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If you can be even remotely arsed, read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaonism#Arab_identity

I read it and I get what you're saying, I've been there a few times and yes they're technically "Egyptians" but they're as Arab as can be both culturally and linguistically.
Now if someone told me that Moroccans are Arabs I'd totally agree with you. I've been there a few times as well and their culture differs a lot from the "arabic culture" imo.
In the end they're all mixed with Arabs.
The biggest wannabe Arabs are the Sudanese though...fucking wannabe's (my family is half Sudanese).
 
I read it and I get what you're saying, I've been there a few times and yes they're technically "Egyptians" but they're as Arab as can be both culturally and linguistically.
Now if someone told me that Moroccans are Arabs I'd totally agree with you. I've been there a few times as well and their culture differs a lot from the "arabic culture" imo.
In the end they're all mixed with Arabs.
The biggest wannabe Arabs are the Sudanese though...fucking wannabe's (my family is half Sudanese).

Morrocans aren't Arabs?
All the Moroccans I know cannot communicate with Arabs here with ease - too many differences with "middle east" Arabic.
It's a fascinating reality ...
Call a Turk or an Iranian an Arab though and you're in deep shit ... They have no want/reality to be involved with that identity.
 
I always thought countries like Morocco Libya Tunisia Egypt etc were highly populated with Arab people mixed with Muslim french speakers. Mo Salah is an Arab muslim is he not? I’m sure he can communicate fine with the Arab world…..what is the difference?
 
Thanks for posting.

I pay as much attention to the off-field things as to those on the field when I watch one of these videos and a couple of things in particular struck me. One: the other lot were flat as a pancake on the way out before kickoff whereas we were right in the zone. Two: after the final whistle Klopp made a point of giving Bajcetic, who might well have been disappointed not to be selected, an extra-long Klopp hug to make sure he felt included. Those little details count.
I do too JJ - Massively actually. Some of the off pitch body language before and after kick off was fascinating to watch. Just clock the look of steely determination on VVD and Konate (even during the warm up (check out Inside Anfield on Youtube if you haven't seen it) . Hendo going round to each team mate - Particularly Harvey Elliott. They all were just so properly focused. Then in the tunnel - A couple of coursery hugs between international teamates but very brief and then eyes forward and straight out onto the pitch. VVD and Hendo in particular were so in the zone. That just spread out through the entire team. Robertson was in a fighting mood - Check out his little battles with Anthony. No fucking contest. Salah just kept laughing at every attempt of a foul Shaw and Fernandes atte,pted. Calmness and focus personified. It was very cool and very funny and very much made that result an absolute keeper in my own personal memory locker. :)
 
Morrocans aren't Arabs?
All the Moroccans I know cannot communicate with Arabs here with ease - too many differences with "middle east" Arabic.
It's a fascinating reality ...
Call a Turk or an Iranian an Arab though and you're in deep shit ... They have no want/reality to be involved with that identity.
Moroccans see themselves as Moroccans first, it's the upper class that kinda want to be more Arab, I don't know why.
True Moroccans are of Berber heritage as far as I know. Also, their arabic dialect is so difficult to understand it's almost another language.
Oh, Turks and Iranians are really proud of their history and heritage. The last thing they'd want to be called is Arabic. They don't even want to admit that they've loaned a lot of words from the Arabic language.
 
I'll have to do it, then:

PREMATCH

On confidence:

"After so many years i no longer dread anfield. BRING.
IT.
ON."

"Why on earth would you be happy with a draw
houllier.gif
"

On matchups:

"Antony is good at tracking back so we have that going for us."

On Omens!

We haven't won at Anfield in 7 years apparently.

Now there's an omen. Talk about a 7 year itch..

Prescient Complaints:

The score predictor only goes up to 5

Students of History:
Souness can only dream of reaching the heights in football like Casemiro

0-0​

On Shaky Starts:

"Don’t worry Liverpool often start strong but don’t have the energy levels to keep this up for more than 20-30 minutes"

"2nd half will be better. "

"Getting there now, it’s coming"

On Andy Carroll:

"Nunez is such a waste of money. Long may it continue."

