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The summer spend has been like when you do the big Asda/Tesco shop.
Picked up everything we need (hoping we still pick up Guehi and Barcola)

Sets us up not just for this season but potentially the one after also.

We might nip into the express on the way home from work if we need the basics or maybe fancy something a bit extra but we're basically done.

We better hope they all settle in and gel cos this is it.

Generational window
 
Whats everyone's thoughts on why we didnt persist in going in for Sesko as opposed to chasing Isak for 150 odd mill? Do we think Klopp warned us off him maybe?
 
Perfect end to the window:

1) Isak
2) Guehi
3) Cheap LW 21-23 year old (a beast in offensive transition and 1v1s). Mane-lite. Lookman or Sulemanna might have been a good option. If it doesn't work out in 3-5 years, we sell on for same price, by which time Rio N is ready to take over. If it does work out, then Gakpo will probably have left or sold on.
4) Hot shit DM prospect. The next Caicedo/Baleba before Brighton sign them.
 
i would’ve argued against #3 two weeks ago but it seems like slot is adamant about not really playing rio yet

question: salah goes to afcon and bradley is injured who plays right side?
 
Perfect end to the window:

1) Isak
2) Guehi
3) Cheap LW 21-23 year old (a beast in offensive transition and 1v1s). Mane-lite. Lookman or Sulemanna might have been a good option. If it doesn't work out in 3-5 years, we sell on for same price, by which time Rio N is ready to take over. If it does work out, then Gakpo will probably have left or sold on.
4) Hot shit DM prospect. The next Caicedo/Baleba before Brighton sign them.

We'd be one off a entire new XI if that happens.

I think (3) is a must unless Slot is committed to giving Rio game time.

The DM situation is ringing alarm bells for me. I'm not sure if getting a prospect pre-Brighton move is right due to the fact that they typically need that season or two to play consistently but I'd take it over nothing.

Next summer we need to rebalance the midfield group.
 
Perfect end to the window:

1) Isak
2) Guehi
3) Cheap LW 21-23 year old (a beast in offensive transition and 1v1s). Mane-lite. Lookman or Sulemanna might have been a good option. If it doesn't work out in 3-5 years, we sell on for same price, by which time Rio N is ready to take over. If it does work out, then Gakpo will probably have left or sold on.
4) Hot shit DM prospect. The next Caicedo/Baleba before Brighton sign them.
Do we need a LW? Isak, Guehi and Hayden, unless they want to use Guehi as a CDM
 
We'd be one off a entire new XI if that happens.

I think (3) is a must unless Slot is committed to giving Rio game time.

The DM situation is ringing alarm bells for me. I'm not sure if getting a prospect pre-Brighton move is right due to the fact that they typically need that season or two to play consistently but I'd take it over nothing.

Next summer we need to rebalance the midfield group.
Guehi would be 3rd choice.
Isak would replace Ekitike.
The LW is like going to be 2nd choice, with the ability to rotate with Cody. I tell you who would be a good option to look at. Ignoring age profile, but if we want an immediate fix. Semenyo. Not because of yesterday, but on the evidence of the last 2 seasons. He's capable of playing well on both sides and it 2 footed too.

The DM, I agree, we probably need someone more refined, although Baleba/Caicedo did hit the ground running when they came to the PL.
 
Guehi would be 3rd choice.
Isak would replace Ekitike.
The LW is like going to be 2nd choice, with the ability to rotate with Cody. I tell you who would be a good option to look at. Ignoring age profile, but if we want an immediate fix. Semenyo. Not because of yesterday, but on the evidence of the last 2 seasons. He's capable of playing well on both sides and it 2 footed too.

The DM, I agree, we probably need someone more refined, although Baleba/Caicedo did hit the ground running when they came to the PL.

I've been saying we should sign Semenyo for ages. I don't understand why nobody went for him. He seemed like such a Liverpool signing too, mid 20s, good but not quite great yet but obviously with untapped potential.

He seemed like the best candidate for another Mane or Salah.
 
I've been saying we should sign Semenyo for ages. I don't understand why nobody went for him. He seemed like such a Liverpool signing too, mid 20s, good but not quite great yet but obviously with untapped potential.

He seemed like the best candidate for another Mane or Salah.

Hes always been too inconsistent for the fee they'd want, and I feel he's a bit too 1 dimensional. He's ideal for when we're against open teams and we can hit with pace, but against a low block I can't see him being useful consistently enough.

He shines for Bournemouth because teams generally don't sit back against them
 
Hes always been too inconsistent for the fee they'd want, and I feel he's a bit too 1 dimensional. He's ideal for when we're against open teams and we can hit with pace, but against a low block I can't see him being useful consistently enough.

