He can't cover Mo. That's been proven time and time again. No pace, no trickery.
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Has it? When? When were these mythological games where Elliott got a chance on the right wing in a full strength side?
He's better than both Doak and Chiesa there right now that's the point. We can't rely on just Frimpong with the AFCON coming up.
I think it's more likely to be Fringpong
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I can accept that you rate Elliot higher than I do, and I totally get the idea that should be room for a player like him, with his attitude, in our side.
I don't really get the fervor about it though. Elliot did get games on the right, as a sub, and a handful of starts, but not many, because two managers thought that he's probably better at cm or am, than trying to play out wide, and who would argue with them, he needs space to work.
He didn't get more because Salah is there.
He didn't set the world alight when he was there. He also wasn't horrible. He's a short, not particularly fast technical little dude. He's like Lallana, a guy that is good when you're on your way to being really good, but not there yet.
Now maybe he will put it all together, but not for us. The teams in for him so far are about what id expect, which tells it's own tale. He needs to pick the right team, he does indeed need lots of games, but the fact that he isn't getting them here isn't an unanswered question, it's just an answer you don't like to the question.
He hasn't played a lot of games in the absence of Salah, in a strong side, because Salah has more or less always been available, save the mixed bag of games Modo has just posted. I don't particularly think it's his best role, but that's not the point, comments like "he's repeatedly proven this and that" aren't particularly helpful or any less biased.
Ok, fair enough, but he's not really shown anything when he has played in that position, which he has done more than a dozen times for us.
It's not that either, I've seen him play in various positions, enough to know he is not suited to play for us in that role.
He’s not particularly tall or fast or tricky or defensively sound or has that ability to beat a man. That’s enough about Salah. Why can’t Elliott play there?
Does he need a full strength side to prove whether he does or doesn't have pace or trickery?
I doubt either of those statements are true. In fact based on what we've seen of Frimpong and Doak in pre-season I'd say spectacularky wrong. Elliott isn't a winger in any shape or form.
Helpful? Nothing we say here is helpful. It's a forum Mark! Opinions.
You'll note that I didn't say I don't like Elliott. I'd love him to have come good, he's a fellow Red, and we can argue all day about playing time but it's rare that he's shone when given the opportunity.
Fact is my comments are true : he lacks pace and trickery. Are we to deny this and brush it under the carpet? It's why he hasn't been more successful here and not progressed from the early promise shown. There is no way his talents are compatible with being a winger,
And now we have Wirtz.
There is no place for him in the team any more. It's best for all concerned he moves on with our best wishes and thanks.
Depends on Bradley's availability really
We still have Gomez (sometimes). He has been decent at right back on occasion
Yes, he has. He used to be a disaster in that position but has improved a lot when played there more recently.
We don't need Doak, Cheesy or Elliott when we can get around £80m. They are surplus to requirements, if any stay they will only get handful of games, not enough to justify their place at the club. Its a WC all 3 will want games.
Dom, Frim can play RM and RW, the FWD line is attack heavy to cover MO.
Dom, Frim can play RM and RW, the FWD line is attack heavy to cover MO.
That first bit isn't true. West Ham, Tottenham and Villa have all been reported to be taking an interest.
Well if you believe everything you read then sure, but some wannabe fan accounts tweeting for likes isn't interest to me - I'm talking about actual interest to sign from actual sources.
West Ham don't want him, they're trying to sign Fernandes from Southampton.
Spurs don't want him, they're after Eze now Gibbs White's signed a new deal.
Villa don't want him, they're trying to re-sign Asensio.
Well, if you believe everything you read, then sure. To coin a phrase.
I don't but I am inclined to believe there's some truth behind it when credible people are putting it out there. So far there's been no interest for Harvey from any Prem club, which is probably why he's still here and coming off the bench in games.
Name your sources then.
I think that having Wirtz in the side will show us how we should play Elliot.
Edited for accuracy.
