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Post Match UCL wk4 Real Madrid (H) 1-0

Great result, great preformance.. Happy... 5 days to city on Sunday so same team... To say with a outside chance for league then Sunday is a must win
 
Good performance. Great work ethic. 1-0 flatters them fascist hanky wavers.

Not really the time or place to get all sour and bring the energy down, and that's not what I'm trying to do. However, I would like to temper expectations. It was never really this game under the lights on a big European night against a huge name that would prove we had turned the corner. It wasn't even Aston Villa at the weekend. Nor is it City on Sunday. Our Achilles heel this season has been when teams have gone direct with quick transitions that we've looked shaky. The games after City will be the true acid test. I actually think we might actually do okay at The Etihad.

We do well when teams try to go toe to toe and play football against us. We bottle it against the low block, counter attackers, as Arne keeps telling everyone. Show a marked improvement against those sides and I'll be back on board. But last two games have been just what the doctor ordered. Keep it up. That level of commitment is the minimum. Though, I don't think they haven't been 'trying' as such during our bad run. I just think the tactics were hopeless and the players were shellshocked.

On a sidenote, maybe it's because I'm getting older, but I'm not really a fan of the treatment Trent is getting. Yeah he's a little snide and all that, but defacing his mural, calling him a rat, booing him nonstop etc is proper melt behaviour. It's Paddy Pimblett "I'm an uber Scouser. Look how Scouse I am" behaviour.

I understand giving him a bit of stick and all that to put him off his game, as Bellingham said in his post match interview actually. But I think it's going too far. Look at Michael Owen. Look at how's he treated now. That's much more damaging and sobering for Trent. Owen should be an everlasting idol. Instead, he's greeted with a smoggy air of ambivalence. A giant meh. "You weren't all that. We replaced you and you missed out." That approach, I feel, would be a more dignified and ultimately impactful way to handle it all.
I agree that the bigger test is against the low-block and more direct teams. I wonder if our approach will change?

Will we hold Gravy back more? Be less aggressive with our FBs? We certainly need more bodies to win the second balls of the long balls.

It could end up being some boring football, if we decide to be less attacking against the low block, but maybe results will improve.
 
Owen was booed too after he joined Newcastle.
He got the "meh-treatment" after he retired.

So Trent is just following in his footsteps.

Can't find the vid of him returning with Newcastle but here's the Man U one:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/1k3628q/michael_owen_return_to_anfield_as_a_united_player/


Yeah, true to an extent. But it was never as volatile as it is with Trent. When he was warming up he was getting called a rat, his mural getting defaced etc. it's a bit much for me.
 
We played Gravvy-Szobo-Macca against United though… Maybe dropping Kerkez was the magic sauce?
Robbo for Kerkez brings a lot more calmness in build-up play at the back

But the principal change is Ekitike-Szobo being at the center of our 4-man press. Our two best athletes - they should lead the press every game.

Just doesn't work with Isak or Gakpo, who are sub-par in their intensity.

In general, I hope Gakpo is binned as a starter. He's a squad player at best

Isak was a strange signing, as I kept saying over and over. Not sure how he'll be integrated into this team either in the short-term or the long-term
 
I will try to ping both and find out.

Update from Kriztian:

Time flies my friend, and with kids growing up and LIFE happening I just can’t find the time anymore ; say hi to the gang from me
🙏🏼
😊


PS I will drop a “hi” on the site if Im going to Anfield in the new year


Cheers
 
Owen played for Man U.
Personally I think that is far far worse than Trent leaving for Real

Yeah, and yet Trent is getting worse abuse. A lot of it is to do with today's generation and social media etc, but I would've thought the match-going crowd would've reacted better.
 
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