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Liverpool related transfer speculation
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Look, I’m all for signing Guehi and actually playing him, but Slot isn’t going to play a 4 CB regularly.
It’s pretty clear that the best defensive stats come from defenders who play together consistently.
So what do we want from our 4th CB?
I’m surprised we did sell Quansah, to be honest.
To be available when we need him.
Guehi won't be #4 CB ... he'll be #3 vying with Konate for #2 and subbing in for VvD (since LCB is his primary position) and replacing Konate when he's inevitably injured.
Won’t we be able to continue with meaningful sales in the next few years. For example, I can see Jones for £60 in a couple of years.
I'm not necessarily his biggest fan but I'd want a bit more than 60 quid for him.
There's flexibility in UEFA's rules. They tend to go after clubs who take the piss, and make allowances for those who can demonstrate they failed despite best efforts to the contrary (we were let off on this basis early in FSG's ownership). This summer they came down hard on Chelsea, Villa and Lyon, who had all been reckless. I think our spending this summer, with no plan for four years' time, could fall foul of the rules because it looks reckless and without action throws off huge losses in year four (like, £200m +) so it wouldn't be a minor failure.
As for other clubs, Chelsea are already in the shit (see my post in the Football Finance thread a few weeks back), Spurs are fine (because they can add back the depreciation cost on their stadium (about £70m per annum) and don't have much in the way of losses after that - probably most profitable club in the Premiership after adjustments), plus there are other adjustments that can be made (main one being youth spending), and clubs can also get away with a loss of up to €60m if shareholders put equity in (which is probably why United have got away with it so far, plus they're not going to be in Europe for a bit anyway).
By the same measure, even if Arsenal do breach the rules (I think they might), they'll probably get given a bit of leeway because they haven't taken the piss historically plus a chunk of their losses comes from depreciating the Emirates. They've also brought a lot of their out-sourced functions in-house because it improves their Squad Cost Ratio. And again, taking moves to comply sits well with UEFA.
We normally make £30-40m on sales each summer, I'm talking about making an extra £150-200m ON TOP of that.
Realistically, if we sign Isak as well this summer, we may need to sell him or Wirtz in 3 years' time...
Our attack is now Salah, Wirtz, Gakpo, Ekitike, Nunez, and Chiesa. If Nunez and Chiesa leave, @Beamrider will we have the space to get another two in attack. Isak plus Fofana?
Diaz will be leaving. If Nunez and Chiesa leave, we should have HG spots. We will also gain one from selling one of Robbo or Tsimi. We should be fine from that angle.
I just repeat what the home grown expert, StevieM. Who himself isn’t home grown.
I can see Slot giving Rio the 6th attacker slot.
If we’re signing Isak I’d prefer us to think next of CBs rather than another attacker…For me Fofana might quickly look like he’s blocking a superior youngster in Rio.
From a purely financial perspective, I'd be opposed to signing Isak. It pushes us to the limits over the next 5 years, huge fee, huge wages.
Fofana was linked to Everton overnight, rumoured fee of £30-35m. I'd be OK with paying that kind of money, but not for a player who Everton think is within their reach, because that means he's probably shite.
I'm assuming Nunez and Chiesa will be gone anyway, so it's not like they're raising money / saving wages to pay for Isak, their sales are already needed to pay for the guys we've already signed, Diaz too for that matter.
With hindsight, if we'd binned off Ekitike (I'm very nervous that he's not going to work out) and signed Isak instead, that would have been do'able financially - still a stretch, but less so. I worry that if we sign Isak now then Ekitike doesn't get the time and space to prove himself and ends up being a very expensive bench-warmer, always living in the shadow of a better player.
But I'm also worried that Ekitike just isn't going to be good enough, particularly if we can't coach out of him his tendency to try to score from far out - I'm sure I saw a shot-map showing a huge volume of shots from outside the box last season, with no goals. I'd hope that's a consequence of playing in a lesser team and not having chances created closer to goal, but if he tries that shit too often in a red shirt then his team mates are going to lose patience with him very quickly.
Not bad, not bad at all.
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