They aren't self-entitled, they just aren't that great, and they have a manager who doesn't have a fucking clue. None at all. And most of them will know that, because most of them have had genuinely top class managers.
World Cup of the Damned
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I know it is dangerous making judgments based on World Cup games. With that caveat, based on yesterday's game would prefer focusing on Adams and Musah than spending 100-150 million on Bellingham.
Neville was actually up in arms at Trent not playing.
Just along for the ride. Southgate selected Alexander Arnold simply to avoid answering questions about him
Seems so. I mean what's the point if he never plans to use him
The press and media are having to tread carefully here after going completely overboard after the victory over Iran.
I wasn’t particularly impressed with neither, especially Musah seemed to quiet petulant and intent on giving away silly fouls at times.
Isn't he 17 yrs old? I may be wrong - I'm on a packed metro and can't be arsed searching! If he is then that's no different to any other 17 yr old
I believe He is 19, Adams is 23 I think and Bellingham is 19 too.
We need midfielders who can join us and contribute immediately and with already another 19yr old Elliot who at times can be a passenger, I don’t think we can afford another one.
England will luck their way to the semis then get beaten.
Southgate will then play Trent in the meaningless 3rd/4th playoff & injure him.
Its in the fucking stars
England actually established some control after Henderson was introduced (to much chagrin in blogosphere, by the way.) He calmed everyone down and actually tried to stick up some attacks.
I only saw the last 15 live as was at indoor cricket but every time I heard Neville even when Trent was previously in top form, he always seemed to caveat his with a list of reasons why he can’t play for England as if England can’t find a place for a player like Trent.
Nah that isn't his current stance. He couldn't believe that Southgate continued with Trippier over 'world class' Trent and that he didn't even sub him on. Says France would be starting him.
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You're talking about assists, I talk about defending.
Read properly first, then start to hyperventilate.
This is what happens, England are billed as potential champions after cruiseing into the world cup because they've beaten teams like San Marino and Andorra. "There are no easy games in international football anymore" err, you just played against a bunch of postmen and plumbers while you're on 200k a week, there are easy games. Then when they play against someone decent they get spanked.
Come on lads, TAA us a defensive liability. He's half arsed, and causes us to lose big games. It's his lack of defensive nous that gifted RM that CL winner
Terrific going forward, amazing passer, and yes, the attacking dimension is why he's letting in so many goals but I don't see Tsimikas or JR being so porous on the other side.
Overrated these days and good decision by Southgate in his current form
Terrific going forward, amazing passer, and yes, the attacking dimension is why he's letting in so many goals but I don't see Tsimikas or JR being so porous on the other side.
Overrated these days and good decision by Southgate in his current form
Fair point.
But then i look at Grealish, Sterling and chums...Nah not buying it. Self-entitled and overhyped top top top top top intergalactic players.
This world cup's nearly as boring as the one in South Africa.
You mean like beating Denmark, Germany and drawing with Italy at the Euros?
But Robertson has been at times too.
Causes us to lose big games? There's 10 other players who were on the pitch when we lost those big games. He has always been defensively suspect and has been ten fold worse this season but how many big hames has he helped us win down to his contribution too? It's a bit unfair to focus on a negative part of Trent's game when ignoring his positive contributions. So far his career stats at 245 games is 15 goals and 62 assists. None of those big games then?
Klopp likes a certain kind of Full back to play a certain kind of way, to tear down a young lad who was build purposely for our system and a local one at that just seems rather counter productive.
You are wrong. There are times when you desperately need a goal and having players who can create one with a piece of brilliance, proven over and over, is the difference between top teams and the also-rans. Knowing when to use those players and when to gamble is key to international management, Southgate seems to be pulling his head in, likely because he is very conservative and in this game was happy enough with a point, knowing beating Wales wins the group.
This squad probably has the least self entitled lot of players I have probably seen for England. I don't think they are anymore then so called football fans who feel entitled to year after year of success and get on back of young players who seem to be struggling for point scoring rather than hope they can work through it and get back to their best,
Magic. They've got to one major final since 1966.
Nah. Any world cup where Japan and Saudi come from behind to beat Germany and Argentine 2-1 is a good world cup. Just the Africans letting us down a bit so far.
The Arabs making the Polish look ordinary. Loving it.
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