I'd rather bring Lucas back from retirement.
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Pinnington is very highly rated isn't he? Or I'm I remembering that incorrectly (not that I want to see a 10 stone centre back, it's a genuine question)
Endo will be a makeshift centre back, I mean he hardly gets game time, an he can do the job there.
Bag of Chips midfielder, domestically.. He's better then endo when fit..
Rhys Williams B list Champions league
To allow Chiesa champions league football..
Bag of Chips midfielder, domestically.. He's better then endo when fit..
Rhys Williams B list Champions league
To allow Chiesa champions league football..
Slot put Rhys Williams instead of him on the bench against Southampton, and has on previous occasions picked Nallo ahead of him for CL or pre-season games, so I don't think they're high enough on him at this point. Frankly, I'm not comfortable with any of the U21 CBs, although I do think Pinnington looks the least raw of the three to me (and youngest at 18; Nallo and Lucky are a year older).
Maybe Bajcetic will be ready for some minutes by the time the cup game against Palace comes around in the final week of October. He should be about two months into his return to training by then. Maybe not ready to play 90 minutes, but should be ready to play a half, either as a stand-in CB or a CM while Endo plays the stand-in CB.
Strange one. We were happy to spend a third of a billion on a few new attackers but not an extra five mill or so on a bargain of a decent CB. Makes you wonder if it just wasn’t as simple as that.
Centre backs are different from a lot of positions though. If you have one centre back that is skilful, a brilliant tackler, is the best passer, but they cant handle the physical side (as they are too light, or awaiting a growth spurt etc.) then they are basically useless.
It's possible to rate him higher than Rhys or Nello, but sill choose not to use him.
I have some vague memory of reading he was very highly rated... I could be entirely wrong.
If you're talking about Pinnington then all I know is he was playing well above his age group a couple of years ago and also played for the England youth teams. They're obviously positive signs.
Otoh I don't think I've ever heard him specifically mentioned as being a standout talent. I'm personally always pretty wary of any youngster who's got to 18 and never been around the first team picture. It just doesn't bode well. Nallo, for example, is clearly not good enough but even he's made appearances and played in preseason etc.
How's it clear?
Agreed. And we were offering 35M for a player in the last year of his contract too. But wait, we were the ones haggling...
Why should it be one or the other?
It was their fault they didn't get the money in they clearly wanted. But it was probably our fault we didn't get the defender in we needed.
Endo, Robbo and even Dom could play CB if needed. We’ll be fine.
Had we matched their release clause, Guehi would be ours.
Not if you want to keep winning they can’t.
Are we sure about that? Glassner clearly wanted to keep 'im. Bloody stubborn Austrians 🤣 🤣
If he really wanted to keep him he'd be in his cellar by now!
He wanted to keep him because they didn't have time to get a replacement. Wouldn't have been an issue if we'd moved a month earlier and paid closer to their asking price.
Yes, chances are this is what will happen if we need to.
I doubt we'll have a great defensive line up for the next League Cup game, but I'm sure we can all live with that.
We should obviously be looking at doing something in the January transfer window. I doubt Palace will be keen to sell Guehi, especially if they are still doing okay at that time, as they will have accepted losing him for nothing and he himself will only have to wait a bit longer for a bigger payday. Wouldn't be surprised if we ended up buying or loaning someone else though.
Cheers.
You're right Al. Gomez seemed to pass to their players as much as he passed to ours.
Gomez at CB is a complete liability, has been for 4 years now.
We should've got the message last season when he started there at Newcastle and Spurs, we conceded 6 and he was at fault/partly at fault for about 4 of the goals. Don't even get me started on the Villa and Napoli games where he had to be hauled off at HT.
We should've got the message last season when he started there at Newcastle and Spurs, we conceded 6 and he was at fault/partly at fault for about 4 of the goals. Don't even get me started on the Villa and Napoli games where he had to be hauled off at HT.
And guess who we're playing in the next LC game? Sod's Law.
'Wait a bit longer' is actually a long time (in footballing terms) though - 5 to 5½ months. In which time we'll have won the Quad and he'll have missed out on all of it and history.
Which is why I called him 'Southampton's best creative source' !
True, but very much from the outside looking in he didn't seem overly desperate to join us in the summer. And top players tend to be pretty confident, so I'd imagine he'd think he has years ahead of him to win the big trophies.
I hope I'm wrong, he jumps at the chance of joining us in January and Palace don't stand in his way, but these are just potential problems
