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And Brendan would have seizure. Lucas is my pick for player of the year too, as he was last season.
Disclaimer: For the record, I neither post or view RAWK as I've been accused of when defending him here, perhaps they know their football there?
What is this obsession with RAWK about? Not you in particular but from many posters?
Disclaimer: For the record, I neither post or view RAWK as I've been accused of when defending him here, perhaps they know their football there?
What is this obsession with RAWK about? Not you in particular but from many posters?
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=45294.msg1330933#msg1330933 date=1305104901]
And Brendan would have seizure. Lucas is my pick for player of the year too, as he was last season.
Disclaimer: For the record, I neither post or view RAWK as I've been accused of when defending him here, perhaps they know their football there?
What is this obsession with RAWK about? Not you in particular but from many posters?
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It's not so much an obsession as a humorous hobby looking at some of the lunacy that goes on there. Saying that we're no bastion of sanity either. As for Lucas, I think Stevies more or less bang on although if Suarez had been here for a full season it would be a different story. People just hate the fact Lucas is turning into a good player.
And Brendan would have seizure. Lucas is my pick for player of the year too, as he was last season.
Disclaimer: For the record, I neither post or view RAWK as I've been accused of when defending him here, perhaps they know their football there?
What is this obsession with RAWK about? Not you in particular but from many posters?
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It's not so much an obsession as a humorous hobby looking at some of the lunacy that goes on there. Saying that we're no bastion of sanity either. As for Lucas, I think Stevies more or less bang on although if Suarez had been here for a full season it would be a different story. People just hate the fact Lucas is turning into a good player.
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=45294.msg1330933#msg1330933 date=1305104901]
And Brendan would have seizure. Lucas is my pick for player of the year too, as he was last season.
Disclaimer: For the record, I neither post or view RAWK as I've been accused of when defending him here, perhaps they know their football there?
What is this obsession with RAWK about? Not you in particular but from many posters?
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RAWK are a bit 'out there' KK. I've read some outlandish things on there in the past. Whether is was 'Cecil' or Broughton trying to bring down the club from the inside or a random Gerrard vendetta. I've also read about the following subjects;
-Carragher is plotting to get rid of Rafa.
-Carragher is ruining Lucas as a player by refusing to pass to him.
-Lucas is a cross between 'insert best players in the world here'.
They just go way OTT and anyone who dares to give a balanced view is banned or ridiculed and labelled a WUM. Also they are under the impression that if you don't think Lucas is our the bestest player ever then you don't understand the game. Now plenty on here like and rate Lucas including me but I understand he also has some limitations. RAWK also has a habit of deleting posts that don't fit their agenda. Now I could be totally wrong as I rarely frequent there but that is the impression I got.
And Brendan would have seizure. Lucas is my pick for player of the year too, as he was last season.
Disclaimer: For the record, I neither post or view RAWK as I've been accused of when defending him here, perhaps they know their football there?
What is this obsession with RAWK about? Not you in particular but from many posters?
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RAWK are a bit 'out there' KK. I've read some outlandish things on there in the past. Whether is was 'Cecil' or Broughton trying to bring down the club from the inside or a random Gerrard vendetta. I've also read about the following subjects;
-Carragher is plotting to get rid of Rafa.
-Carragher is ruining Lucas as a player by refusing to pass to him.
-Lucas is a cross between 'insert best players in the world here'.
They just go way OTT and anyone who dares to give a balanced view is banned or ridiculed and labelled a WUM. Also they are under the impression that if you don't think Lucas is our the bestest player ever then you don't understand the game. Now plenty on here like and rate Lucas including me but I understand he also has some limitations. RAWK also has a habit of deleting posts that don't fit their agenda. Now I could be totally wrong as I rarely frequent there but that is the impression I got.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45294.msg1330970#msg1330970 date=1305106856]
Actually hc, I.ll do it correctly
1. Lucas
2. Dirk
3. Ming
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You simply couldn't be more wrong fabs ; HOW ON EARTH HAS LUCAS HAD A BETTER SEASON THAN DIRKORAMA?
