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Looks like it's been a perfect loan move. He's going to be proper boss.
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Toadally. It's pretty daft to on the one hand glory in his progress and then on the other to demand he comes back to play a bit part for us. We should be doing this more with our youngsters, not less. Let him see his time out there until he's got a realistic chance of starting for us.
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Yep, definitely agree, this is exactly what loan moves are for. Build his quality & confidence then bring him back next season/Jan & reap the rewards.
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I'll third this. Blackpool is a good club for us to loan players to, because they do like to keep it on the deck and play a pass and move game. A great season there, and he'll be ready to make a contribution for us.
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Absolutely.
I hope Holloway keeps on checking out our youngsters because his team is the perfect place for the more attacking players to develop.
That's why I have slight reservations about loaning out our talented youngsters to Bolton, a team constantly losing or drawing with a big emphasis on not letting a goal in.
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Very impressive, given its away to a top Championship club.
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[quote author=Woland link=topic=47361.msg1421115#msg1421115 date=1320313060]
Looks like it's been a perfect loan move. He's going to be proper boss.
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Toadally. It's pretty daft to on the one hand glory in his progress and then on the other to demand he comes back to play a bit part for us. We should be doing this more with our youngsters, not less. Let him see his time out there until he's got a realistic chance of starting for us.
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Yep, definitely agree, this is exactly what loan moves are for. Build his quality & confidence then bring him back next season/Jan & reap the rewards.
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I'll third this. Blackpool is a good club for us to loan players to, because they do like to keep it on the deck and play a pass and move game. A great season there, and he'll be ready to make a contribution for us.
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Absolutely.
I hope Holloway keeps on checking out our youngsters because his team is the perfect place for the more attacking players to develop.
That's why I have slight reservations about loaning out our talented youngsters to Bolton, a team constantly losing or drawing with a big emphasis on not letting a goal in.
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Very impressive, given its away to a top Championship club.
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Bad journalism, or is that where he's been played for Blackpool?
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Bad journalism, or is that where he's been played for Blackpool?
Scored Blackpool's 2nd away to Middlesbrough today.
Can't hurt to play him against Swansea and Norwich, he'd do a lot better than Lucas or Adam did at creating chances.
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I'd rather we brought back Aquilani, Jonjo is not ready for regular Liverpool first team football - it is a huge step up from Blackpool.
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That'll never happen, unless we get an italian manager.
I'd rather we brought back Aquilani, Jonjo is not ready for regular Liverpool first team football - it is a huge step up from Blackpool.
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That'll never happen, unless we get an italian manager.
I'm wondering if his future role will be decided based on this loan spell. I.e. having impressed in the role behind the striker, does he continue development there or get 'switched back' to his initial role/position?
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I'm wondering if his future role will be decided based on this loan spell. I.e. having impressed in the role behind the striker, does he continue development there or get 'switched back' to his initial role/position?
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Question is did he ever have an "initial role/position" with us?
Seemed as if he was playing all over the pitch.
He feels comfortable playing behind the striker, I say let him play there.
I'm wondering if his future role will be decided based on this loan spell. I.e. having impressed in the role behind the striker, does he continue development there or get 'switched back' to his initial role/position?
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Question is did he ever have an "initial role/position" with us?
Seemed as if he was playing all over the pitch.
He feels comfortable playing behind the striker, I say let him play there.
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Just to put it in prospective: since Jonjo has left on loan, Liverpool have scored 8 goals, Jonjo has 6. :🙂 >🙁 :'(
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Yep, and if he hadn't gone on loan he wouldn't have started a game or scored a goal. As it is he's going to come back full of confidence and ready to challenge.
Why are you and everyone else judging this loan move as a bad thing?
Just to put it in prospective: since Jonjo has left on loan, Liverpool have scored 8 goals, Jonjo has 6. :🙂 >🙁 :'(
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Yep, and if he hadn't gone on loan he wouldn't have started a game or scored a goal. As it is he's going to come back full of confidence and ready to challenge.
Why are you and everyone else judging this loan move as a bad thing?
Bring him back
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Just to put it in prospective: since Jonjo has left on loan, Liverpool have scored 8 goals, Jonjo has 6. :🙂 >🙁 :'(
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Yep, and if he hadn't gone on loan he wouldn't have started a game or scored a goal. As it is he's going to come back full of confidence and ready to challenge.
Why are you and everyone else judging this loan move as a bad thing?
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Exactly. The only possible negative thing about the loan is the fact he's not playing exactly where we imagined him to play best, but as he's playing in stevies position having two young upcoming players in Shelvey & Henderson vying for that position, one of whom is accustomed to playing there & scoring, makes perfect sense given his injuries anyway.
