trying to change the subject back from some stupid side argument back to a human being who died.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433619#msg1433619 date=1322451736]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=47683.msg1433605#msg1433605 date=1322443918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]I didnt mean what you think I meant. So with that in mind please go and fuck yourself.
I simply was trying to change the subject back from some stupid side argument back to a human being who died.
[/quote]

Real classy comment that Andy, my view was hardly a wild leap from your original comment no the matter.

If your worried about people misinterupting your joking posts in a thread like this maybe you should just leave them out of ya?
 
The only person making that leap was you,Pat.

I didnt,i think i know Andy better than that.

You should too,mate.

Hopefully the truth is known soon (about why Speed died)
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]


Errr... I think it's obvious that oncey was trying to move on there DB.
[/quote]

What he talks about wanking as a possible part of death and then finishes his post with 'Lets get back the topic at hand?'

Hidden message much?
[/quote]

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Dreamy.
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=47683.msg1433609#msg1433609 date=1322448428]
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=47683.msg1433605#msg1433605 date=1322443918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]


Errr... I think it's obvious that oncey was trying to move on there DB.
[/quote]

What he talks about wanking as a possible part of death and then finishes his post with 'Lets get back the topic at hand?'

Hidden message much?
[/quote]

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Dreamy.
[/quote]

pat's a comic genius!!

and everyone stop taking pot shots at oncy. the man's a gent. yes perhaps this isn't the thread for jokes, but Andy meant no malice
 
On the issue of how he could have done such a selfish thing to his wife and kids, I am reliably informed that people who are serious about taking their own lives have their minds go totally blank and that's how they become capable of doing it.
 
Selfish?

You're not thinking that far ahead; you just want to stop feeling like shit and don't know how.

If you can hang on and see (or hope) that things ahead might be better, maybe that's the first step to getting better. Maybe.
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]


Errr... I think it's obvious that oncey was trying to move on there DB.
[/quote]

What he talks about wanking as a possible part of death and then finishes his post with 'Lets get back the topic at hand?'

Hidden message much?
[/quote]

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Dreamy.
[/quote]


and everyone stop taking pot shots at oncy. the man's a gent. yes perhaps this isn't the thread for jokes, but Andy meant no malice
[/quote]

^^^
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=47683.msg1433605#msg1433605 date=1322443918]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=47683.msg1433553#msg1433553 date=1322434948]
Well there you go. Some people did. Some people didnt.
Its almost like different people find different things funny.

So Back to the subject at hand?
[/quote]

Talk about digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Just let it go Andy.

This of all threads should not have jokes in it
[/quote]I didnt mean what you think I meant. So with that in mind please go and fuck yourself.
I simply was trying to change the subject back from some stupid side argument back to a human being who died.
[/quote]

Real classy comment that Andy, my view was hardly a wild leap from your original comment no the matter.

If your worried about people misinterupting your joking posts in a thread like this maybe you should just leave them out of ya?
[/quote]I didnt make any jokes. Youre fucking out of order man.
Ive done fuck all. Your fucking mind interpreted something I said to mean something different. WHICH I DIDNT SAY OR MEAN.
I suggest you read all my posts before jumping on some fucking moral bandwagon. Alright?
 
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=47683.msg1433665#msg1433665 date=1322466510]
Selfish?

You're not thinking that far ahead.
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Exactly.
 
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[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=47683.msg1433454#msg1433454 date=1322427375]
Oh.
[/quote]Obviously its not often discussed, and a lot of people who are 'into' this keep it to themselves as they think their partners would be appalled. The problem is you are hanging yourself to the point of asphyxiation and from time to time you pass out, and when you pass out you die because you are hung. Its fucking horrible to think.
But then maybe better than he was suffering badly.
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Aye. Michael Hutchence springs to mind.

No one would ever find out I'd imagine, if that we're the case. Either way it's puzzling and ultimately tragic. What a waste of a good life and by all accounts, a good bloke.

I think people just find it all the more unbelievable because he was on TV the day before talking about a future and with a smile. Then again, alot of people in that state of mind hide it well.
 
[quote author=Dylan link=topic=47683.msg1433662#msg1433662 date=1322465790]
On the issue of how he could have done such a selfish thing to his wife and kids, I am reliably informed that people who are serious about taking their own lives have their minds go totally blank and that's how they become capable of doing it.
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In my experience its often the case that those taking their own life genuinely believe the world (and significant others) will be better off without them.

Alternatively, a few appear to act out an infantile aggressive act (the ultimate) against those thry feel persecuted or hurt by.
 
The reason I assume it's a dangerwank gone bad is because of how rational he was behaving leading up to it and how he could never have wished for his kids to have found him. I'm not certain or anything but I guessed it immediately. It just makes more sense.
 
[quote author=Woland link=topic=47683.msg1433688#msg1433688 date=1322471456]
The reason I assume it's a dangerwank gone bad is because of how rational he was behaving leading up to it and how he could never have wished for his kids to have found him. I'm not certain or anything but I guessed it immediately. It just makes more sense.
[/quote]My exact thoughts, but as has been suggested, I have no idea what rational thought looks like to someone who has decided to end it all.
 
I was being quite serious by the way, I was very moved yesterday morning when I heard he'd died but when Oncy put that image in my head of him dying while masturbating I found it a lot harder to feel sad. It's a lot easier to feel sorry for someone who killed himself because of depression than someone who died wanking. Sorry if people find that hard to accept.
 
Wouldn't it be better to wait for results from the inquest rather than speculate? Let's honor the words R.I.P.
 
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=47683.msg1433802#msg1433802 date=1322485198]
Very unhappy with the way this thread has turned..




In fact.. I'm disgusted...


I will not be back. Ever.
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Sorry you feel that way. For the record some of the comments in this thread are somewhat an embarrassment to this site in my opinion, whether they were misunderstood, misrepresented or not. I'm not a fan of making jokes about the recently deceased in general nor do I like to speculate on possible causes but that's just my opinion. My thoughts are with his family and friends though.
 
I find myself very bothered by his death; and I find myself wanting to know why he did it.

He had so much going for him. :'(
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=47683.msg1433804#msg1433804 date=1322485658]
Wouldn't it be better to wait for results from the inquest rather than speculate? Let's honor the words R.I.P.
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Exactly this.
 
Some real drama queens on here.

As if Oncey was getting shit for a nothing comment.

Disgusted indeed. Get over yourself.
 
[quote author=Avvy link=topic=47683.msg1433821#msg1433821 date=1322486666]
I find myself very bothered by his death; and I find myself wanting to know why he did it.

He had so much going for him. :'(
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Yep me too. But you will never know so there is no point analysing it and trying to draw parallels imo. That could lead down a very dark path.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=47683.msg1433874#msg1433874 date=1322490489]
Some real drama queens on here.

As if Oncey was getting shit for a nothing comment.

Disgusted indeed. Get over yourself.
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I'm not having a pop at anyone, I'm just not a fan of having a laugh at the recently deceased and it makes me uncomfortable. I fucking despised Jade Goody but didn't feel it was right when she'd just died. It's my empathetic nature that's all.
 
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