"We nearly got Donkeyed then"

On Cakpoo:

"Gakpo is such a dope."

"Dodged a proper bullet with him didn't we..."


1-0​
"Feck from offside to that.
Piss off."

"It's your basic run-of-the-mill variety pass inside full-back that is routinely done at least once by City every game."

"He may have scored but he’s a nothing player!"


"Inevitable. They are just better. Simple as." (followed by pages of righteous indignation to this windup)

"Game over. Shame, we held our own but it's Anfield. We can't win there."

"On the whole we have been the better team."

"Well lose 5-0" (optimistic)

"Clearly back on the PEDs for the special occasion."

"We have been in the position before...hows our bottle."

"I suppose a comeback win is sweeter anyway."

"Ten Hag will sort this. We’ve been behind before to better sides."

2-0​

"What a calamity.That's game over."

"Game raising Cnuts"

"This is why I don't pay for Sky sports look at that spitting cnut . Hope he falls out of his seat onto the asholes below."

"That was the most atrocious shit I have witnessed in years."

"And yet Bruno still carries on playing on the wing."

3-0
"Rancid 3-0"

"Fecking new it."

"Missed the first 4 minutes and were 3-0 down? Haha feck me we shite ourselves at anfield"

"That was a pretty spectacular goal. Absolute twats"

"Humbling."

"Nunez and Gakpo- two of the shittest players in the league score obviously."

"I see that we're being Liverpool's bitch at Anfield as usual."

"It's all good. A drubbing defeat is better then a narrow one." (in complete agreement here)

"It's funny, we laugh at and mock Everton every year for bending over at Anfield but every year we are just as spineless, cowardly and fecking inept there. Embarrassment after embarrassment after embarrassment, year in, year out."

"Rattled by the kop once again."

On demonic fitness:

Too many demons from too many years of collapse not yet completely exercised.


On Blame:

"Nice one Shaw. All over the place. Cost us the match."
"Martinez dribbled like fool"
"Bruno's pass is despicable, it's never on."
"Ddg shit keeping there"
"ETH….. man what the hell is this?"
"Thanks for nothing, Weghorst!"
"Casemiro has been abysmal"

...
Q: "Why is the pitch so wet."
A: "It’s raining."


Hope springs eternal:
"3-3 rashford x2 and garnacho with a 93rd minute equaliser."
"Feel as if we are still in this tbh. But it should be a great learning curve for the squad."



4-0​
"Jeez
4-0
This was from our corner"

"Die."

"That's me out"
"Yep that'll be it for me"
"Not bothering watching us next time we’re here"

"How many lucky bounces on the trot can you get?"
"Salah lucky as feck. hate that twat."

"We're leaving it a bit late if we want to win this."

"They’ve just totally dismantled us. We’ve been so poor and wasteful, and they capitalized pretty much every time."

"It’s just one of those ones. Don’t panic guys."

"Feck off Klopp!"
"I f**King hate Anfield. "

"Time for a full rebuild. Every other game this season has been a false dawn. THIS is the reality. Need to get rid of Rashford, Casemiro and Varane asap. Rebuild around Rice with a new forward thinking manager."

"This is pure and total humiliation."

"He had it spot on for the first 41mins."

"Liverpool didn't win this. Didn't deserve a win let alone 4-0. It's purely united's fault. Frustrating."

"I don’t think this game could have gone any worse."
5-0
"There’s shitting the bed and then there’s whatever the hell this is."

"This is going to derail our season, complete obliteration"

"Comfortably more embarrassing than last season. Astonishingly poor."

"Mentality midgets"

'feck the league. All about the cups."

"Sack Hag, sell Garnacho."

"Embarrassing. This could be the beginning of the end of our season. Spurs and Liverpool are right behind us now."

"I imagine Klopp’s HT team talk must have been: “lads, it’s United”."

