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I'm actually getting worried; Lucas has been improving, he's stronger on the ball and he is passing much better now.
BUt he is still a limited midfielder and all these articles arent going to help the next time he has a nightmare, which he will.
I just hope he keeps his head screwed on and continues to improve; and I'm hopeful that he can, because he's shown tremendous attitude over the past few seasons and there is a player there.
BUt he is still a limited midfielder and all these articles arent going to help the next time he has a nightmare, which he will.
I just hope he keeps his head screwed on and continues to improve; and I'm hopeful that he can, because he's shown tremendous attitude over the past few seasons and there is a player there.
Again, why is Lucas the only player that gets video after video made of them doing fairly ordinary things?
It was a solid game from Lucas with a couple errors. Good to see him pushing up the field as Chelsea had more of the ball.
Also, the first part of that video shows just how lazy the pressing has been by chelsea, it looks like an italian league game.
It was a solid game from Lucas with a couple errors. Good to see him pushing up the field as Chelsea had more of the ball.
Also, the first part of that video shows just how lazy the pressing has been by chelsea, it looks like an italian league game.
Let's not start sucking his dick just yet. He's still just as likely to needlessly kick a Wigan player in the box in the dying minutes as we're trying to grind out a win. Again.
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Lucas has steadily been improving, I am not sure how much more he can improve, but I for one really hope he does nail down a place in the team under Kenny. He is gives his all for us every single game
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Lucas is like Mubarak the more the masses dislike him the more he puts a fight to stay.He should have left long before when Rafa left.
Lucas has steadily been improving, I am not sure how much more he can improve, but I for one really hope he does nail down a place in the team under Kenny. He is gives his all for us every single game
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Lucas is like Mubarak the more the masses dislike him the more he puts a fight to stay.He should have left long before when Rafa left.
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Again, why is Lucas the only player that gets video after video made of them doing fairly ordinary things?
It was a solid game from Lucas with a couple errors. Good to see him pushing up the field as Chelsea had more of the ball.
Also, the first part of that video shows just how lazy the pressing has been by chelsea, it looks like an italian league game.
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agree, he is being applauded for doing the basic things well, something that is a minimum for anyone who wears the red shirt.
Again, why is Lucas the only player that gets video after video made of them doing fairly ordinary things?
It was a solid game from Lucas with a couple errors. Good to see him pushing up the field as Chelsea had more of the ball.
Also, the first part of that video shows just how lazy the pressing has been by chelsea, it looks like an italian league game.
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agree, he is being applauded for doing the basic things well, something that is a minimum for anyone who wears the red shirt.
Lucas V Chelsea 06 02 2011
by milankakabaros (besides starting the move that got us the goal, also looked good at 3:11)
by milankakabaros (besides starting the move that got us the goal, also looked good at 3:11)
Hmm, not the most inspiring of "compilations". He just seems to be doing the basics.
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I think, for the most part, this new found wave of Lucas praise is no more than an acceptance of competence.
He has improved, certainly. But he's still no more than a potential squad player to me.
He has improved, certainly. But he's still no more than a potential squad player to me.
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Where did I say he wasn't?
When Lucas is an automatic starter, it's clear the first team needs improving upon.
The same applies to Kuyt and Maxi.
When Lucas is an automatic starter, it's clear the first team needs improving upon.
The same applies to Kuyt and Maxi.
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Now that certain completely blinkered anti-Lucas posters are not around I hope he gets the appreciation he deserves
His desire in the 50/50 tackle is admirable. His passing has improved and his confidence on the ball showing all the time is superb
He deserves to be 1st team and his form will also give kenny a headache when trying to fit in the new players. You cannot say dirk or Lucas deserve to make way for anyone
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What did I miss?
Now that certain completely blinkered anti-Lucas posters are not around I hope he gets the appreciation he deserves
His desire in the 50/50 tackle is admirable. His passing has improved and his confidence on the ball showing all the time is superb
He deserves to be 1st team and his form will also give kenny a headache when trying to fit in the new players. You cannot say dirk or Lucas deserve to make way for anyone
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What did I miss?
Rather than have 'desire' in 50-50 tackles, I'd prefer it if he won 50% of them.
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[quote author=Fox link=topic=44105.msg1280426#msg1280426 date=1297029379]
Now that certain completely blinkered anti-Lucas posters are not around I hope he gets the appreciation he deserves
His desire in the 50/50 tackle is admirable. His passing has improved and his confidence on the ball showing all the time is superb
He deserves to be 1st team and his form will also give kenny a headache when trying to fit in the new players. You cannot say dirk or Lucas deserve to make way for anyone
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What did I miss?
