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UK General Election 24/25

Granted. But even Truss is extremely likely to get reelected in her constituency (I assume she is standing again, I haven't checked). I mean, she's essentially a national laughing stock now, but even these kind of polls now give her a fairly healthy majority.

Exactly why, I can't explain. I don't live in an area that is historically really solidly Tory or really solidly Labour. My guess is though that just as there are people who will never ever vote Tory, there are also many people who have never voted Labour and never would (and if Blair didn't change their mind, I doubt Starmer would).

Also, there is often something about high profile MPs that gives them a few more percentage points. Again, I don't totally get this, and it doesn't always work that way, but it seems to be the case.

True… but every now and then you get a Portillo moment - and that was when they won - can’t remember which big names lost their seats in ‘97, I’m sure there were a few.

Hasn’t there also been an issue with some boundary changes potentially not helping some big names?
 
True… but every now and then you get a Portillo moment - and that was when they won - can’t remember which big names lost their seats in ‘97, I’m sure there were a few.

Hasn’t there also been an issue with some boundary changes potentially not helping some big names?

Yes, that's true. You do get big names losing, and there definitely will be this time too. Jeremy Hunt, for example, could go.

But it's usually down to small-ish majorities or regional trends.

Portillo is famous not only because he had a decent majority but also because he would definitely have become leader if he had stayed. But his seat was in London, so was always under threat.

What gets overlooked from 1997 was that the likes of Hague (in Sunak’s current seat), Clarke, Heseltine and Major all got returned quite safely.

Boundary changes are an issue, yes. Not sure how they impact the big names though. I wouldn't have thought that the real Tory heartlands would be hugely impacted by them though because obviously the boundaries will only take a few Tory wards and replace them with different Tory wards.
 
On the discussion of Returning MPs etc.
There are 60 odd Tory MPs who have said they'll stand down next election.
I'd imagine there are many who will be retiring, moving on etc but I'm sure many have pre-empted the fall and jumped ship
 
On the discussion of Returning MPs etc.
There are 60 odd Tory MPs who have said they'll stand down next election.
I'd imagine there are many who will be retiring, moving on etc but I'm sure many have pre-empted the fall and jumped ship

Not sure how it compare to other elections. I don't think the overall number is massively higher, but the proportion that are Tories is probably higher.

Looking at the list, some are old anyway, some have been around a while, have decent pensions and probably don't really fancy opposition (many will never have known it), and others have hardly been there any time, know they will lose and want to spend the time getting a new job rather than futile campaigning.

There are probably also a couple who have stood down from their marginal seats but are still hoping to bag a safe seat between now and the election.
 
Raab will end up with a cosy little BBC2 series about military history or farming as part of his psychopath rehabilitation programme.

I reckon he'll be on SAS Who Dares Wins like Hancock
 
My constituency is a solid, safe Liberal Democrat one (Bath). The tories won it in 2015 but then lost it under the strong and stable leadership of Ms May.

Last election LD got 54.5% of the vote (Tories 30%, Lab 12%). Boundaries have changed which include areas that voted solidly tory but even then shouldn't be an issue.
 
My constituency is a reasonably safe Liberal Democrat one, Bath. The tories won it in 2015 but then lost it under the strong and stable leadership of Ms May

I realise this is off-topic, but Bath must be a lovely place to live.

To go back on topic (almost), that result in 2015 must be the best example of how a vote can badly backfire. Presumably people abandoned the Lib Dems in protest to them going into coalition with the Tories, but in doing so, they ended up with a Tory MP!
 
I realise this is off-topic, but Bath must be a lovely place to live.

To go back on topic (almost), that result in 2015 must be the best example of how a vote can badly backfire. Presumably people abandoned the Lib Dems in protest to them going into coalition with the Tories, but in doing so, they ended up with a Tory MP!
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Interesting that an MP has admitted to being part of a honey trap event, as the details were printed in politico. Wonder how many are already compromised, across Europe and the states. People have known this has been going on for years. Epstein was obviously at it but it somehow got scrubbed over. Pretty obvious that this one that got away is just more evidence that the Russians and Israelis control many in our govts.
 