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Just to put it in prospective: since Jonjo has left on loan, Liverpool have scored 8 goals, Jonjo has 6. :🙂 >🙁 :'(
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Yep, and if he hadn't gone on loan he wouldn't have started a game or scored a goal. As it is he's going to come back full of confidence and ready to challenge.
Why are you and everyone else judging this loan move as a bad thing?
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Exactly. The only possible negative thing about the loan is the fact he's not playing exactly where we imagined him to play best, but as he's playing in stevies position having two young upcoming players in Shelvey & Henderson vying for that position, one of whom is accustomed to playing there & scoring, makes perfect sense given his injuries anyway.
Exclusive: Shelvey wants Blackpool stay
Vital Blackpool understands that loan star Jonjo Shelvey wants to stay at Bloomfield Road for the remainder of the season.
The 19-year-old has been in superb form during his spell in the Championship - attracting the interest of Premier League Wolves.
However, it is our understanding that he is keen to play out the rest of the campaign on the Fylde Coast and has asked Kenny Dalglish to prolong his stay.
'Blackpool are a good team with good players and I have asked [Liverpool] if I can stay here for the season.
'It is not that far from home and I think we could achieve something,' he told website sources at a recent club event.
'I am really enjoying it here, I want to play football. Obviously I want to break into the Liverpool first team, but I think playing at a good club is giving me the best chance of ultimately doing that.'
After a scintillating debut, Jonjo took a couple of games to get into his stride. But once he moved forward from the 'quaterback' role into more of a free-reign player in the front three, Jonjo and Blackpool clicked. It was inevitable that the vultures would begin to circle.
But what does the man himself think of his time at Blackpool? Understandably any Premier league player wants to be playing in Premier league games, but the wise ones recognise that a backward step at a good Championship club can catapult their prospects. And boy have Blackpool shown that in recent times.
He confirmed he is relishing his time at the seaside - particularly in a more favoured forward role. 'I'll be honest. I don't like the defending too much, so playing further forwarded has been better for me' he said, as a smile stretched across his face.
And the youngster is happy to be able to express himself before eventually making the step onto the bigger stage, much like Charlie Adam, who swapped tangerine for red over the summer.
'Absolutely. That's what the manager here wants to do,' he said.
'He [Ian Holloway] wants to play good football and get back up. If I can help in that than that would be brilliant.'
Read more: http://www.blackpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=526505#ixzz1eXS9GD2K
Vital Blackpool understands that loan star Jonjo Shelvey wants to stay at Bloomfield Road for the remainder of the season.
The 19-year-old has been in superb form during his spell in the Championship - attracting the interest of Premier League Wolves.
However, it is our understanding that he is keen to play out the rest of the campaign on the Fylde Coast and has asked Kenny Dalglish to prolong his stay.
'Blackpool are a good team with good players and I have asked [Liverpool] if I can stay here for the season.
'It is not that far from home and I think we could achieve something,' he told website sources at a recent club event.
'I am really enjoying it here, I want to play football. Obviously I want to break into the Liverpool first team, but I think playing at a good club is giving me the best chance of ultimately doing that.'
After a scintillating debut, Jonjo took a couple of games to get into his stride. But once he moved forward from the 'quaterback' role into more of a free-reign player in the front three, Jonjo and Blackpool clicked. It was inevitable that the vultures would begin to circle.
But what does the man himself think of his time at Blackpool? Understandably any Premier league player wants to be playing in Premier league games, but the wise ones recognise that a backward step at a good Championship club can catapult their prospects. And boy have Blackpool shown that in recent times.
He confirmed he is relishing his time at the seaside - particularly in a more favoured forward role. 'I'll be honest. I don't like the defending too much, so playing further forwarded has been better for me' he said, as a smile stretched across his face.
And the youngster is happy to be able to express himself before eventually making the step onto the bigger stage, much like Charlie Adam, who swapped tangerine for red over the summer.
'Absolutely. That's what the manager here wants to do,' he said.
'He [Ian Holloway] wants to play good football and get back up. If I can help in that than that would be brilliant.'
Read more: http://www.blackpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=526505#ixzz1eXS9GD2K
I don't think Shelvey would be great in that position.
Jonjo should stay at Blackpool for his own development. Playing time will boost his confidence and give him essential experience.
Henderson isn't ready or confident enough to start, so its Spearing. We have no idea when Gerrard returns. Aurelio is a stop gap at best having played CM before but is injury prone
Henderson isn't ready or confident enough to start, so its Spearing. We have no idea when Gerrard returns. Aurelio is a stop gap at best having played CM before but is injury prone
Seeing that his initial loan was supposed to end on 31st Dec and we have 7 games in the space of 30 days coming up, even if it hadn't been for Lucas' injury, its still a sensible move. Perhaps the decision took Gerrard's progress into mind too.
What a great loan move this has been. I hope he gets a run now while his confidence is sky high
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