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peterhague said:
I know this isn't a remotely original thought, but the reaction from fans and social media generally to a bad half season has really made me believe that a lot of people have been quite damaged by the internet/social media etc.

The lack of patience and this apparently driving need for sensational takes - I just don't think you'd have got that 20 years ago. And I see a few others have noticed it as well, specifically in this context. I'm not a big fan of his but Martin Samuel was on the TV on Sunday talking about exactly this - booing at half-time etc. How there's no such thing as just "a bad season" anymore. I think there's a lot of truth to that.

I think Ballbag was on Twitter recently too, sharing the same sentiment. People need to fucking chill out, get off their phones etc. Or at least get off fucking Tiktok.
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It doesn't surprise me from the media and social media, it's been getting progressively worse for ages and is expected. I just don't consume any of it, so I don't care.

Since last season, it's been creeping more and more into SCM. That I do care about. This was our refuge.
 
localny said:
My concern about Slot is really he is disliked by players and rubs them up the wrong way. Kind of like Rafa but maybe not as cold.

I am concerned this will lead to a loss of players and making it harder to hattract others.

And yeah, he likes intensity and possession so why can’t you attack like your predecessor? Why did you not replace Diaz? Why are you so bad on forward transitions?

Oh you won the league? That was nice. What about now?
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Plenty of reports that Slot wanted Diaz to stay/offered a new deal, and I strongly suspect wanted a replacement, was told to use Ngumoha, and has generally refused to do so out of principle. Whether that's right or wrong, we can't hold Slot accountable for all transfer activity. They've stuck him as Head Coach for a reason.
 
localny said:
I totally get that. We do not need to be reactive and that in the social media age, the reactions are over the top and some of the earlier commentary on slot this season was ott

Having said all that we won the league last year and are currently out of the champions league spots. We are losing games. We are drawing games. We’ve only won six games since October. It’s not really a social media over reaction anymore. We also have a manager seems to be struggling to attack, struggling to use a squad and struggling to manage personalities.

Maybe we are about to move past this.

But I really don’t think a sponsored PR exercise is going to change my own view of things. If anything, it shows that they’re clearly worried.
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Again. That wasn't the point of the interview ! Not everything has to be about the playing side of the game ! Whether you consider it a PR exercise or not it was an interesting look inside the club.
 
keniget said:
I couldn't be bothered to watch the video so asked Gemini to summarize it for me. Does this kinda cover it?
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Thanks for sharing this. I hadn't had a chance to watch it (and frankly don't care to watch videos of that length).

All of those points in the video are well and good but many of them don't seem to align with the evidence of our eyes, at least this season.
 
peterhague said:
I know this isn't a remotely original thought, but the reaction from fans and social media generally to a bad half season has really made me believe that a lot of people have been quite damaged by the internet/social media etc.

The lack of patience and this apparently driving need for sensational takes - I just don't think you'd have got that 20 years ago. And I see a few others have noticed it as well, specifically in this context. I'm not a big fan of his but Martin Samuel was on the TV on Sunday talking about exactly this - booing at half-time etc. How there's no such thing as just "a bad season" anymore. I think there's a lot of truth to that.

I think Ballbag was on Twitter recently too, sharing the same sentiment. People need to fucking chill out, get off their phones etc. Or at least get off fucking Tiktok.
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Virg speaks about it in the interview with Gary Neville released today too.

I think the club are very conscious of this issue and the way pundits (especially ex-players) and a small but growing percentage of our fans are affected.

Being a bit more traditional and "knowledgeable" than most clubs, our fans have resisted this longer than others. We're getting to the point now where we're actually at risk of affecting our newer / young / inexperienced / prospective players negatively. We're becoming the cunts we accused the world of being.
 
Mamma Mia said:
Virg speaks about it in the interview with Gary Neville released today too.

I think the club are very conscious of this issue and the way pundits (especially ex-players) and a small but growing percentage of our fans are affected.

Being a bit more traditional and "knowledgeable" than most clubs, our fans have resisted this longer than others. We're getting to the point now where we're actually at risk of affecting our newer / young / inexperienced / prospective players negatively. We're becoming the cunts we accused the world of being.
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Lol i read the second two paragraphs like it was a quote from Virg and got very confused
 
Mamma Mia said:
Being a bit more traditional and "knowledgeable" than most clubs, our fans have resisted this longer than others. We're getting to the point now where we're actually at risk of affecting our newer / young / inexperienced / prospective players negatively. We're becoming the cunts we accused the world of being.
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Maybe this is true, but the name calling and pure hatred directed at Slot (not just on here) does not seem in line with the supposed LFC culture. It may be that we part ways with Slot at some stage (personally I hope he proves everyone wrong), but the disrespect to a manager who brought a PL title to the club in his first season is sickening.
 
Name calling doesn't limit to just Slot though, it's been obvious with certain players who have been here nearly 10yrs through our best years, and certain bias as already previously mentioned. However, I always get great comfort in how Anfield and away crowd treat our players long term though. Agreed, it's a really nasty distateful part of it outside of the reactionary match day threads, especially because it's a conscious choice then.
 
tombrown said:
Maybe this is true, but the name calling and pure hatred directed at Slot (not just on here) does not seem in line with the supposed LFC culture. It may be that we part ways with Slot at some stage (personally I hope he proves everyone wrong), but the disrespect to a manager who brought a PL title to the club in his first season is sickening.
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Careful you’ll get compared to me again, the most damming of all insults.

All this season has shown that even some very intelligent supporters are not immune to being human and going off the fucking deep end and then doubling down on it when called out. I include myself in that but I’ll always prefer to in the positive camp vs the world is caving in camp. That camp for life in general leads to anger, anxiety, depression, and the worst cases suicide. God knows we’ve got enough that in the world. We don’t need more.
 
Dreambeliever said:
Careful you’ll get compared to me again, the most damming of all insults.

All this season has shown that even some very intelligent supporters are not immune to being human and going off the fucking deep end and then doubling down on it when called out. I include myself in that but I’ll always prefer to in the positive camp vs the world is caving in camp. That camp for life in general leads to anger, anxiety, depression, and the worst cases suicide. God knows we’ve got enough that in the world. We don’t need more.
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You’re including yourself amongst ‘very intelligent supporters’?
 
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