Interesting that an MP has admitted to being part of a honey trap event, as the details were printed in politico. Wonder how many are already compromised, across Europe and the states. People have known this has been going on for years. Epstein was obviously at it but it somehow got scrubbed over. Pretty obvious that this one that got away is just more evidence that the Russians and Israelis control many in our govts.

Do you have a link to the story?

Epstein could have been working for many folk - be it those you mentioned, or the Yanks themselves, Chinese, Saudis, Qataris etc ... We'll never know who, and I'm assuming worldview will dictate where we think the truth lies.
 
True… but every now and then you get a Portillo moment - and that was when they won - can’t remember which big names lost their seats in ‘97, I’m sure there were a few.
"Prominent Tory MPs and Cabinet ministers that lost their seats in the 1997 election included Michael Portillo, Malcolm Rifkind, Edwina Currie, David Mellor, Neil Hamilton and Norman Lamont."
 
Interesting that an MP has admitted to being part of a honey trap event, as the details were printed in politico. Wonder how many are already compromised, across Europe and the states. People have known this has been going on for years. Epstein was obviously at it but it somehow got scrubbed over. Pretty obvious that this one that got away is just more evidence that the Russians and Israelis control many in our govts.


Former MPs and Former PMs are traveling the world meeting either known Far right activists or shilling for Israel.

I hope this next elections bins off a load of these free loaders but they'll just be replaced with another load of similar types
 
Politics in this country needs a factory reset. Talk to kids and they think this is how you run a country, bollocks, all they've ever known is Cameron, Osborne and Johnson; politics of corruption, deception, theft and lies.
I half agree with you right-wingers, Starmer will be no different; probably a softer face for the same shite.
The Country lost it's chance for real change with Corbyn. Those old enough will remember the same scare tactics working with Kinnock, and we got more of the same shite then.
Clearly, Labour are going to walk the next election. When they do, I hope they have new, people-based policies to expend because the ones they have now are extensions of the same garbage that are killing the country.
We need nationalisation of services, we need wealth taxes, we need to close tax loopholes, we need an NHS re-think, we need proper regulation of banks, we need accountability and investment over profit.
If Labour don't do that, they'll be out in a term to some new yahoo Tory the press will bankroll.
Personally, I will be voting Labour to ensure they get in BUT my vote after that will be going Green. I don't trust Labour either but nothing to same extent as to the Tory cunts.
 
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Murdoch has finally done it. Not only did he reduce the thought process of the average citizen down to those of s*n readers, he has now brought the politicians with them.

Old Brian Clough was right all those years ago.
 

Talking about Murdoch and the 'free press'.
Interesting piece on the Jewish Chronicle, the link with the Govt appt director of the BBC, unknown funders of a newspaper whose editors are now essentially political commentators.

The JC have had a number of hit pieces on various people who have disagreed with the Israeli assault on Gaza.
 
Galloway has said Monty Panesar, former England bowler, will be a candidate for his party in Southall in coming election.

Almost as mental as the guy with a bin on his head.
This election year both US and here will be mental
 
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All of Galloway's candidates will lose miserably, if they even make it to polling day.

He'll probably lose as well.
 
Always read about how challenging it is in Europe to bring together coalitions and parties to form govt cos there are so many. Seems it'll be an issue for UK as we move forward with the smaller parties taking on a few more seats possibly.
Greens taking away from Lab, Reform away from tories etc
 
Unlikely. Its FFP here. Total nonsense system.
There's no chance with FPTP. Reform are polling at 11% but so were UKIP pre-Brexit and that only translated to 1 seat out of 650.
Not that I give a shit about Reform not getting seats, but FPTP is complete bollocks.
 
In the last few months we've had legal battles and historical compensation discussions, going into the billions for
Post office Horizon scandal
The blood transfusion cover up
Waspi women.

Historical mistreatment of particular groups of people or just random u lucky public.
 
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