Yes, but I did leave out that we have tricky away games against Man U and Everton too. But those are games we should win
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It will change if we remove his RB defending responsibilities. That is a manager problem, not a player problem.
Saying the title race is over and calling us shit is far from a «dissection».
Its just defeatist.
And what? Install him in a midfield role where he won't have to defend?
Yes we do. Of course we want, more than anything, the PL but we want Klopp to leave with trophies. If it's the PL then fantastic but failing that the EL, LC and maybe the FAC would also be a wonderful send off.
Our away record vs. the traditional Big 6 has never been good. 1 positive is, of such fixtures, there's only Man Utd (a) left this season.
W3 D4 L5 GF16 GA21 GD-5
in 12 games, average 0.9 pts per game.
W3 D4 L5 GF16 GA21 GD-5
in 12 games, average 0.9 pts per game.
People always say this, it's a bit different defending in midfield, to defending at right back. In midfield you can press and defend on the front foot, you can't do that when playing right back, especially when standing on the halfway line while everything bypasses you. He would put in more of a shift than the likes of Gravenberch would and he'd give the ball away a lot less than Elliott or Thiago would.
Our away record is general sucks camel dick.
Luton, Brighton.
Last season it was virtually every team in the bottom half.....Forest, Brentford, Wolves, Bournemouth, Palace, Fulham, Everton, fucking Soton. Not 1 fucking win between them.
Season before our only losses game at Leicester and West Ham. League done.
Luton, Brighton.
Last season it was virtually every team in the bottom half.....Forest, Brentford, Wolves, Bournemouth, Palace, Fulham, Everton, fucking Soton. Not 1 fucking win between them.
Season before our only losses game at Leicester and West Ham. League done.
City getting all their players fit and starting that winning train has me worried though. When we see them infront of us we are playing catch up against a team that never loses this time of year.
As Brizzle says, if we are in a position were we can beat them at Anfield and go top. Well then we got a real chance.
I dont think Arsenal will win. It will be us or City.
As Brizzle says, if we are in a position were we can beat them at Anfield and go top. Well then we got a real chance.
I dont think Arsenal will win. It will be us or City.
We must win every league game til then and then beat them. I think that’s highly unlikely but not impossible.
(again) ... except in 21/22 when they were 14 points clear of us at New Year and we closed the gap to 1 point on the final day. "Always" and "Never" are overused adverbs when describing Man City's second half of the season. "Often" and "Seldom" maybe ...
Yeah the rhetoric is old, over-used and this is a different City team. It's like saying Mercedes always win the F1 World Title because they've been there and done it before, until they didn't.
I genuinely can't think of one time where I hoped they would do anything of use, ever, and then they did it.
So i guess I know what it's like to be a blue.
More chance of West Ham beating Arsenal at home. Everton will lose 4 or 5-0.
Would be epic to win 15 in a row now and win the thing. Unlikely but not impossible.
Impossible now you’ve jinxed us!!!
Bradley for rcm then
Genuinely a better option than grav
Where we need to give Jones some games to rest, if we could get the Grav back who started the home games against Everton, Forest, Toulouse, USG that brief spell where he showed the quality, then I’d like to see him played back in that position.
We talk about LCM and RCM a lot, I personally believe #8s should be able to perform equally as well on both sides but it is strange how the only midfielder that’s played on both sides this season is Grav. You won’t see Jones playing on the right side or Szobo/Harvey on the left side (maybe 1 game where he played LW) which leads me to think Klopp is still very much at the experimental stage with him.
We talk about LCM and RCM a lot, I personally believe #8s should be able to perform equally as well on both sides but it is strange how the only midfielder that’s played on both sides this season is Grav. You won’t see Jones playing on the right side or Szobo/Harvey on the left side (maybe 1 game where he played LW) which leads me to think Klopp is still very much at the experimental stage with him.
2nd best away record in the league
Home table
| | GP | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts |
1 | Liverpool | 11 | 9 | 2 | 0 | 30 | 9 | +21 | 29 |
2 | Arsenal | 12 | 9 | 2 | 1 | 30 | 11 | +19 | 29 |
3 | Aston Villa | 11 | 9 | 1 | 1 | 30 | 11 | +19 | 28 |
4 | Newcastle Utd | 12 | 8 | 1 | 3 | 29 | 14 | +15 | 25 |
5 | Manchester City | 10 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 27 | 10 | +17 | 24 |
6 | Tottenham | 11 | 8 | 0 | 3 | 23 | 15 | +8 | 24 |
7 | Brighton | 12 | 6 | 5 | 1 | 26 | 15 | +11 | 23 |
8 | Manchester Utd | 12 | 7 | 1 | 4 | 18 | 18 | 0 | 22 |
9 | Fulham | 11 | 6 | 1 | 4 | 19 | 12 | +7 | 19 |
10 | West Ham Utd | 11 | 5 | 4 | 2 | 18 | 11 | +7 | 19 |
11 | Chelsea | 12 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 20 | 18 | +2 | 18 |
12 | Wolverhampton | 11 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 19 | 18 | +1 | 18 |
13 | Brentford | 12 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 21 | 23 | -2 | 15 |
14 | Bournemouth | 11 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 12 | 17 | -5 | 13 |
15 | Everton | 12 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 13 | 14 | -1 | 12 |
16 | Nottm Forest | 11 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 15 | 17 | -2 | 12 |
17 | Crystal Palace | 11 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 14 | 16 | -2 | 12 |
18 | Luton Town | 11 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 17 | 17 | 0 | 11 |
19 | Sheffield Utd | 12 | 2 | 2 | 8 | 12 | 31 | -19 | 8 |
20 | Burnley | 12 | 1 | 2 | 9 | 13 | 27 | -14 | 5 |
Away table
| | GP | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts |
1 | Manchester City | 12 | 8 | 1 | 3 | 27 | 15 | +12 | 25 |
2 | Liverpool | 12 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 22 | 13 | +9 | 22 |
3 | Tottenham | 12 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 26 | 20 | +6 | 20 |
4 | Arsenal | 11 | 6 | 2 | 3 | 17 | 11 | +6 | 20 |
5 | Aston Villa | 12 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 19 | 19 | 0 | 18 |
6 | Everton | 11 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 13 | 16 | -3 | 17 |
7 | West Ham Utd | 12 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 18 | 25 | -7 | 17 |
8 | Manchester Utd | 11 | 5 | 1 | 5 | 13 | 14 | -1 | 16 |
9 | Wolverhampton | 12 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 18 | 19 | -1 | 14 |
10 | Bournemouth | 11 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 18 | 24 | -6 | 14 |
11 | Chelsea | 11 | 4 | 1 | 6 | 18 | 21 | -3 | 13 |
12 | Brighton | 11 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 16 | 23 | -7 | 12 |
13 | Crystal Palace | 12 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 12 | 24 | -12 | 12 |
14 | Luton Town | 11 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 15 | 25 | -10 | 9 |
15 | Nottm Forest | 12 | 2 | 3 | 7 | 13 | 24 | -11 | 9 |
16 | Newcastle Utd | 11 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 19 | 23 | -4 | 8 |
17 | Burnley | 11 | 2 | 2 | 7 | 11 | 20 | -9 | 8 |
18 | Brentford | 10 | 2 | 1 | 7 | 11 | 16 | -5 | 7 |
19 | Fulham | 12 | 1 | 4 | 7 | 11 | 26 | -15 | 7 |
20 | Sheffield Utd | 11 | 0 | 2 | 9 | 7 | 28 | -21 | 2 |
It's why I said in general, taking no note of any other team a -7 point swing advantage with a game more for this season is still a pretty stark difference.
