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We have had many in recent times. Big name players come with big reputations, often big fees, transfer saga thrashed out, after a flash of brilliance, only then to be found out to be utter garbage, never to be seen again. Then they Swiftley go out on loan or sold..

My 11

-----------------------Kirkland
Konchesky Pellegrino Sakho Moreno
--------------------------Diao-----------------------
---------Aquallani---------Cole-------------
--------------Morientes---------Balotelli
------------------------Carroll


Subs

Carson
Josemi
Adam
Markovic
Gonzalaz
Downing
Jovanovic
Aspas
 
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Palletta didn't have a big fee, a big reputation or a transfer saga. He was a young kid who played 3 games and left, and then went on to become an Italian International. I suggest Sakho, Dossena, Biscan etc. would all be much more appropriate.
 
refugee said:
Palletta didn't have a big fee, a big reputation or a transfer saga. He was a young kid who played 3 games and left, and then went on to become an Italian International. I suggest Sakho, Dossena, Biscan etc. would all be much more appropriate.
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He was conveted as the next Jamie Carragher when we signed him..

Sakho maybe, I dunno. He has been good, even excellent at times. His imminent transfer has nothing to do with his lack of ability, just doesn't get on with Klopp
 
So? I think he was the second most expensive player in club history when we bought the chicken shagging weirdo
 
RedNinja said:
He was conveted as the next Jamie Carragher when we signed him..

Sakho maybe, I dunno. He has been good, even excellent at times. His imminent transfer has nothing to do with his lack of ability, just doesn't get on with Klopp
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He's the 2nd most expensive defender in Liverpool history and we loaned him to Crystal Palace.
 
Kirkland

Dossena - Pellegrino -Lovren - Moreno

Markovic -Aquilani - Allen - Downing

Carrol - Keane

Bench:
Benteke
Sakho
Babbel
Cisse
Diouf


More than 250m pissed away on transfer fees there.
 
RedNinja said:
We have had many in recent times. Big name players come with big reputations, often big fees, transfer saga thrashed out, after a flash of brilliance, only then to be found out to be utter garbage, never to be seen again. Then they Swiftley go out on loan or sold..

My 11

-----------------------Kirkland
Konchesky Pellegrino Sakho Moreno
--------------------------Diao-----------------------
---------Aquallani---------Cole-------------
--------------Morientes---------Balotelli
------------------------Carroll


Subs

Carson
Josemi
Adam
Markovic
Gonzalaz
Downing
Jovanovic
Aspas
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Your team selections don't match your descriptions though. Pellegrino, Aspas, Jovanovic, Konchesky and Josemi, for example, came for low fees or didn't have much of a reputation (or were over the hill in Pellegrino's case) before arriving, nor were their transfers dragged out. They were just very shit. And how the heck did you miss Poulsen, if you're picking an all-time shit list?

So this ended up like some sort of mixed up shit players + disappointing letdowns team.
 
choperman.v01 said:
Your team selections don't match your descriptions though. Pellegrino, Aspas, Jovanovic, Konchesky and Josemi, for example, came for low fees or didn't have much of a reputation (or were over the hill in Pellegrino's case) before arriving, nor were their transfers dragged out. They were just very shit. And how the heck did you miss Poulsen, if you're picking an all-time shit list?

So this ended up like some sort of mixed up shit players + disappointing letdowns team.
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I was about to post that, but couldn't be arsed.

If you're talking expectation/hope vs disappointing reality then it's a more interesting discussion than yet another "All Time Shit XI" and it does then allow the inclusion of players like Kirkland, Morientes, Collymore, Kewell, Aquilani, Babb, Litmanen etc etc, rather than the usual Josemi, Cole, Poulsen, Konchesky, Pellegrino cavalcade of excrement.
 
dantes said:
Far too many people are speaking the names Le Tallec and Litmanen for my liking.
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Why? Litmanen seems to somehow be perceived as a long-lost Liverpool great, who in an alternative universe would have joined the pantheon of legends, if it weren't for the disgraceful treatment meted out to him by evil Uncle Houllier.

It's not really as simple as that. For a start he was a player in obvious decline, losing what pace he had, as well as his place in the side at Barcelona. And then there was a series of injuries not really giving him the chance to ever get a decent run in the side. Injuries which had also plagued him in Spain.

Plus there was also the question of where he should play, or what his best position was (and if that position even existed in Houllier's best Liverpool squad).

We'd just won a treble of trophies without much help from him, and we already had Owen, Fowler and Heskey in the squad.

It's no great scandal, or mystery. If he'd joined us when he was 24 it would have been a different story.
 
manwithnoname said:
Why? Litmanen seems to somehow be perceived as a long-lost Liverpool great, who in an alternative universe would have joined the pantheon of legends, if it weren't for the disgraceful treatment meted out to him by evil Uncle Houllier.

