Trent hasn’t put in a 300k a week performance all season.
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Trent hasn’t put in a 300k a week performance all season.
Our new RB. 18, 5'11 and looks way better than Trent. Perfect understudy to Conor
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I07SoetpH48
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I07SoetpH48
Bradders was so unlucky with that shot yesterday. That goes in 9 times out of 10. If it does go in we're all salivating, and lording him as our next hero.
Bring spanish Steve back, he can cover DCM also. We've got gomez too. Save the budget for a CF and possibly a left back.
Bring spanish Steve back, he can cover DCM also. We've got gomez too. Save the budget for a CF and possibly a left back.
Good question, only going on what others have said here.
Turn him into the Spanish Stevie G and give him 8 games at right back. Bradders can play the rest unless he’s dead.
3 games, according to transfermarkt. Which is admittedly not a lot.
Its £300k a week which isn't super high considering Kimmich is on £375k and Rooney was on that over 15 years ago, but with Trent, his output is decreasing. I am not sure why he runs like he weighs 25 stones. There's no urgency in his tracking back especially when its his fault.
He is a luxury player at best now not worth the £80m over 5 years thats being quoted
Its a lot of money for a RB, don't give a fuck about Kimmich - another overrated player that would probably fail over here anyway. Personally we should do what they did in the olden days - just go to South America or Spain and get an up and coming RB that does the basics right - which is defend and run back when he has to.
In the olden days...... Tsk, this post makes me feel old. When talking about Spanish fullbacks at LFC, we're still talking about the modern era aren't we? Give or take 20 years.
Yes.
He played RB in a couple of games in the Europa League last season.
Hes played games at DM, but most games for us he’s played as more of an 8.
He started as a CB, but don’t think he’s played there other than youth team.
Tbh, i cant remember how well he did his defensive duties as a DM for us, but he really got us ticking in much the same way Gravy does when receiving the ball and moving forward.
Send him back up to Scotland for the rest of the season - Neil Critchley is managing Hearts, he’d probably have use for him.
Either that or get him playing for the U21s regularly.
Reckon he’s been done by injuries unfortunately.
Not too long ago - but in reality if you look at the fullbacks across many sides in the PL - they are usually youth products that eventually make it - its a simple job of all the positions in the team in terms of the tasks need to be performed and usually a clearly defined area where a LB/RB operates. That is my favoured position on this - I would rather try out Owen Beck at LB first before we even consider buying someone, and at some point if there are youth players for the RB - I would also try out one of our kids in that area as well to support Bradley if we get rid of Trent this January. If someone can find the stats - but I think the LB/RB roles are the least area of investment for any team in the PL.
I think the position of full back at LFC is evolving. Under peak-period Klopp, we would play 3 grafters in midfield (typically Hendo, Fabs and Gini) and rely on the forwards and the full-backs to do the creative work.
We now have more creative players in the middle - only Endo really fits the old-style Klopp model, so there is less emphasis on the full-backs to create. To me that means we don't need to spend huge money on keeping Trent, whose strength is creativity, and we also won't need to spend top-dollar on a replacement / cover as we won't be paying the premium that comes with a more creative player.
I like Bradley a lot, I would want us to play him a lot in the second half of the season whether Trent stays or not, but he has been prone to injuries. But he can save us a lot in transfer fees because he's solid defensively and not far off Trent in attack, albeit his strength is on the overlap rather than dictating play from deep.
If we lose Trent then we will likely be stronger defensively, but will lose the odd goal that came from one of his probing passes from the deep. But we will also probably channel more of our play through the middle which puts more pressure on Mac, Szob and Jones. I can live with that.
So my take on all of this would be:
1. Keep Trent until the end of the season. We don't need the disruption of trying to bring in a replacement
2. Play Bradley more to bed him in as a first-team regular, but not so as to risk injury.
3. New first-choice LB asap - Robbo to cover in Milner fashion, Kostas to move on. The disruption of bringing in a replacement here is out-weighed by the need to address the weakness in the position - Robbo can't play multiple games and Kostas breaks down too often.
We now have more creative players in the middle - only Endo really fits the old-style Klopp model, so there is less emphasis on the full-backs to create. To me that means we don't need to spend huge money on keeping Trent, whose strength is creativity, and we also won't need to spend top-dollar on a replacement / cover as we won't be paying the premium that comes with a more creative player.
I like Bradley a lot, I would want us to play him a lot in the second half of the season whether Trent stays or not, but he has been prone to injuries. But he can save us a lot in transfer fees because he's solid defensively and not far off Trent in attack, albeit his strength is on the overlap rather than dictating play from deep.
If we lose Trent then we will likely be stronger defensively, but will lose the odd goal that came from one of his probing passes from the deep. But we will also probably channel more of our play through the middle which puts more pressure on Mac, Szob and Jones. I can live with that.
So my take on all of this would be:
1. Keep Trent until the end of the season. We don't need the disruption of trying to bring in a replacement
2. Play Bradley more to bed him in as a first-team regular, but not so as to risk injury.
3. New first-choice LB asap - Robbo to cover in Milner fashion, Kostas to move on. The disruption of bringing in a replacement here is out-weighed by the need to address the weakness in the position - Robbo can't play multiple games and Kostas breaks down too often.
I agree with almost all of this, but what I do there is more disruption by him hanging around?
If you also factor in that Slot probably wants another all round midfielder, then yeah, that probably eases the burden even more so.
I'm surprised Slot didn't try Trent in midfield though, if the theory is correct that he wanted a more creative midfield and a more solid defense.
Isn't Trent a disruption anyways? If Trent stays he needs to change his attitude. He is a defender, so needs to defend and Slot trying to save his ass from media flack by throwing Lex and Grav under the bus, which does nothing for squad moral.
If Slot wants to work with Trent he either needs to get in Trents head he has to defend. Poor Konate and VVD, our fullbacks force them to work much harder then they should, it will impact them as we progress resulting in fatigue or injury.
Trent is a luxury player and while he shows disinterest in defending he will be a liability as a RB and a injury risk to Konate and VVD
Yeah, I do wonder about that too, but I think if they resolve the contract position soon (including if he signs a pre-contract with Madrid) then it's manageable. But we can't have the media circus of it dragging out for the rest of the season. I can't bear poor Arne having to answer the same question in every single interview. Same goes for Virgil and Mo.
Having a better defensive RB would allow Gravy & Szob/Jones to also be more attacking which comes with additional benefits. I think a pivot to having defensive options on either side is important. All of our goals are coming from full back areas, and we don't currently look close to finding a solution to that.
Trent lacks the awareness and work rate of a modern midfielder.
I always thought that his future would be in midfield, but I really can't imagine seeing Trent doing the job Macca does for instances or Xabi who had a similar passing range.
Someone said he could be a lazy Beckham which is spot on. Not someone who could play for a Slot machine though.