He didn't even show up until, the return of the King. so yeah, essentially 3 months of Lucas playing to a fairly decent level outweigh Dirks mammoth season, I think not Aurelio
Actually hc, I.ll do it correctly
1. Lucas
2. Dirk
3. Ming
[/quote]
You simply couldn't be more wrong fabs ; HOW ON EARTH HAS LUCAS HAD A BETTER SEASON THAN DIRKORAMA?
He didn't even show up until, the return of the King. so yeah, essentially 3 months of Lucas playing to a fairly decent level outweigh Dirks mammoth season, I think not Aurelio
Its laughable that there are still people on here who cant find it in themselves to give Lucas a place in the top three of the MOM threads. Yet our captain without hesitation makes Lucas our player of the season.
Dirk..
Lucas has been great...
The thing with RAWK was the fact they were jizzing over Lucas when he was playing like shite. Just because he is now playing well doesnt mean they were right. Im delighted for the lad but he deserved all the negativity he received during Rafa's reign.
Lucas has been great...
The thing with RAWK was the fact they were jizzing over Lucas when he was playing like shite. Just because he is now playing well doesnt mean they were right. Im delighted for the lad but he deserved all the negativity he received during Rafa's reign.
by far the worst thing about RAWK is that it's like a fucking police state - any kind of controversial topic gets locked and transfer gossip seems to be banned on some sort of maniacal principle. it's amazing the extent that their posters put up with it - i've seen threads that threaten towards dangerous territory and there'll actually be posts telling people to button it, 'you'll get it locked, quiiieeet!'
i don't know who's worse, the jumped up hitlers running the place or the goofy twats putting up with it. i mean, what the fuck do these people think a 'forum' is?! it's a shame, as well, because there's plenty of good stuff to read on there.
i don't know who's worse, the jumped up hitlers running the place or the goofy twats putting up with it. i mean, what the fuck do these people think a 'forum' is?! it's a shame, as well, because there's plenty of good stuff to read on there.
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=45294.msg1330981#msg1330981 date=1305107451]
Dirk..
Lucas has been great...
The thing with RAWK was the fact they were jizzing over Lucas when he was playing like shite. Just because he is now playing well doesnt mean they were right. Im delighted for the lad but he deserved all the negativity he received during Rafa's reign.
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I think Rafa deserves the negativity Lucas received, not Lucas.
Lucas was clearly played in a position that he wasn't fond of, since the Kings arrival, that's changed or at least his playing style and belief have..
It also doesn't help that for the majority of Luas' liverpool career under Rafa he was playing with either and or Alonso and Mascherano.
Two players who were/are at the very pinacle of their respective roles; it's always going to be difficult to look impressive when your peers are that good. It's the reverse- Darren Fletcher theory
Dirk..
Lucas has been great...
The thing with RAWK was the fact they were jizzing over Lucas when he was playing like shite. Just because he is now playing well doesnt mean they were right. Im delighted for the lad but he deserved all the negativity he received during Rafa's reign.
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I think Rafa deserves the negativity Lucas received, not Lucas.
Lucas was clearly played in a position that he wasn't fond of, since the Kings arrival, that's changed or at least his playing style and belief have..
It also doesn't help that for the majority of Luas' liverpool career under Rafa he was playing with either and or Alonso and Mascherano.
Two players who were/are at the very pinacle of their respective roles; it's always going to be difficult to look impressive when your peers are that good. It's the reverse- Darren Fletcher theory
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45294.msg1330977#msg1330977 date=1305107256]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45294.msg1330970#msg1330970 date=1305106856]
Actually hc, I.ll do it correctly
1. Lucas
2. Dirk
3. Ming
[/quote]
You simply couldn't be more wrong fabs ; HOW ON EARTH HAS LUCAS HAD A BETTER SEASON THAN DIRKORAMA?
He didn't even show up until, the return of the King. so yeah, essentially 3 months of Lucas playing to a fairly decent level outweigh Dirks mammoth season, I think not Aurelio
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I disagree with you there. Kuyt by his own admission said the World Cup took its toll on him and it affected his performances yet Lucas is one of very few players who was half decent during the Hodgson era.
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45294.msg1330970#msg1330970 date=1305106856]
Actually hc, I.ll do it correctly
1. Lucas
2. Dirk
3. Ming
[/quote]
You simply couldn't be more wrong fabs ; HOW ON EARTH HAS LUCAS HAD A BETTER SEASON THAN DIRKORAMA?
