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Mo Salah 2025/26 Season

It's a stupid fucking point though. Everyone knows he has ALWAYS been like that. It's been an issue at times because our right flank with him and Trent (and now others) has always been perceived as weak, but the pros outweighed the cons, it's a moot point. It's an issue now because he's not scoring, but the issue isn't that he isn't tracking back, he just isn't justifying his inclusion at the other end of the pitch.

It's like critcising Carragher at the end of his career for not being that good on the ball. We knew that ten years previous.
 

This is what I hate about stats. Sure, if you'd never seen Salah play here, this constitutes information. Like if we were thinking about buying some strange player named Salah then I'd be alarmed by this.

But, if you however, person who has been watching him for years, dont already have a chart like that, going down, in your mental model of mo salah, if you don't intuitively understand how massively he's declined... then mo Salah is the least of your concerns. It's your own cognitive decline you need to be focused on (a difficult, and self-defeating undertaking.)
 
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So you are saying he is covering more ground and is getting faster over last year or so ? This is amazing ** snigger snigger **
 
I'm not from the UK but is this show actually popular? I can't stand the endless banters, together with the shouting, the screaming and the hysterical laughters. The 4 hosts ain't exactly likeable in my books as well...
It's horrible, it's made for youtube shorts and Tik Tok likes and keep certain presenters employed over midweek.
 
You know what really blows my mind? With the amount of in house physical testing and performance data clubs have, you should be able to see physical decline coming before it hits you in the face. We got it badly wrong with Fabinho. Salah too, and to a lesser extent Henderson and Gini. I’d honestly love to know what the thinking was, because there should be a clear, evidence led way of tying physical drop off into contract renewals and pay, rather than reacting after the fall has already happened. We've been guilty about being reactive a bit too much.
 
You know what really blows my mind? With the amount of in house physical testing and performance data clubs have, you should be able to see physical decline coming before it hits you in the face. We got it badly wrong with Fabinho. Salah too, and to a lesser extent Henderson and Gini. I’d honestly love to know what the thinking was, because there should be a clear, evidence led way of tying physical drop off into contract renewals and pay, rather than reacting after the fall has already happened. We've been guilty about being reactive a bit too much.
Just maybe the data nerds abilities had been oversold? Some of celebration to Edwards returning on here was rather strange especially against Klopp's growth in power while they were away. They should and will have a lot more data during training and throughout games about each player, surely that will not say anything different to what these lo-fi stats sites we have publically.
 
You know what really blows my mind? With the amount of in house physical testing and performance data clubs have, you should be able to see physical decline coming before it hits you in the face. We got it badly wrong with Fabinho. Salah too, and to a lesser extent Henderson and Gini. I’d honestly love to know what the thinking was, because there should be a clear, evidence led way of tying physical drop off into contract renewals and pay, rather than reacting after the fall has already happened. We've been guilty about being reactive a bit too much.

I think Salah still will test really well in the performance data overviews. He's probably one of the fittest professional footballers out there.
Its more that the decline of pace and explosiveness in games have been more evident this season. Resulting in fewer goals and just a more poor all around game.
 
I think Salah still will test really well in the performance data overviews. He's probably one of the fittest professional footballers out there.
Its more that the decline of pace and explosiveness in games have been more evident this season. Resulting in fewer goals and just a more poor all around game.

Also his desire to actually use his pace and power.
 
You know what really blows my mind? With the amount of in house physical testing and performance data clubs have, you should be able to see physical decline coming before it hits you in the face. We got it badly wrong with Fabinho. Salah too, and to a lesser extent Henderson and Gini. I’d honestly love to know what the thinking was, because there should be a clear, evidence led way of tying physical drop off into contract renewals and pay, rather than reacting after the fall has already happened. We've been guilty about being reactive a bit too much.

That's not necessarily the way physiology works. The balance between optimal stress and recovery can be a very fine line. You recover and adapt over and over again... Until you don't.

I think Klopp's style of play in particular really pushes the line in terms of what players are capable of. Not surprising to me that most have been burned out shells after departing. (Also, it's clear that he was able to get most players performing above their individual level as part of a well calibrated team.)

Slot was supposed to be capable of better managing stress, recovery and injury risk. But it seems like he's unable to trust his bench sufficiently and runs key players (Gravy last year, Szobo this year) into the ground.
 
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