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Liverpool related transfer speculation

I don't get the logic? He plays with a team that has a limited chance of winning top level trophies. He's at the peak of his career
*If* he (and he not the club) decides not to move on, when a club that has a better time of winning trophies moves for him.

Then it's surely a lack of ambition to win things.
The RS move to Newcastle was a big step up. He wasn't an elite player at that time. Now he is he is stuck in a contract - what would you have him do?!
 
Sure it was. But now he's at the peak of his career, and a top club came in for him. If he's the reason for declining (not the club) it would indicate a lack of ambition to win trophies. It could also of course show a very loyal character.
 
I don't get the logic? He plays with a team that has a limited chance of winning top level trophies. He's at the peak of his career
*If* he (and he not the club) decides not to move on, when a club that has a better time of winning trophies moves for him.

Then it's surely a lack of ambition to win things.

I agree. Maybe signing such a long contract at Newcastle, with no release clause, you could put down to an error of judgement.

But just letting the best years of your career slip by at an also ran club without doing much to stop it? Definitely seems a bit passive to me. We're talking about one of the best strikers in the world and he's barely ever even played in the CL.
 
All the indications are that it is Newcastle who are refusing to sell him and that, if they were willing, he would jump at the chance of playing for Liverpool.

If so, then the only way he can "show more ambition" is by acting the maggot & downing tools - then he may demonstrate himself to be ambitious, but also he may fail the no dickheads test.
 
I'm hearing on podcasts and on here that as Liverpool were so frugal in recent years we can afford to spend a shitload this year - and it seems we are.

But, if PSR is calculated over 3 years, does it mean we have to be frugal again for the next 2 years?
 
I'm hearing on podcasts and on here that as Liverpool were so frugal in recent years we can afford to spend a shitload this year - and it seems we are.

But, if PSR is calculated over 3 years, does it mean we have to be frugal again for the next 2 years?
Semantics, but PSR (Premier League rules) is really not a concern. We'll be nowhere near the PL £105m limit. It's UEFA's FFP / FCR rules we need to manage.
There is an element of this being a one-off summer. But part of the reason we were so frugal recently was to pay for the Annie Road which is obviously now completed. Not only is it no longer a drain on cash resources, but it's also generating more income for us. So whilst we probably can't spend like mad in the next few years, we won't need to be as frugal as in the last couple of years as our revenue base will be higher, giving us more cash to spend. More on-field success and commercial growth will also help.
Finally, how much we realise on sales this summer will also massively affect future windows (both in terms of profit for FFP, and in terms of how much it takes out of our wage bill). The fee for Quansah will have been almost total profit, but the wage saving comparatively small. It'll be the same for Harvey, but selling Diaz and Nunez will take a good chunk out of our annual wage and amortisation bills, with the former likely generating a nice profit too.
There are lots of moving pieces and which players leave will have more impact on FFP than the ones who arrive, but I know the club will be all over that and will understand how each move affects things.
I also expect they'll have plans for 2 years from now when we probably say goodbye to Mo and Virgil, because it'll cost a fortune to replace those two with similar quality. There'll be a long-term plan to replace those two.
 
All the indications are that it is Newcastle who are refusing to sell him and that, if they were willing, he would jump at the chance of playing for Liverpool.

If so, then the only way he can "show more ambition" is by acting the maggot & downing tools - then he may demonstrate himself to be ambitious, but also he may fail the no dickheads test.

Generally players find ways to get moves without going the whole hog of going on strike. I'm not saying he's wrong, but I think a really ambitious player would've got a move this summer one way or another.
 
Generally players find ways to get moves without going the whole hog of going on strike. I'm not saying he's wrong, but I think a really ambitious player would've got a move this summer one way or another.
We've had players before (recently even) where we've just said - sod off, you're not moving. I imagine Newcastle are in that boat. Money certainly not an issue for them whilst gaining a Top 5 slot, for CL, an imperative. They've been very firm in that they aren't selling him at any price.
 
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