He didn't even show up until, the return of the King. so yeah, essentially 3 months of Lucas playing to a fairly decent level outweigh Dirks mammoth season, I think not Aurelio
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I disagree with you there. Kuyt by his own admission said the World Cup took its toll on him and it affected his performances yet Lucas is one of very few players who was half decent during the Hodgson era.
My top 3 would be:
1. Kuyt
2. Suarez
3. Carra
Followed by Lucas, Ming and Pepe.
e. + Gerrard
1. Kuyt
2. Suarez
3. Carra
Followed by Lucas, Ming and Pepe.
e. + Gerrard
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=45294.msg1330986#msg1330986 date=1305107708]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45294.msg1330977#msg1330977 date=1305107256]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45294.msg1330970#msg1330970 date=1305106856]
Actually hc, I.ll do it correctly
1. Lucas
2. Dirk
3. Ming
[/quote]
You simply couldn't be more wrong fabs ; HOW ON EARTH HAS LUCAS HAD A BETTER SEASON THAN DIRKORAMA?
He didn't even show up until, the return of the King. so yeah, essentially 3 months of Lucas playing to a fairly decent level outweigh Dirks mammoth season, I think not Aurelio
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I disagree with you there. Kuyt by his own admission said the World Cup took its toll on him and it affected his performances yet Lucas is one of very few players who was half decent during the Hodgson era.
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Lucas wasn't at the World cup, so what's his excuse for being below par until the start of 2011?
Lucas has had a fantastic 2011 onwards, don't get me wrong, he's bossed United and Chelsea off the park whilst putting in a fair few other decent performances I just think Dirk has done it more so over the course of the season, whilst giving 110% every single time and scoring a fair few big goals; not to mention a hattrick against United!
It's probably not a million miles off a photo finish; dirk does finish first though for me.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45294.msg1330977#msg1330977 date=1305107256]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45294.msg1330970#msg1330970 date=1305106856]
Actually hc, I.ll do it correctly
1. Lucas
2. Dirk
3. Ming
[/quote]
You simply couldn't be more wrong fabs ; HOW ON EARTH HAS LUCAS HAD A BETTER SEASON THAN DIRKORAMA?
He didn't even show up until, the return of the King. so yeah, essentially 3 months of Lucas playing to a fairly decent level outweigh Dirks mammoth season, I think not Aurelio
[/quote]
I disagree with you there. Kuyt by his own admission said the World Cup took its toll on him and it affected his performances yet Lucas is one of very few players who was half decent during the Hodgson era.
[/quote]
Lucas wasn't at the World cup, so what's his excuse for being below par until the start of 2011?
Lucas has had a fantastic 2011 onwards, don't get me wrong, he's bossed United and Chelsea off the park whilst putting in a fair few other decent performances I just think Dirk has done it more so over the course of the season, whilst giving 110% every single time and scoring a fair few big goals; not to mention a hattrick against United!
It's probably not a million miles off a photo finish; dirk does finish first though for me.
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=45294.msg1330981#msg1330981 date=1305107451]
Dirk..
Lucas has been great...
The thing with RAWK was the fact they were jizzing over Lucas when he was playing like shite. Just because he is now playing well doesnt mean they were right. Im delighted for the lad but he deserved all the negativity he received during Rafa's reign.
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Good post.
But Suarez gets my vote. Everybody's improved about a zillion per cent since the King came in, but Suarez has been the heart of it all IMO.
Dirk..
Lucas has been great...
The thing with RAWK was the fact they were jizzing over Lucas when he was playing like shite. Just because he is now playing well doesnt mean they were right. Im delighted for the lad but he deserved all the negativity he received during Rafa's reign.
[/quote]
Good post.
But Suarez gets my vote. Everybody's improved about a zillion per cent since the King came in, but Suarez has been the heart of it all IMO.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=45294.msg1330984#msg1330984 date=1305107611]
by far the worst thing about RAWK is that it's like a fucking police state - any kind of controversial topic gets locked and transfer gossip seems to be banned on some sort of maniacal principle. it's amazing the extent that their posters put up with it - i've seen threads that threaten towards dangerous territory and there'll actually be posts telling people to button it, 'you'll get it locked, quiiieeet!'
i don't know who's worse, the jumped up hitlers running the place or the goofy twats putting up with it. i mean, what the fuck do these people think a 'forum' is?! it's a shame, as well, because there's plenty of good stuff to read on there.