It's not really as simple as that. For a start he was a player in obvious decline, losing what pace he had, as well as his place in the side at Barcelona. And then there was a series of injuries not really giving him the chance to ever get a decent run in the side. Injuries which had also plagued him in Spain.

Plus there was also the question of where he should play, or what his best position was (and if that position even existed in Houllier's best Liverpool squad).

We'd just won a treble of trophies without much help from him, and we already had Owen, Fowler and Heskey in the squad.

It's no great scandal, or mystery. If he'd joined us when he was 24 it would have been a different story.
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Because we were a defence first boring shit show of a team at that time. Every single game you didn't know where the goal was going to be created from, and had to pray that Fowler or Owen did something magical. Then Litmanen played his first game, his creativity was light years beyond anything that had been seen, his touch was immaculate, his passes couldn't not be improved upon had you frozen time and spent a week deliberating the best option. He was a genius regardless of his lack of pace. Then we repaid that genius by treating him like some pensioner who needed a colostomy bag.
 
dantes said:
Because we were a defence first boring shit show of a team at that time. Every single game you didn't know where the goal was going to be created from, and had to pray that Fowler or Owen did something magical. Then Litmanen played his first game, his creativity was light years beyond anything that had been seen, his touch was immaculate, his passes couldn't not be improved upon had you frozen time and spent a week deliberating the best option. He was a genius regardless of his lack of pace. Then we repaid that genius by treating him like some pensioner who needed a colostomy bag.
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I wouldn't disagree that Houllier's Liverpool were quite a rigid team at times, but again, in his first season - when he was almost always injured - he only played a handful if games, and we won loads of trophies.

It's never going to be easy to break into a side that is winning, especially when it's packed with top quality internationals. We came second the season after that, so I'm not sure you could claim Litmanen would have been the difference between that and winning the title if he'd played more games.

And he only managed to play 20 more games in two seasons after we let him go, before Ajax also released him.

He wasn't good enough, or fit enough.
 
That's not what he said.

[article] Liverpool manager Gerard Houllier has warned his men he will take swift action to eradicate what he calls the "cancer" of sulky players. Houllier, speaking a day after Finnish striker Jari Litmanen said he was unhappy at being left on the substitutes' bench, told the club's website today: "The atmosphere is good here. "Provided a player's attitude is right then there is no problem. He will be given a chance. "But if it's not right, then their performance will mirror their attitude. What I don't tolerate is people sulking and people chipping away. "If that happens I can be extremely ruthless and nasty because I am the protector of the team and of the club. "If there is a cancer, it has to be eradicated immediately."

Litmanen, signed by Houllier from Barcelona on a free transfer in January 2001, has made only 19 starts for the club and has been given squad number 37 for the new campaign. The 31-year-old said this week: "Liverpool might have a problem keeping everyone happy at the club if they are not playing regularly. "Houllier is the boss and nobody argues with him. I will not either. I just have to accept my situation even if it makes me miserable at times."

The cancer metaphor is clearly one that Houllier likes. Back in April he said: "I've never spotted any arrogance in my team. If I did see something like that I would get rid of the player; arrogance is a cancer for the team."[/article]
 
Practically every time Litmanen played, we improved. The Litmanen we signed may not have been the player he was in his pomp, but he still had an eye and a touch which made us better each time he wore the shirt.

At the time Litmanen left there was a report doing the rounds that he'd been giving Heskey some pointers at Melwood one day when Houllier, who took personal charge of coaching the strikers, told him to stop, whereupon Litmanen is supposed to have said "Well, somebody needs to do it, 'coz nobody's bothering at the moment". If that's true he'd have been a marked man from then on - you did not talk back to Houllier and survive at LFC. There was also an interview with Litmanen shortly after he left in which he said he didn't know why he'd been let go. From a guy like Litmanen that's code for "Houllier had it in for me".

My old mate Grungefuttock, late of this parish, summed it all up this way at the time: "Either we shouldn't have bought Jari or we should have played him. Good luck to a great player and a fine man who deserved better from us". IMHO Grunge had it spot on.
 
------------------------Kirkland--------------------
------Degen--Pellegrino---Babb----Konchesky----
--------------------------Diao---------------------------
------------Aquilani---------------Cheyrou-------------
--Nunez------------------------------------Kewell---
-------------------------Diouf-----------------------------

Bench:

Ballotelli
Benteke
Carroll
Moreno
Cole
'Speedy' Gonzalez
Markovic
 
Kewell was ultimately a disappointment.

"Speedy" Gonzalez - hyped to fuck at a time where we crying out for some pace and quality out wide and ended up being shit... and worse still, slow.

Cisse - we all thought our new club record signing was going to be the next Henry but instead but yeah, not so much.
 
Meijer
Ferri
Kippe
Vignal
Diomede
Cheyrou
Diouf
Diao
Luzi
Medjani
Pongolle

That's just a few off the top of my head
 
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