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Given the fact that brendan remains on tlw despite the relentless beatings he's been taking, I'd say he's been banned again.
[quote author=Fox link=topic=44105.msg1280426#msg1280426 date=1297029379]
Now that certain completely blinkered anti-Lucas posters are not around I hope he gets the appreciation he deserves
His desire in the 50/50 tackle is admirable. His passing has improved and his confidence on the ball showing all the time is superb
He deserves to be 1st team and his form will also give kenny a headache when trying to fit in the new players. You cannot say dirk or Lucas deserve to make way for anyone
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What did I miss?
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Given the fact that brendan remains on tlw despite the relentless beatings he's been taking, I'd say he's been banned again.
confidence talk - he will improve further
I have to admit, it please me that people are taking notice of Lucas more positively now. He's not played that much better than he did last year, which is strange. I've always said he's got character in abundance and it's paying off now.
He now needs to score a few goals to make people sit up and take notice. Under Kenny's fluent passing style, it suits his game. Most of his passes are forward now too, He's always the fulcrum of our passing in the middle, he gets more tackles than anyone else in the team and he always makes himself available for a pass. His one touch passing is as good as anyone in the team. He became a real player for me when he started raking long passes out wide.
I think he's there on merit and he's good enough to play in a league chasing side. He can still give away the odd silly free kick in dangerous areas and be shrugged off the ball a little too easily but he's still a young improving player.
He now needs to score a few goals to make people sit up and take notice. Under Kenny's fluent passing style, it suits his game. Most of his passes are forward now too, He's always the fulcrum of our passing in the middle, he gets more tackles than anyone else in the team and he always makes himself available for a pass. His one touch passing is as good as anyone in the team. He became a real player for me when he started raking long passes out wide.
I think he's there on merit and he's good enough to play in a league chasing side. He can still give away the odd silly free kick in dangerous areas and be shrugged off the ball a little too easily but he's still a young improving player.
He still gets overrated on decent performances though. A Gerrard or Meireles 6 would be a Lucas 8.
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He still gets overrated on decent performances though. A Gerrard or Meireles 6 would be a Lucas 8.
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He does his detractors underrate him to ridiculous lengths. It's the nature of the position that he'll get a 6 because its not eye catching and he doesn't score goals, but that will come. Kenny has given him license to burst forward.
He still gets overrated on decent performances though. A Gerrard or Meireles 6 would be a Lucas 8.
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He does his detractors underrate him to ridiculous lengths. It's the nature of the position that he'll get a 6 because its not eye catching and he doesn't score goals, but that will come. Kenny has given him license to burst forward.
I know he's playing better of late , but if he's starting for us at the start of next season i'll be gutted.
He's not really got the dynamism of someone like Mascher or the ability to read the game of somebody like Didi to ever be amazing at breaking down the opposition play, but he can do a job there.
What used to really annoy me though, was that he seemed almost as effective at breaking down our play as he did theirs - whether that was from dallying on the ball for too long, or picking the wrong pass (ie sideways when the momentum was going forward).
He still takes too much time in possession at times, but he's certainly getting better, and he could hold his head high with any player after the game against Chelsea. Perhaps it's a confidence thing? Maybe he's just been given more license to express himself, who knows?
The lad can pick a pass, I remember a game he had, perhaps his first season, maybe against Newcastle (ok, 'remember' might be stretching it) when I hadn't really made my mind up about him, and he threaded this through ball (which I think led to a goal) that was Gerrardesque. Back then, I thought he could make it. In between I've thought he was nothing more than a squaddie at best. If he carries on improving he could still be a decent player for us
What used to really annoy me though, was that he seemed almost as effective at breaking down our play as he did theirs - whether that was from dallying on the ball for too long, or picking the wrong pass (ie sideways when the momentum was going forward).
He still takes too much time in possession at times, but he's certainly getting better, and he could hold his head high with any player after the game against Chelsea. Perhaps it's a confidence thing? Maybe he's just been given more license to express himself, who knows?
The lad can pick a pass, I remember a game he had, perhaps his first season, maybe against Newcastle (ok, 'remember' might be stretching it) when I hadn't really made my mind up about him, and he threaded this through ball (which I think led to a goal) that was Gerrardesque. Back then, I thought he could make it. In between I've thought he was nothing more than a squaddie at best. If he carries on improving he could still be a decent player for us
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