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shhhusssshhhh peter, they'll get you.
by far the worst thing about RAWK is that it's like a fucking police state - any kind of controversial topic gets locked and transfer gossip seems to be banned on some sort of maniacal principle. it's amazing the extent that their posters put up with it - i've seen threads that threaten towards dangerous territory and there'll actually be posts telling people to button it, 'you'll get it locked, quiiieeet!'
i don't know who's worse, the jumped up hitlers running the place or the goofy twats putting up with it. i mean, what the fuck do these people think a 'forum' is?! it's a shame, as well, because there's plenty of good stuff to read on there.
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shhhusssshhhh peter, they'll get you.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45294.msg1330999#msg1330999 date=1305108502]
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=45294.msg1330981#msg1330981 date=1305107451]
Dirk..
Lucas has been great...
The thing with RAWK was the fact they were jizzing over Lucas when he was playing like shite. Just because he is now playing well doesnt mean they were right. Im delighted for the lad but he deserved all the negativity he received during Rafa's reign.
[/quote]
Good post.
But Suarez gets my vote. Everybody's improved about a zillion per cent since the King came in, but Suarez has been the heart of it all IMO.
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I was tempted to give it to Suarez as well but Dirk was always giving his 100% even through the dark months so he just edges it. I really think Carra deserves a mention too as I dread to think how things would have been without him this season.
[quote author=gareth_thomas link=topic=45294.msg1330981#msg1330981 date=1305107451]
Dirk..
Lucas has been great...
The thing with RAWK was the fact they were jizzing over Lucas when he was playing like shite. Just because he is now playing well doesnt mean they were right. Im delighted for the lad but he deserved all the negativity he received during Rafa's reign.
[/quote]
Good post.
But Suarez gets my vote. Everybody's improved about a zillion per cent since the King came in, but Suarez has been the heart of it all IMO.
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I was tempted to give it to Suarez as well but Dirk was always giving his 100% even through the dark months so he just edges it. I really think Carra deserves a mention too as I dread to think how things would have been without him this season.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45294.msg1331000#msg1331000 date=1305108528]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=45294.msg1330984#msg1330984 date=1305107611]
by far the worst thing about RAWK is that it's like a fucking police state - any kind of controversial topic gets locked and transfer gossip seems to be banned on some sort of maniacal principle. it's amazing the extent that their posters put up with it - i've seen threads that threaten towards dangerous territory and there'll actually be posts telling people to button it, 'you'll get it locked, quiiieeet!'
i don't know who's worse, the jumped up hitlers running the place or the goofy twats putting up with it. i mean, what the fuck do these people think a 'forum' is?! it's a shame, as well, because there's plenty of good stuff to read on there.
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shhhusssshhhh peter, they'll get you.
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chill, i've got reams of rafa-lovin' evdence to support me if it goes to trial. only they don't do trials.
fuck.
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=45294.msg1330984#msg1330984 date=1305107611]
by far the worst thing about RAWK is that it's like a fucking police state - any kind of controversial topic gets locked and transfer gossip seems to be banned on some sort of maniacal principle. it's amazing the extent that their posters put up with it - i've seen threads that threaten towards dangerous territory and there'll actually be posts telling people to button it, 'you'll get it locked, quiiieeet!'
i don't know who's worse, the jumped up hitlers running the place or the goofy twats putting up with it. i mean, what the fuck do these people think a 'forum' is?! it's a shame, as well, because there's plenty of good stuff to read on there.
[/quote]
shhhusssshhhh peter, they'll get you.
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chill, i've got reams of rafa-lovin' evdence to support me if it goes to trial. only they don't do trials.
fuck.
I agree with what you're saying though. It's very much agree with us, tow the line or you're banned. Totally negates the point of forum and it's always one of the things that winds me up when we bring in a few principles (we didn't want to call them rules) to stop things descending into chaos and people have a moan. Generally I think is a really open forum here.
It certainly is, and you should ban any fecker who says different.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45294.msg1331012#msg1331012 date=1305110231]
It certainly is, and you should ban any fecker who says different.
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Arf.
