Liverpool related transfer speculation

[Markeh]

Yes, I'm assuming Nunez and Diaz go this
summer. The profit on those sales will mean we're OK for FFP for the next three years, then we have a problem when that profit drops out. The problem is probably manageable without Isak and Guehi, more of an issue if we do sign them, particularly Isak. I wouldn't be worried if we just get Guehi.

we win the club world cup in 4 years time so everything will be fine

 

[StevieM]

What do we have with Gomez? A player who is getting on, not better than Virgil, Konate or Guehi, on a fat wedge and only will get chances in cups or dead rubbers. He’s always injured too.

It’s replacing that with someone who can actually play those dead rubbers and cup games.

If your lad was 20 years old, really good at footy and had the choice of going to Liverpool to play 8 games a season (let’s be serious, once we get closer to a final the big boys play) or go somewhere and play 35 games a season you will take the latter.

If it was as simple as have a kid as our option we would’ve kept Quansah yet we all know, and it’s the same with Elliott, they need games and to improve and build physical attributes to ever get good enough for us.

Look, I’m all for signing Guehi and actually playing him, but Slot isn’t going to play a 4 CB regularly.

It’s pretty clear that the best defensive stats come from defenders who play together consistently.

So what do we want from our 4th CB?

I’m surprised we did sell Quansah, to be honest.

 

[MomoWASright]

Look, I’m all for signing Guehi and actually playing him, but Slot isn’t going to play a 4 CB regularly.

It’s pretty clear that the best defensive stats come from defenders who play together consistently.

So what do we want from our 4th CB?

I’m surprised we did sell Quansah, to be honest.

To be available when we need him.

 

[Frogfish]

Look, I’m all for signing Guehi and actually playing him, but Slot isn’t going to play a 4 CB regularly.

It’s pretty clear that the best defensive stats come from defenders who play together consistently.

So what do we want from our 4th CB?

I’m surprised we did sell Quansah, to be honest.

Guehi won't be #4 CB ... he'll be #3 vying with Konate for #2 and subbing in for VvD (since LCB is his primary position) and replacing Konate when he's inevitably injured.

 

[FreshRed]

Yes, I'm assuming Nunez and Diaz go this
summer. The profit on those sales will mean we're OK for FFP for the next three years, then we have a problem when that profit drops out. The problem is probably manageable without Isak and Guehi, more of an issue if we do sign them, particularly Isak. I wouldn't be worried if we just get Guehi.

Won’t we be able to continue with meaningful sales in the next few years. For example, I can see Jones for £60 in a couple of years.

 

[Judge Jules]

I'm not necessarily his biggest fan but I'd want a bit more than 60 quid for him.

 

[Beamrider]

beyond Madrid and Bayern, which club keeps an average loss at €5m? The Arsenal have spent £1bn (during Arteta's reign), their revenue is smaller than ours. We know Man City will cook the books, we will be frugal for the next two windows (sell to buy, and flog youngsters). Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and worst effected Man U all have huge spending logbook. How are they going to meet UEFA regulations?

There's flexibility in UEFA's rules. They tend to go after clubs who take the piss, and make allowances for those who can demonstrate they failed despite best efforts to the contrary (we were let off on this basis early in FSG's ownership). This summer they came down hard on Chelsea, Villa and Lyon, who had all been reckless. I think our spending this summer, with no plan for four years' time, could fall foul of the rules because it looks reckless and without action throws off huge losses in year four (like, £200m +) so it wouldn't be a minor failure.
As for other clubs, Chelsea are already in the shit (see my post in the Football Finance thread a few weeks back), Spurs are fine (because they can add back the depreciation cost on their stadium (about £70m per annum) and don't have much in the way of losses after that - probably most profitable club in the Premiership after adjustments), plus there are other adjustments that can be made (main one being youth spending), and clubs can also get away with a loss of up to €60m if shareholders put equity in (which is probably why United have got away with it so far, plus they're not going to be in Europe for a bit anyway).
By the same measure, even if Arsenal do breach the rules (I think they might), they'll probably get given a bit of leeway because they haven't taken the piss historically plus a chunk of their losses comes from depreciating the Emirates. They've also brought a lot of their out-sourced functions in-house because it improves their Squad Cost Ratio. And again, taking moves to comply sits well with UEFA.

 

[Beamrider]

Won’t we be able to continue with meaningful sales in the next few years. For example, I can see Jones for £60 in a couple of years.

We normally make £30-40m on sales each summer, I'm talking about making an extra £150-200m ON TOP of that.
Realistically, if we sign Isak as well this summer, we may need to sell him or Wirtz in 3 years' time...