He shines for Bournemouth because teams generally don't sit back against them

I've seen him give teams a torrid time just playing a traditional winger role in tight spaces too tbh.

In general though I think that's always a bit of a delicate balance with that wide forward role in a 433. You need a strong runner who can cover big spaces and ideally someone with enough finesse to beat a man. You don't tend to find those in the same players, so a lot of the time you're compromising on one of them. I personally think Semenyo is one of the best mixes of the two in the league.
 
I've seen him give teams a torrid time just playing a traditional winger role in tight spaces too tbh.

In general though I think that's always a bit of a delicate balance with that wide forward role in a 433. You need a strong runner who can cover big spaces and ideally someone with enough finesse to beat a man. You don't tend to find those in the same players, so a lot of the time you're compromising on one of them. I personally think Semenyo is one of the best mixes of the two in the league.
Agreed.

In the first half, when the spaces weren't as big he still gave Kerkez a tough time. Rolled him at least once.

In the tight spaces, Gakpo might be better to combine and score as he did yesterday. But when the game becomes open and you need an outlet, Semenyo would be a better candidate, as he showed with his 2 goals yesterday too.
 
Yep been a fan for a while was hoping we’d sign him but we’ve put all our eggs in the Wirtz basket for better or worse.
 
I've seen him give teams a torrid time just playing a traditional winger role in tight spaces too tbh.

In general though I think that's always a bit of a delicate balance with that wide forward role in a 433. You need a strong runner who can cover big spaces and ideally someone with enough finesse to beat a man. You don't tend to find those in the same players, so a lot of the time you're compromising on one of them. I personally think Semenyo is one of the best mixes of the two in the league.
He's definitely a good winger, but good enough for us? I've got my doubts, and at 25 he's entered his peak (for a flying tricky winger).

He's better than Bournemouth like
 
Agreed.

In the first half, when the spaces weren't as big he still gave Kerkez a tough time. Rolled him at least once.

In the tight spaces, Gakpo might be better to combine and score as he did yesterday. But when the game becomes open and you need an outlet, Semenyo would be a better candidate, as he showed with his 2 goals yesterday too.

The problem with Gakpo in tight spaces is he's pretty immobile. He's got the touch but not the movement.
 
He's definitely a good winger, but good enough for us? I've got my doubts, and at 25 he's entered his peak (for a flying tricky winger).

He's better than Bournemouth like

Not sure but my hunch is yes. Not gonna pretend it's more than that.

What I would say is I think we're all still getting used to the fact that the PL is so much stronger than all other leagues now. Part of that is that logically some weirdly uninspiring players are probably now some of the best options in the world. Uninspiring not cos they're bad but because they play for weird clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford and we see them every week, warts and all.

A pretty good rule of thumb now might just be that if you're one of the best PL players outside the big clubs, you're also probably better than 95% of foreign options too.
 
The problem with Gakpo in tight spaces is he's pretty immobile. He's got the touch but not the movement.
Yeah, he's not a 1 v 1 guy in the sense of going past a player dribbling. Neither is Salah any more.

But he's good enough to combine, or create a half yard cut in and to shoot.
 
Whats everyone's thoughts on why we didnt persist in going in for Sesko as opposed to chasing Isak for 150 odd mill? Do we think Klopp warned us off him maybe?

I doubt it. Klopp's gone public with some highly complimentary statements about him.

Two possibilities (possibly both at once) IMO. (A) The numbers Edwards and Hughes looked at didn't point to Sesko. (B) We wanted someone with a bit more top flight experience - Ekitike's only a year older but already has stints at PSG and Frankfurt under his belt.
 
I wouldn't even think to buy another fwd. Chiesa is staying, IF we have the funds, I would like a CDM - happily sell Endo and/or CJ to fund it.
 
i would’ve argued against #3 two weeks ago but it seems like slot is adamant about not really playing rio yet

question: salah goes to afcon and bradley is injured who plays right side?

Cheesie
 
Not much time left now. 2 weeks to find a CB, CF and DM.

Squad is being sold short yet again, we have 21 senior players.......3 of them will play about 8 minutes combined this season in Endo, Harvey and Chiesa, another 2 will spend about 83 weeks injured in Gomez and Bradley, and since Kostas is on his way out, we may as well not bother including him. So technically I make that 15 reliable senior players Arne will rotate with.

We've wasted almost 6 weeks chasing Wirtz and Isak & the lanky fucker is still no closer to joining.

& Still no closer to tying up Ibou.
 
1. There’s already evidence he will play Endo and Chiesa more.
2. Wirtz had a full preseason so not sure why you are complaining about him
3. Newcastle are being dickheads. Not us.
4. After yesterday do you still want Konate?
 
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