"Better to lose 1 game 5-0 than five games 1-0"

"We've just resorted to fouling. This is insane"
6-0
"6-0. Completely destroyed today"

"6 but it doesn’t matter"

"We'd have lost 3-0 just by forfeiting"

"They're the luckiest team ever"

"Salah celebrating as if he scored a Messi solo goal "

"This wasnt the narrative"

"We will never live this down."

"Our biggest ever defeat is 7-0. cmon lads we can do it"

"Bruno is a fecking wanker"

On parenting:

"Fear again. The mind killer. See how Shaw just kind of stood around rather than clearing it authoritatively? That is utterly pathetic. If my 4 year old son had defended like that I'd tell him it was rubbish."
7-0
"This match will go down in history. For at least the next 2 decades there will be clips of this match when we meet the Scouses."

"See, it's a simulation. Everything is going in."

"Who’s the Cnut giggling like a little girl?"

"scouse scum didn't deserve it. Didn't win it. United lost it. "

"Ive never seen anything like this." (I have?)

"Liverpool are back. We just revived them."

"Why did I watch this to the end. I must hate myself."

"Buy the club and never let this happen again."

"This is being beamed all over the world."

"I remember times under Sir Alex when he specifically told players to ease off. Does Firmino really look any better for scoring the 7th goal in a 7-0 win where a team has clearly given up? Not saying it is a great crime, just would have shown a bit of class from Klopp to just lock things down a little."​
 
"This match will go down in history. For at least the next 2 decades there will be clips of this match when we meet the Scouses."
"This is being beamed all over the world."
 
I'll have to do it, then:

PREMATCH

On confidence:

"After so many years i no longer dread anfield. BRING.
IT.
ON."

"Why on earth would you be happy with a draw
houllier.gif
"

On matchups:

"Antony is good at tracking back so we have that going for us."

On Omens!

We haven't won at Anfield in 7 years apparently.

Now there's an omen. Talk about a 7 year itch..

Prescient Complaints:

The score predictor only goes up to 5

Students of History:
Souness can only dream of reaching the heights in football like Casemiro

0-0​

On Shaky Starts:

"Don’t worry Liverpool often start strong but don’t have the energy levels to keep this up for more than 20-30 minutes"

"2nd half will be better. "

"Getting there now, it’s coming"

On Andy Carroll:

"Nunez is such a waste of money. Long may it continue."

"We nearly got Donkeyed then"

On Cakpoo:

"Gakpo is such a dope."

"Dodged a proper bullet with him didn't we..."


1-0​
"Feck from offside to that.
Piss off."

"It's your basic run-of-the-mill variety pass inside full-back that is routinely done at least once by City every game."

"He may have scored but he’s a nothing player!"


"Inevitable. They are just better. Simple as." (followed by pages of righteous indignation to this windup)

"Game over. Shame, we held our own but it's Anfield. We can't win there."

"On the whole we have been the better team."

"Well lose 5-0" (optimistic)

"Clearly back on the PEDs for the special occasion."

"We have been in the position before...hows our bottle."

"I suppose a comeback win is sweeter anyway."

"Ten Hag will sort this. We’ve been behind before to better sides."

2-0​

"What a calamity.That's game over."

"Game raising Cnuts"

"This is why I don't pay for Sky sports look at that spitting cnut . Hope he falls out of his seat onto the asholes below."

"That was the most atrocious shit I have witnessed in years."

"And yet Bruno still carries on playing on the wing."

3-0
"Rancid 3-0"

"Fecking new it."

"Missed the first 4 minutes and were 3-0 down? Haha feck me we shite ourselves at anfield"

"That was a pretty spectacular goal. Absolute twats"

"Humbling."

"Nunez and Gakpo- two of the shittest players in the league score obviously."

"I see that we're being Liverpool's bitch at Anfield as usual."