It certainly is, and you should ban any fecker who says different.
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Arf.
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45294.msg1330997#msg1330997 date=1305108435]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=45294.msg1330986#msg1330986 date=1305107708]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45294.msg1330977#msg1330977 date=1305107256]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45294.msg1330970#msg1330970 date=1305106856]
Actually hc, I.ll do it correctly
1. Lucas
2. Dirk
3. Ming
[/quote]
You simply couldn't be more wrong fabs ; HOW ON EARTH HAS LUCAS HAD A BETTER SEASON THAN DIRKORAMA?
He didn't even show up until, the return of the King. so yeah, essentially 3 months of Lucas playing to a fairly decent level outweigh Dirks mammoth season, I think not Aurelio
[/quote]
I disagree with you there. Kuyt by his own admission said the World Cup took its toll on him and it affected his performances yet Lucas is one of very few players who was half decent during the Hodgson era.
[/quote]
Lucas wasn't at the World cup, so what's his excuse for being below par until the start of 2011?
Lucas has had a fantastic 2011 onwards, don't get me wrong, he's bossed United and Chelsea off the park whilst putting in a fair few other decent performances I just think Dirk has done it more so over the course of the season, whilst giving 110% every single time and scoring a fair few big goals; not to mention a hattrick against United!
It's probably not a million miles off a photo finish; dirk does finish first though for me.
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I don't agree that Lucas was below par at the start of the season. He was one of the better performers in a poor functioning team. He was one of our best players last season too. Given the stick that he's taken and the way that he's improved on his deficiencies over this period, I'd give to Lucas. For a young p0layer he has a big, big heart and bags of character. He's captain material
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=45294.msg1330986#msg1330986 date=1305107708]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=45294.msg1330977#msg1330977 date=1305107256]
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=45294.msg1330970#msg1330970 date=1305106856]
Actually hc, I.ll do it correctly
1. Lucas
2. Dirk
3. Ming
[/quote]
You simply couldn't be more wrong fabs ; HOW ON EARTH HAS LUCAS HAD A BETTER SEASON THAN DIRKORAMA?
He didn't even show up until, the return of the King. so yeah, essentially 3 months of Lucas playing to a fairly decent level outweigh Dirks mammoth season, I think not Aurelio
[/quote]
I disagree with you there. Kuyt by his own admission said the World Cup took its toll on him and it affected his performances yet Lucas is one of very few players who was half decent during the Hodgson era.
[/quote]
Lucas wasn't at the World cup, so what's his excuse for being below par until the start of 2011?
Lucas has had a fantastic 2011 onwards, don't get me wrong, he's bossed United and Chelsea off the park whilst putting in a fair few other decent performances I just think Dirk has done it more so over the course of the season, whilst giving 110% every single time and scoring a fair few big goals; not to mention a hattrick against United!
It's probably not a million miles off a photo finish; dirk does finish first though for me.
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I don't agree that Lucas was below par at the start of the season. He was one of the better performers in a poor functioning team. He was one of our best players last season too. Given the stick that he's taken and the way that he's improved on his deficiencies over this period, I'd give to Lucas. For a young p0layer he has a big, big heart and bags of character. He's captain material
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=45294.msg1331019#msg1331019 date=1305110767]
I don't agree that Lucas was below par at the start of the season. He was one of the better performers in a poor functioning team. He was one of our best players last season too. Given the stick that he's taken and the way that he's improved on his deficiencies over this period, I'd give to Lucas. For a young p0layer he has a big, big heart and bags of character. He's captain material
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I wouldn't go that far. He did have a poor start to the season but he wasn't alone. What I will give you is the heart and character. He's shown it in spades over the years when others would have give up and especially under the stick he was getting.
Captain material though ? Nah - he's not vocal enough
I don't agree that Lucas was below par at the start of the season. He was one of the better performers in a poor functioning team. He was one of our best players last season too. Given the stick that he's taken and the way that he's improved on his deficiencies over this period, I'd give to Lucas. For a young p0layer he has a big, big heart and bags of character. He's captain material
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I wouldn't go that far. He did have a poor start to the season but he wasn't alone. What I will give you is the heart and character. He's shown it in spades over the years when others would have give up and especially under the stick he was getting.
Captain material though ? Nah - he's not vocal enough
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