Liverpool related transfer speculation

[bazazaba]

Does withholding Doak and Elliott from sale this season cause us to fall foul of the rules for this and the next 2 seasons?

If not, then could we not extend their contracts and sell them one season later, which should then help provide some relief for the 28/29 season? For the players, it gives them the chance to improve their value and potentially attract a higher level of club/wage than their current suitors, and maybe also a (slim) chance of changing the coach's mind about retaining them.

Assuming the players and their agents are amenable to this. We'll also be betting and hoping they stay fit and do better than last season.

 

[Fabio]

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Classic "monitoring"

 

[Modo]

Ooooh Spurs and Newcastle....shiver me timbers...

 

[Beamrider]

I think they may have been building up the headroom to do this for the last couple of years. Maybe the extra ticket income from expanded Anfield helps with that?

Aren't allowed losses higher if covered by owners equity? Maybe FSG plan to plough in £50m a year instead of spending it on transfers?

You're allowed €60m if covered by equity, but I seem to recall that's a one-off thing, not something you can do year in, year out.
We do have the capacity to do that as the Dynasty money was loaned to the club, so it could easily be converted to equity (without having to actually put any cash in).

 

[Beamrider]

Does withholding Doak and Elliott from sale this season cause us to fall foul of the rules for this and the next 2 seasons?

If not, then could we not extend their contracts and sell them one season later, which should then help provide some relief for the 28/29 season? For the players, it gives them the chance to improve their value and potentially attract a higher level of club/wage than their current suitors, and maybe also a (slim) chance of changing the coach's mind about retaining them.

Assuming the players and their agents are amenable to this. We'll also be betting and hoping they stay fit and do better than last season.

Theoretically yes, but I think Doak would be at peak value this year. Talk of £25m which I think is nuts. The more he plays (or the more he's injured) the less likely we are to get that.
We could hold on to Harvey (and I think he would at least hold his value) but I'd expect US to want him to go out on loan as he's not going to play much if he stays (plus we'd have his wages to cover) and I'd expect HIM to want to leave permanently if he's going to go somewhere else. Again, I think he goes this summer.
But we don't need the profits on those guys this year and if we sell next (calendar) year then it helps with our year 4 FFP issue (but not year 5).

 

[SummerOnions]

Theoretically yes, but I think Doak would be at peak value this year. Talk of £25m which I think is nuts. The more he plays (or the more he's injured) the less likely we are to get that.
We could hold on to Harvey (and I think he would at least hold his value) but I'd expect US to want him to go out on loan as he's not going to play much if he stays (plus we'd have his wages to cover) and I'd expect HIM to want to leave permanently if he's going to go somewhere else. Again, I think he goes this summer.
But we don't need the profits on those guys this year and if we sell next (calendar) year then it helps with our year 4 FFP issue (but not year 5).

Then we could also do the loan with obligation to buy thing that I've seen some clubs do, right?

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

All in all it sounds like we shouldn’t buy Isak this summer. Honestly excited to see what wirtz, kerkez, frimpong, and ekitike bring to us. Unless FSG know that the FFP guys are full of shit (quite possible given the delays in the 115 case) we don’t need that headache. We already have an amazing squad.

 

[Buddha]

Joking aside, what’s the likely future correction to sides selling their women’s team to ostensibly themselves?

Ah…
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[Beamrider]

Then we could also do the loan with obligation to buy thing that I've seen some clubs do, right?

Absolutely.

 

[Woland]

The hospitality season prices have gone up something stupid for next year. Dunno if that even touches the sides but for example, the boxes in the KD have gone up from 95k to 145k

 

[StevieM]

So @Beamrider - financially it makes sense to with refer buying Isak to next year OR defer selling some players for a year so that their sales benefit can be added in further down the track AND then we have to rely on balancing any other or future purchases on additional sales - and that’s if the rules stay as they are?

Would FSG selling the club, given that this influx of players and hopefully success, would likely have the clubs value as high as it’s ever going to be, be a way of also solving the problem?

Not that I think that selling the club would be a great idea, because at the price FSG would want, we’re not going to like the likely buyers.

 

[StevieM]

Also… the solution is for Hughes to pull off an even more godlike move!!!!

We loan Isak for the season with an option/obligation to buy.