Poll Kelly or Magic?

[Oncy]

I think id play Johnson first. Hes a better footballer.
My ideal starting line up based on what ive seen so far this year and last would be

------------------------------------------Reina----------------------------------------------
Johnson-----------Agger-----------------------------Carragher--------------Enrique
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------Lucas------------Meireles---------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Maxi-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Downing
-----------------------------------------Suarez---------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------Kuyt-----------------------------------------------

Obviously thats with Gerrard being unfit.

 

[peterhague]

[quote author=keniget link=topic=46544.msg1384212#msg1384212 date=1313996802]
I still regard Richards to be a bit brainless and clumsy, but I've not seen much of him at all in the last year and all City fans swear he's improved massively over that period. So I take it he's fulfilling his potential now and if Johnson doesn't get his shit sorted Richards will be lining up for England in Euro2012.
[/quote]

i wouldn't rule out kelly being first choice for liverpool and england by the end of the season - capello has already been making positive noises about the young fellow.

 

[Mystic]

I honestly can't pick between them, they're both great options.

 

[rubans]

[quote author=Mystic link=topic=46544.msg1384318#msg1384318 date=1314007508]
I honestly can't pick between them, they're both great options.
[/quote]
Johnson for me right now but shows the strength of the squad compared to last season when we looked at the bench there was nothing remotely interesting, now we have Suarez and Merieles coming on to make a massive difference.

 

[RolandG]

I like Kelly and he is the future but Magic for me. He may have had some defensive frailties but since he moved to LB, he has improved a great deal wanna see him at RB with Enrique at LB. That should be something to behold

 

[King Binny]

On a sidenote, was quite surprised at the high %.

64% of Kelly’s passes originated or were in Arsenal’s half whilst 46% of Enrique’s passes were in Arsenal’s half.

 

[Glock21]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46544.msg1383675#msg1383675 date=1313926091]
I'm not entirely sure than Johnson is still quicker than Kelly...
[/quote]


Over first 20m - Johnson


Over 60m - Kelly


Over 100m - Johnson

 

[juniormember]

[quote author=The_Rule link=topic=46544.msg1385714#msg1385714 date=1314165447]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46544.msg1383675#msg1383675 date=1313926091]
I'm not entirely sure than Johnson is still quicker than Kelly...
[/quote]


Over first 20m - Johnson


Over 60m - Kelly


Over 100m - Johnson
[/quote]

Hahaha.
What about the first 10m? Is Kelly faster at 50m or does Johnson still have the edge up till the 55m mark?
How intriguing.

 

[singlerider]

The important one is the 50-70, that's the real-life overtaking one isn't it?

 

[King Binny]

FOOTBALLER Martin Kelly’s impressive return to action in Liverpool’s 2-0 victory at Arsenal has caught the eye of England coach Fabio Capello.

The defender, who was born in Whiston and grew up in Newton-le-Willows, returned to the Reds' starting line-up in the Barclays Premier League on Saturday for the first time since February.

Kelly burst on to the Anfield scene last year with a run of tremendous form but he was beset by hamstring problems from February.

However, after undergoing a conditioning and strengthening programme, which has included yoga, the 6ft 3ins full back appears firmly in manager Kenny Dalglish’s plans for the new season.

The England under 21 international’s assured display at the Emirates also impressed Capello, who told Sky Sports: “I see some players (that are) interesting for me, some new players like Kelly the right-back, he is really interesting.

“He is young and he played a good, good game.”

Those comments have led some observers to speculate Kelly, who went to the former St Aelred’s Catholic Technology College in Newton-le-Willows, is under consideration for England’s forthcoming Euro 2011 qualifiers against Bulgaria and Wales.

 

[King Binny]

Defending

Passing

Creating

 

[Modo]

Rumours that he might be in the next England squad.

 

[Fabio]

[quote author=Modo link=topic=46544.msg1407928#msg1407928 date=1317567306]
Rumours that he might be in the next England squad.
[/quote]

He should be. He's great

 

[HC]

Kelly deserves a call up.

 

[the count]

During the commentary for the Spurs Gooners game today the numpty commentator listed five or six "outstanding prospects" for the England right back spot, including Kyle Walker.

Kelly wasn't one of them.

 

[themn]

If Kelly doesn't get to play for England any time soon, I won't cry about it.

Especially as he seems to be rather injury-prone.

 

[Modo]

[quote author=the count link=topic=46544.msg1408034#msg1408034 date=1317576648]
During the commentary for the Spurs Gooners game today the numpty commentator listed five or six "outstanding prospects" for the England right back spot, including Kyle Walker.

Kelly wasn't one of them.
[/quote]
Strange but fair IMO. He does the job but he's just not exciting enough.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

[quote author=themn link=topic=46544.msg1408035#msg1408035 date=1317576785]
If Kelly doesn't get to play for England any time soon, I won't cry about it.

Especially as he seems to be rather injury-prone.
[/quote]

Definitely.

 

[Rosco]

I don't want exciting full backs.

ever.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46544.msg1408040#msg1408040 date=1317577136]
I don't want exciting full backs.

ever.
[/quote]

you say that but it was a fullback who got forwards and pulled the ball back which created the first goal.

 

[spider-Neil]

with regards to kelly and johnson and endland, I hope neither get picked again especially with their dodgy hamstrings

 

[Rosco]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46544.msg1408047#msg1408047 date=1317577236]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46544.msg1408040#msg1408040 date=1317577136]
I don't want exciting full backs.

ever.
[/quote]

you say that but it was a fullback who got forwards and pulled the ball back which created the first goal.
[/quote]

Enrique isn't exciting though.

He's pretty solid and reliable.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

I usually take "exciting" to mean "can't defend".

 

[Rosco]

[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=46544.msg1408056#msg1408056 date=1317577497]
I usually take "exciting" to mean "can't defend".
[/quote]

+1

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46544.msg1408052#msg1408052 date=1317577356]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46544.msg1408047#msg1408047 date=1317577236]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46544.msg1408040#msg1408040 date=1317577136]
I don't want exciting full backs.

ever.
[/quote]

you say that but it was a fullback who got forwards and pulled the ball back which created the first goal.
[/quote]

Enrique isn't exciting though.

He's pretty solid and reliable.
[/quote]

I've seen him for n'castle, very attack minded. he's holding back

 

[Modo]

[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46544.msg1408052#msg1408052 date=1317577356]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46544.msg1408047#msg1408047 date=1317577236]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=46544.msg1408040#msg1408040 date=1317577136]
I don't want exciting full backs.

ever.
[/quote]

you say that but it was a fullback who got forwards and pulled the ball back which created the first goal.
[/quote]

Enrique isn't exciting though.

He's pretty solid and reliable.
[/quote]
Hence Del Bosque not picking him 😉

 

[spider-Neil]

anyway who used the word 'exciting'?
I simply want fullbacks to support the attack, if they aren't going to do that you may as well play 4 centre backs.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Not really, as physically, playing at full back is completely different to being in the centre

 

[Modo]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=46544.msg1408063#msg1408063 date=1317577993]
anyway who used the word 'exciting'?
I want simply want fullbacks to support the attack, if they aren't going to do that you may as well play 4 centre backs.
[/quote]
I used it in a tongue in cheek remark.

What Im basically saying is that I get why they don't rate Kelly. He's an unglamorous hard worker and we'll probably love him like Carra in a couple of years.

 

[SaintGeorge67]

Harsh I think.

He's a top player, or at least he was last season. We'll see if he gets back to it.