"It's all good. A drubbing defeat is better then a narrow one." (in complete agreement here)

"It's funny, we laugh at and mock Everton every year for bending over at Anfield but every year we are just as spineless, cowardly and fecking inept there. Embarrassment after embarrassment after embarrassment, year in, year out."

"Rattled by the kop once again."

On demonic fitness:

Too many demons from too many years of collapse not yet completely exercised.


On Blame:

"Nice one Shaw. All over the place. Cost us the match."
"Martinez dribbled like fool"
"Bruno's pass is despicable, it's never on."
"Ddg shit keeping there"
"ETH….. man what the hell is this?"
"Thanks for nothing, Weghorst!"
"Casemiro has been abysmal"

...
Q: "Why is the pitch so wet."
A: "It’s raining."


Hope springs eternal:
"3-3 rashford x2 and garnacho with a 93rd minute equaliser."
"Feel as if we are still in this tbh. But it should be a great learning curve for the squad."



4-0​
"Jeez
4-0
This was from our corner"

"Die."

"That's me out"
"Yep that'll be it for me"
"Not bothering watching us next time we’re here"

"How many lucky bounces on the trot can you get?"
"Salah lucky as feck. hate that twat."

"We're leaving it a bit late if we want to win this."

"They’ve just totally dismantled us. We’ve been so poor and wasteful, and they capitalized pretty much every time."

"It’s just one of those ones. Don’t panic guys."

"Feck off Klopp!"
"I f**King hate Anfield. "

"Time for a full rebuild. Every other game this season has been a false dawn. THIS is the reality. Need to get rid of Rashford, Casemiro and Varane asap. Rebuild around Rice with a new forward thinking manager."

"This is pure and total humiliation."

"He had it spot on for the first 41mins."

"Liverpool didn't win this. Didn't deserve a win let alone 4-0. It's purely united's fault. Frustrating."

"I don’t think this game could have gone any worse."
5-0
"There’s shitting the bed and then there’s whatever the hell this is."

"This is going to derail our season, complete obliteration"

"Comfortably more embarrassing than last season. Astonishingly poor."

"Mentality midgets"

'feck the league. All about the cups."

"Sack Hag, sell Garnacho."

"Embarrassing. This could be the beginning of the end of our season. Spurs and Liverpool are right behind us now."

"I imagine Klopp’s HT team talk must have been: “lads, it’s United”."

"Better to lose 1 game 5-0 than five games 1-0"

"We've just resorted to fouling. This is insane"
6-0
"6-0. Completely destroyed today"

"6 but it doesn’t matter"

"We'd have lost 3-0 just by forfeiting"

"They're the luckiest team ever"

"Salah celebrating as if he scored a Messi solo goal "

"This wasnt the narrative"

"We will never live this down."

"Our biggest ever defeat is 7-0. cmon lads we can do it"

"Bruno is a fecking wanker"

On parenting:

"Fear again. The mind killer. See how Shaw just kind of stood around rather than clearing it authoritatively? That is utterly pathetic. If my 4 year old son had defended like that I'd tell him it was rubbish."
7-0
"This match will go down in history. For at least the next 2 decades there will be clips of this match when we meet the Scouses."

"See, it's a simulation. Everything is going in."

"Who’s the Cnut giggling like a little girl?"

"scouse scum didn't deserve it. Didn't win it. United lost it. "

"Ive never seen anything like this." (I have?)

"Liverpool are back. We just revived them."

"Why did I watch this to the end. I must hate myself."

"Buy the club and never let this happen again."

"This is being beamed all over the world."

"I remember times under Sir Alex when he specifically told players to ease off. Does Firmino really look any better for scoring the 7th goal in a 7-0 win where a team has clearly given up? Not saying it is a great crime, just would have shown a bit of class from Klopp to just lock things down a little."​

Admit you just made it all up. There is no way they could be so clueless at every stage, right? Right?

Kind of mirroring the team’s mentality; overconfident before the match, downing tools at the first sign of trouble.
 
Just watched the Inside Anfield video, and his excuse is clearly bollocks. He even seemed to pause to allow Virgil touch the sign before he touched it himself.
 
