Poll VAR - time to bin it?
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"What's it costing us?".
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All I know is that when I watch a cup game and am told there's no VAR I actually feel relieved. I think it takes more from the game that it gives back. I would keep off-sides and bin the rest.
I was fine with it too until Isak was pulled down in the box.
Shit happens. Half the time, seemingly arbitrarily, VAR won't pull up that call anyway. So what does it matter?
It does matter, it reminds me of this:
At 3:11. The most blatant foul ever, no call. Result, no more FA cup.
Yes, but isn't it even more infuriating when we all know that half the time VAR won't interfere? Some times yes, sometimes no (a coming together). So what's the point? The amount of calls that VAR doesn't interfere with where something looks 'clear and obvious' to most people is off the charts. And then sometimes something much more ambiguous hails a call to the monitor where the ref is pressured into changing decision. It's shite.
VAR's not going anywhere (too much money involved) so here's a question: might totally automated refereeing eventually arrive? If so, good thing or not?
I agree that VAR interferes too much and ruins the flow of the game.
I'm also for limiting its usage, but I do want VAR for challenges in the box.
Isn't that a fault of the officials operating VAR rather than a fault of VAR itself?
I agree it's bullshit
Yeah, but humans will always be fallible, and we could all watch the same incident in super slow-mo and come to completely different decisions about it- the Jota peno against Newcastle being a case in point. So again, it will always be contentious, and I maintain that more is being taken away than given back.
I agree with all of that but I still say that VAR isn't the root of most of the problems, people are.
So I still haven't given up on the hope that VAR can be made good enough that it will enhance rather than take from the game.
The running of VAR should not be conducted by the same incompetent officials that ruin the matches as refs.
It doesn't make sense to think that the can set aside their prejudices and failings once they step inside that booth.
I am not sure what the answer is, but bringing in overseas officials to man VAR and taking it out of the clutches of PYGMOL would make a big difference I am sure for a start.
Get Collina over here and pay him whatever he demands to drain the swamp, which for me would not only include PGMOL but start with them.
Might be a tougher cookie than people think, along the lines of self driving cars. But i think the need for refs in non professional football might also kill any chance of a fully automated system at the top.
The interesting bit would be what it would take away from the game, who’s the scouser in the black? No controversy, nothing to complain about. Might get dull.
Agreed but they'd absolutely need to change the way they look at offsides as well. The neverending looking at milimetres, the closeups to players' toes and sleeves and the weird line drawing are all dreadful
Exactly - a horrible vision of how football will develop, with tactical calls ultimately being driven by a team of nerds in a back office rather than the dugout.
what happens when you get bored or feel a touch of the devilment?
Everyone can agree on an off side, but the nature of football means that most of the rest is open to interpretation. I still don't understand why Van Dijk's challenge that led to his sending off at Newcastle wasn't fair, and no amount of re watching it will change that. Most will completely disagree. Same with half of the hand ball decisions. I just think the stuff VAR gets involved in should be very strictly limited to things that are beyond interpretation. It was over the line. He was off-side. He headbutted someone while the ref wasn't looking. Fuck the rest of it off.
basically formula 1
Maybe we could upload Collina into AI - he could then handle VAR at all matches concurrently.
That will change with the semi automatic offside set up. Which they voted against before the season but now want to have in plave before next season.
The problem with VAR in the PL is that they want to adapt it to some weird version of what it could have been. Not surprising though given its run by idiots.
That doesn't change the Van Dijk sending off though so we are still left with incompetent refs making a hames of big decisions.
For what it's worth I agree that the decisions VAR gets involved in should be solely down to clear and obvious errors but as you stated earlier, that is down to the interpretation of the same incompetent officials manning VAR
Imagine the blueshite conspiracy theories
Yeah, it’s like self-driving cars. BTW if the Refs spontaneously combust on occasion, like Teslas do, that might be actually be not such a bad thing
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