Admit you just made it all up. There is no way they could be so clueless at every stage, right? Right?

Kind of mirroring the team’s mentality; overconfident before the match, downing tools at the first sign of trouble.

I typed "illiterate imbittered cunts process disillusionment" and that's what chatgpt came up with.

Crazy stat. We had 8 shots on target Sunday. 7 were goals.

We had many chances other than the goals we scored. For example, Konate and robbos chances were clones of Nunez and gakpos. The fact that they missed wide rather than putting it in the keepers hands doesn't make them less threatening chances.
 
I'll have to do it, then:

PREMATCH

On confidence:

"After so many years i no longer dread anfield. BRING.
IT.
ON."

"Why on earth would you be happy with a draw
houllier.gif
"

On matchups:

"Antony is good at tracking back so we have that going for us."

On Omens!

We haven't won at Anfield in 7 years apparently.

Now there's an omen. Talk about a 7 year itch..

Prescient Complaints:

The score predictor only goes up to 5

Students of History:
Souness can only dream of reaching the heights in football like Casemiro

0-0​

On Shaky Starts:

"Don’t worry Liverpool often start strong but don’t have the energy levels to keep this up for more than 20-30 minutes"

"2nd half will be better. "

"Getting there now, it’s coming"

On Andy Carroll:

"Nunez is such a waste of money. Long may it continue."

"We nearly got Donkeyed then"

On Cakpoo:

"Gakpo is such a dope."

"Dodged a proper bullet with him didn't we..."


1-0​
"Feck from offside to that.
Piss off."

"It's your basic run-of-the-mill variety pass inside full-back that is routinely done at least once by City every game."

"He may have scored but he’s a nothing player!"


"Inevitable. They are just better. Simple as." (followed by pages of righteous indignation to this windup)

"Game over. Shame, we held our own but it's Anfield. We can't win there."

"On the whole we have been the better team."

"Well lose 5-0" (optimistic)

"Clearly back on the PEDs for the special occasion."

"We have been in the position before...hows our bottle."

"I suppose a comeback win is sweeter anyway."

"Ten Hag will sort this. We’ve been behind before to better sides."

2-0​

"What a calamity.That's game over."

"Game raising Cnuts"

"This is why I don't pay for Sky sports look at that spitting cnut . Hope he falls out of his seat onto the asholes below."

"That was the most atrocious shit I have witnessed in years."

"And yet Bruno still carries on playing on the wing."

3-0
"Rancid 3-0"

"Fecking new it."

"Missed the first 4 minutes and were 3-0 down? Haha feck me we shite ourselves at anfield"

"That was a pretty spectacular goal. Absolute twats"

"Humbling."

"Nunez and Gakpo- two of the shittest players in the league score obviously."

"I see that we're being Liverpool's bitch at Anfield as usual."

"It's all good. A drubbing defeat is better then a narrow one." (in complete agreement here)

"It's funny, we laugh at and mock Everton every year for bending over at Anfield but every year we are just as spineless, cowardly and fecking inept there. Embarrassment after embarrassment after embarrassment, year in, year out."

"Rattled by the kop once again."

On demonic fitness:

Too many demons from too many years of collapse not yet completely exercised.


On Blame:

"Nice one Shaw. All over the place. Cost us the match."
"Martinez dribbled like fool"
"Bruno's pass is despicable, it's never on."
"Ddg shit keeping there"
"ETH….. man what the hell is this?"
"Thanks for nothing, Weghorst!"
"Casemiro has been abysmal"

...
Q: "Why is the pitch so wet."
A: "It’s raining."


Hope springs eternal:
"3-3 rashford x2 and garnacho with a 93rd minute equaliser."
"Feel as if we are still in this tbh. But it should be a great learning curve for the squad."



4-0​
"Jeez
4-0
This was from our corner"

"Die."

"That's me out"
"Yep that'll be it for me"
"Not bothering watching us next time we’re here"

"How many lucky bounces on the trot can you get?"
"Salah lucky as feck. hate that twat."

"We're leaving it a bit late if we want to win this."

"They’ve just totally dismantled us. We’ve been so poor and wasteful, and they capitalized pretty much every time."

"It’s just one of those ones. Don’t panic guys."

"Feck off Klopp!"
"I f**King hate Anfield. "

"Time for a full rebuild. Every other game this season has been a false dawn. THIS is the reality. Need to get rid of Rashford, Casemiro and Varane asap. Rebuild around Rice with a new forward thinking manager."

"This is pure and total humiliation."

"He had it spot on for the first 41mins."

"Liverpool didn't win this. Didn't deserve a win let alone 4-0. It's purely united's fault. Frustrating."

"I don’t think this game could have gone any worse."
5-0
"There’s shitting the bed and then there’s whatever the hell this is."

"This is going to derail our season, complete obliteration"

"Comfortably more embarrassing than last season. Astonishingly poor."

"Mentality midgets"

'feck the league. All about the cups."

"Sack Hag, sell Garnacho."

"Embarrassing. This could be the beginning of the end of our season. Spurs and Liverpool are right behind us now."

"I imagine Klopp’s HT team talk must have been: “lads, it’s United”."

"Better to lose 1 game 5-0 than five games 1-0"

"We've just resorted to fouling. This is insane"
6-0
"6-0. Completely destroyed today"

"6 but it doesn’t matter"

"We'd have lost 3-0 just by forfeiting"

"They're the luckiest team ever"

"Salah celebrating as if he scored a Messi solo goal "

"This wasnt the narrative"

"We will never live this down."

"Our biggest ever defeat is 7-0. cmon lads we can do it"

"Bruno is a fecking wanker"

On parenting:

"Fear again. The mind killer. See how Shaw just kind of stood around rather than clearing it authoritatively? That is utterly pathetic. If my 4 year old son had defended like that I'd tell him it was rubbish."
7-0
"This match will go down in history. For at least the next 2 decades there will be clips of this match when we meet the Scouses."

"See, it's a simulation. Everything is going in."

"Who’s the Cnut giggling like a little girl?"

"scouse scum didn't deserve it. Didn't win it. United lost it. "

"Ive never seen anything like this." (I have?)

"Liverpool are back. We just revived them."

"Why did I watch this to the end. I must hate myself."

"Buy the club and never let this happen again."

"This is being beamed all over the world."

"I remember times under Sir Alex when he specifically told players to ease off. Does Firmino really look any better for scoring the 7th goal in a 7-0 win where a team has clearly given up? Not saying it is a great crime, just would have shown a bit of class from Klopp to just lock things down a little."​

If I could give you ten likes, I would. Thank you for doing the Lord's work.
 
I think our CB's running stats must have been off of the charts on Sunday..........Easily an extra km or two each, catching up to celebrate the goals!
 
We had many chances other than the goals we scored. For example, Konate and robbos chances were clones of Nunez and gakpos. The fact that they missed wide rather than putting it in the keepers hands doesn't make them less threatening chances.

Our xG was 2.5 or something including those chances.
 
I typed "illiterate imbittered cunts process disillusionment" and that's what chatgpt came up with.



We had many chances other than the goals we scored. For example, Konate and robbos chances were clones of Nunez and gakpos. The fact that they missed wide rather than putting it in the keepers hands doesn't make them less threatening chances.

Ah it does kinda :)
 
Ah it does kinda :)


I don't think it does. For instance, the only way you score Robertson or Gakpo's chance is committing to the far post. It's a worse miss to have an "on target" shot that is right at the keeper in that instance, than it is to hit it just wide.
 
I don't think it does. For instance, the only way you score Robertson or Gakpo's chance is committing to the far post. It's a worse miss to have an "on target" shot that is right at the keeper in that instance, than it is to hit it just wide.

So probably that stat is more accurate of dominance if shots within 1 foot of the goal are included?
 
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